I'm choosing to think of the platform this way:
If you want your government to do even MORE of telling you what you must do and can't do, then don't vote Republican.
If you want your government to start doing LESS of telling you what you must do and can't do, then please vote Republican.
Wow, Uncle Jacque, that is a whole plantation of nuts. Hayes Gahagan must have been part of the conspiracy and just sacrificed his amendment to throw off suspicion. They HAD to take that one first because it would replace the entire draft that the platform committee approved. The other amendments could never be adopted if that amendment passed so there was zero point in taking any other amendment before it.
A few links to more media coverage of the platform:
"The Democratic strategy I'm sure was going to attack Republicans on social issues and "right-wing" ideology"
Man, I hope so. I want them to campaign on a promise to redefine marriage!
Solitary Path: I need to come to the defense of my friend Hayes Gahagan. I don't know whether he was involved with the alternative platform or not. But I do know that over the last year and a half, he has worked very hard to keep people working constructively within the party structure and has been very supportive of Charlie Webster. I know that some nasty intra-party fights have been avoided due to Hayes' actions. Though I suspect Hayes and I have a number of disagreements on issues, from my dealings with him on party matters, I have found him to be positive and sensible. He listens and tries to keep people working together.
"I'm going to look up the 1854 Republican platform (if they even had one back then) and see if it is more like the earlier Socialist - friendly GOP versions or the "bombastic" declaration passed Saturday."
How about one from 1856? (note the "social issues")
This Convention of Delegates, assembled in pursuance of a call addressed to the people of the United States, without regard to past political differences or divisions, who are opposed to the repeal of the Missouri Compromise; to the policy of the present Administration; to the extension Slavery into Free Territory; in favor of the admission of Kansas as a Free State; of restoring the action of the Federal Government to the principles of Washington and Jefferson; and for the purpose of presenting candidates for the offices of President and Vice-President, do
Resolved: That the maintenance of the principles promulgated in the Declaration of Independence, and embodied in the Federal Constitution are essential to the preservation of our Republican institutions, and that the Federal Constitution, the rights of the States, and the union of the States, must and shall be preserved.
Resolved: That, with our Republican fathers, we hold it to be a self-evident truth, that all men are endowed with the inalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and that the primary object and ulterior design of our Federal Government were to secure these rights to all persons under its exclusive jurisdiction; that, as our Republican fathers, when they had abolished Slavery in all our National Territory, ordained that no person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law, it becomes our duty to maintain this provision of the Constitution against all attempts to violate it for the purpose of establishing Slavery in the Territories of the United States by positive legislation, prohibiting its existence or extension therein. That we deny the authority of Congress, of a Territorial Legislation, of any individual, or association of individuals, to give legal existence to Slavery in any Territory of the United States, while the present Constitution shall be maintained.
Resolved: That the Constitution confers upon Congress sovereign powers over the Territories of the United States for their government; and that in the exercise of this power, it is both the right and the imperative duty of Congress to prohibit in the Territories those twin relics of barbarism — Polygamy, and Slavery.
Resolved: That while the Constitution of the United States was ordained and established by the people, in order to "form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty," and contain ample provision for the protection of the life, liberty, and property of every citizen, the dearest Constitutional rights of the people of Kansas have been fraudulently and violently taken from them.
Their Territory has been invaded by an armed force;
Spurious and pretended legislative, judicial, and executive officers have been set over them, by whose usurped authority, sustained by the military power of the government, tyrannical and unconstitutional laws have been enacted and enforced;
The right of the people to keep and bear aims has been infringed.
Test oaths of an extraordinary and entangling nature have been imposed as a condition of exercising the right of suffrage and holding office.
The right of an accused person to a speedy and public trial by an impartial jury has been denied;
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, has been violated;
They have been deprived of life, liberty, and property without due process of law;
That the freedom of speech and of the press has been abridged;
The right to choose their representatives has been made of no effect;
Murders, robberies, and arsons have been instigated and encouraged, and the offenders have been allowed to go unpunished;
That all these things have been done with the knowledge, sanction, and procurement of the present National Administration; and that for this high crime against the Constitution, the Union, and humanity, we arraign that Administration, the President, his advisers, agents, supporters, apologists, and accessories, either before or after the fact, before the country and before the world; and that it is our fixed purpose to bring the actual perpetrators of these atrocious outrages and their accomplices to a sure and condign punishment thereafter.
