Many of the delegates who stood up for the substitute platform were attracted by nice words about liberty but didn't hear or understand most of what was in the text. Austrian economics? Many had no clue about that. Audit the Fed? How many of our legislative candidates are going to be able to speak to that?
And did they know when they made it our official party policy to limit congress critters to 12 years, they were adopting a policy that says to Olympia and Susan, we can't support you if you choose to run again?
It was entertaining though.
Cool stuff, eh?
MaineMom, I would suggest that if you don't know about Austrian economics you check out mises.org...........
To everyone else,
Don't assume that people did not know what they voted for......The overwhelming majority of Republicans supported this platform so if you are not supportive of it you are in that minority and should not be a sore loser. Time to move on, support our platform and elect some Republicans....
Claiming to support THAT platform will not help elect Republicans.
Once you start talking about one world government, you have gone off into wack job territory.
And what does this mean?
"Eliminate the Department of Education and restore schools to local control as specified in the constitution."
Are we talking about the federal level? If so, I am fine with eliminating the Department of Education but the federal constitution says nothing about local control of schools.
At the state level, the Maine Constitution calls for local FUNDING of schools but gives control to the Legislature:
Section 1. Legislature shall require towns to support public schools; duty of Legislature. A general diffusion of the advantages of education being essential to the preservation of the rights and liberties of the people; to promote this important object, the Legislature are authorized, and it shall be their duty to require, the several towns to make suitable provision, at their own expense, for the support and maintenance of public schools; and it shall further be their duty to encourage and suitably endow, from time to time, as the circumstances of the people may authorize, all academies, colleges and seminaries of learning within the State; provided, that no donation, grant or endowment shall at any time be made by the Legislature to any literary institution now established, or which may hereafter be established, unless, at the time of making such endowment, the Legislature of the State shall have the right to grant any further powers to alter, limit or restrain any of the powers vested in any such literary institution, as shall be judged necessary to promote the best interests thereof.
I don't think its nuts.......What about the EU? Where is that heading? Saying it can't happen is not very realistic, anything can happen.
Baby steps eventually lead to something. 100 years ago who would have though that the EU would be what it is.
Rep Thibedeau and I were standing by the wall when the vote was taken. We crouched so as not to be thought in favor. Alas...
Isn't part of the new platform something about "reading the bill before voting?" That's funny.
It is what it is......maybe if the platform committee met more than twice we could have come up with something better......we didn't, what we have is better then what we had.
Larry: Is anyone calling for the U.S. to join the EU?
I agree with you that this mess is a result of poor leadership and a poor process.
What was adopted is idiotic and extreme. See my post above on the education plank. Whoever wrote it is ignorant of the Constitution.
It does, but the process in place did not allow for that. It would have been nice to have the 30 minute recess to read it but the majority did not want that.....
Not a sore loser at all - I thought it was entertaining and I am tickled it happened, though I voted against it.
I majored in ecnomics. I know about Austrian economics and Mises, Larry. I guess I should not assume others do not.
But does it belong in the Maine GOP platform? Are state house candidates going to be given training in it so they can speak to it when asked?
Who said the unscripted never occurs in party politics?
Question: why was leadership unable to get mass copies made of the amendments yesterday and passed out by 9 am today?
No, but 100 years ago who would have thought that the EU would exist.....I use it as an example that things happen and that eventually having a one world government is a possibility. I'm not saying that people are pursuing it today but this is a possibility.
The platform suggests people are pursuing it.
By the way, aren't there more independent sovereign nations today than at any time in world history?
Don't need to "audit the Fed." The Fed is technically insolvent.
They just added 1.25 trillion worth of mortgage backed securities to their balance sheet. Let's say that 25% of the MBS's will be in default. (That's low, IMHO) That's a little over 300 billion of losses.
Think the Fed will be able to withstand that hit?
I don't know...there were probably a lot more sovereign nations when we had to walk everywhere but I don't know. I do see your point though. I'm not saying its going to happen, only that it is possible.
They will just inflate us out of it.......
Youtube of platform vote..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdgUe97d86c
There were 16 copies on the floor, one for each county chair. for the 2200 delegates to take 30 minutes each to read the 16 documents would have taken a really long time. 66,000 minutes is 110 manhours.
I'm just curious (and since states decide, it is of consequence):
Are you opposed to capital punishment, i.e. state sponsored execution? If you are not opposed, why not?
There where 100 copies printed by someone in knox county. I'm not even sure if the party printed any. You are right they should have printed everyone a copy and had then in the chairs at 9 AM.......
"If most Republicans only care about limited government when there's a Democrat in power, then I guess that'll give me some small consolation when President Obama is sworn in." - Corvus 1/2/2008
Can someone explain this to me:
Individual and corporate expression of faith while conducting public and government business is not an expression of governmental establishment.
I'm on Rockland's Comprehensive Planning Commission - does this mean that if someone wants to call all of us in prayer at the start of our meeting that we would have to let them?
Does this mean that the Maine GOP is in favor of net neutrality:
We recognize the importance of the Internet to our economy. We, therefore, support an internet free from government taxation and unreasonable regulation in order to promote innovation, economic growth, investment, job creation and opportunity.
If so, I welcome that, and I will help to make that position known.
This sounds sort of, you know, "socialist": "we believe that the proper role of government is to help provide for those who can not help themselves."
From the platform:
We believe in the sanctity of life.
Does this mean that the Maine GOP opposes the death penalty?
Is there a link to the "Taxpayer Protection Pledge"? Just curious what it actually says. I'm sure that all the candidates are too.
Are not these two planks in conflict with each other?
Reform the regulations and the regulatory process that have a negative impact on private enterprise;
Ensure that regulations recognize the value of Maine’s outdoor heritage and promote responsible stewardship of the environment which is based on sound science;
How do you think French speakers in Maine view this plank:
We believe that English should be the official language of the State of Maine
Is it really a burden to provide forms and other state publications in French in areas where there are many Francophones? Are they not Mainers too? Wouldn't it be better to encourage more children in Maine learn to speak French?
You may have set the record for most posts in a row........