Resolved, That Kansas should be immediately admitted as a state of this Union, with her present Free Constitution, as at once the most effectual way of securing to her citizens the enjoyment of the rights and privileges to which they are entitled, and of ending the civil strife now raging in her territory.
Resolved, That the highwayman's plea, that might makes right," embodied in the Ostend Circular, was in every respect unworthy of American diplomacy, and would bring shame and dishonor upon any Government or people that gave it their sanction.
Resolved, That a railroad to the Pacific Ocean by the most central and practicable route is imperatively demanded by the interests of the whole country, and that the Federal Government ought to render immediate and efficient aid in its construction, and as an auxiliary thereto, to the immediate construction of an emigrant road on the line of the railroad.
Resolved, That appropriations by Congress for the improvement of rivers and harbors, of a national character, required for the accommodation and security of our existing commerce, are authorized by the Constitution, and justified by the obligation of the Government to protect the lives and property of its citizens.
Resolved, That we invite the affiliation and cooperation of the men of all parties, however differing from us in other respects, in support of the principles herein declared; and believing that the spirit of our institutions as well as the Constitution of our country, guarantees liberty of conscience and equality of rights among citizens, we oppose all legislation impairing their security.
"If you want your government to do even MORE of telling you what you must do and can't do, then don't vote Republican.If you want your government to start doing LESS of telling you what you must do and can't do, then please vote Republican."
I like it! Melt the platform down and you define its meaning to the voter.
MIke Travers is right on the mark, again. Read his words well.
Dan are you now a Rino;)
No, I think I am part of the party elite. Or a Country Club Republican. Me and Charlie Webster.
I may be considered that as well.
But if we let you in, how elite can we be? ;-)
Here's an excerpt from the Republican Party Platform of 1860:
"6. That the people justly view with alarm the reckless extravagance which pervades every department of the Federal Government; that a return to rigid economy and accountability is indispensable to arrest the systematic plunder of the public treasury by favored partisans; while the recent startling developments of frauds and corruptions at the Federal metropolis, show that an entire change of administration is imperatively demanded.
Mercy me! How bombastic is that??!!
You are absolutely right!!!!! Anyone can be a party insider if they volunteer, help candidates get elected and show up to meetings.......
But if you do that, how can you blame [unnamed] others for things you don't like about the party?
What follows is part of Teddy Roosevelt's "We Stand at Armageddon" speech at the 1912 Republican convention:
I wish you to realize deep in your hearts that you are not merely facing a crisis in the history of a party. You are facing a crisis in the history of a nation and what you do will have an appreciable effect throughout the world at large. Here in America we the people have a continent on which to work out our destiny, and our faith is great that our men and women are fit to face the mighty days. Nowhere else in all the world is there such a chance for the triumph on a gigantic scale of the great cause of Democratic and popular government. If we fail, the failure will be lamentable, and our heads will be bowed with shame; for not only shall we fail for ourselves, but our failure will wreck the fond desires of all throughout the world who look toward us with the fond hope that here in this great Republic it shall be proved from ocean to ocean that the people can rule themselves, and thus ruling can gain liberty for and do justice both to themselves and to others. We who stand for the cause of the uplift of humanity and the betterment of mankind are pledged to eternal war against wrong whether by the few or by the many, by a plutocracy or by a mob. We believe that this country will not be a permanently good place for any of us to live in unless we make it a reasonably good place for all of us to live in. The sons of all of us will pay in the future if we of the present do not do justice to all in the present. Our cause is the cause of justice for all in the interest of all. The present contest is but a phase of the larger struggle. Assuredly the fight will go on whether we win or lose; but it will be a sore disaster to lose. What happens to me is not of the slightest consequence; I am to be used, as in a doubtful battle any man is used, to his hurt or not, so long as he is useful, and is then cast aside or left to die. I wish you to feel this. I mean it; and I shall need no sympathy when you are through with me, for this fight is far too great to permit us to concern ourselves about any one man's welfare. If we are true to ourselves by putting far above our own interests the triumph of the high cause for which we battle we shall not lose. It would be far better to fail honorably for the cause we champion than it would be to win by foul methods the foul victory for which our opponents hope. But the victory shall be ours, and it shall be won as we have already won so many victories, by clean and honest fighting for the loftiest of causes. We fight in honorable fashion for the good of mankind; fearless of the future; unheeding of our individual fates; with unflinching hearts and undimmed eyes; we stand at Armageddon, and we battle for the Lord.
"In 1998 we replaced the vanilla platform designed to be as much like the Democrat Platform as possible with a platform that actually complemented the National Republican Platform. That year we elected 27 freshman Republican representatives."
Dear heavens...could you possibly try to stop living in the past? Or at least stop repeating this line over and over? It gets old...very old...
"The platform was read in its entirety and displayed on the teleprompter."
The "Knox County" amendments were not displayed on the teleprompter...which is ironic due to the fact that the amendment itself...if I remember correctly...had the term "read the bill" right in it...the delegates were unable to read the amendment...
Dan Billings: "No, I think I am part of the party elite. Or a Country Club Republican. Me and Charlie Webster.
Is there a secret handshake or one of those cool special decoder rings that comes with that? :)
I am going to ask Charlie about that.
Maine Republican Platform Becomes Political Football
By Matthew Gagnon on Sunday, May 9, 2010
Well, it didn’t take much time for me to be proven right. Things, they are indeed changing in the Republican Party.
On the final day of the Maine GOP convention, Republicans gathered to approve the party platform. At most conventions, this is a simple matter as the delegates approve what comes out of the GOP Platform Committee, maybe occasionally with an amendment or two. This year was much different.
That was WHOLLY the fault of the leadership and had nothing to do with any move made by the people who submitted the amendment. It was submitted with the understanding that it would be presented in good faith to the body for consideration. No attempt was ever made to do an end-run around the process.
The fact that it was voted on based on only Ann's reading of it, imperfect as that whole process went itself, had more to do with the rousing nature of the bullet points as they were read and the sense among the body that they were being railroaded. I think if the leadership had distributed the platform in advance it probably would have found many supporters but still gone down in defeat, much like Ron Paul did two years ago. I think many of of the amendments would have passed handily. But I am glad it passed.
The fact that it had "read the bill" language in it but was still voted on in the spur of the moment was ironic. The fact that it prevailed nonetheless made it deliciously so. I for one am glad the "read the bill" language was in it, since it seems to be an area that the party leadership needs help on.
I believe that much of this could have been avoided if State Committee members reported regularly to County Committee meetings so that all members knew in a timely manner what is going on. Much of State Committee seems to be like a secret fraternal organization. Only those with the secret handshake seem to know what is said or done. If I go to a County Committee meeting, I would like to hear a timely report from our State Committee members with time for input as to the views of the county activists. And that report should be thorough detail and not just reading of minutes or the abridged official cathechism of state establishment insiders. Too much of what we learn is after-the-fact rather than anticipatory and pro-active. And, yes, the onus is on us to go back to our municipal committee to inform local Republicans and get their input, too.
For me the platform replacement was a wonderful turn of events, signifying the kind of new energy which is building at the grassroots made up of newly-awakened regular people who will work wonders for the state and nation when the votes are counted in November. If the refreshing Maine GOP 2010 Convention were put to music, it would look like this delightful video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EYAUazLI9k It was a thrill to be a delegate this year.
"Wonderful turn of events"
Mary, you were on the platform committee and presented the draft at the convention.
During the reading of the entire new platform at the convention, there was this guy who went up to the microphone and tried to stop the vote. I don't know his name but recognize him from State Committee meetings as always being a pain in the ass. Well, he went up to the microphone and said "Penobscot County Objects", and then proceeded to say that any changes to the platform should be tabled indefinitely. His motion was defeated of course, but I wondered if it was legal via the bylaws or Robert's Rules for him, a single person, to claim to speak or "object" for an entire county.
The progressives were just plain thunderstruck. It's amazing that the supporters were so quiet about it. Nobody made any announcement or bragged in any way before it was proposed. There were many knowing smiles and nods and the hall was more full at that moment than at any other time at the convention. That's why 3/4 of the delegates roared in approval. That was the only reason many came. They knew. The looks of astonishment at the Abbott and Mills booths were priceless.
I have been reading all of the comments and questions here and thinking that maybe some of these questions should be done by PM or directed to Maine GOP as we probably don't want the Democrats seeing argueing going on amoungst ourselves the way we have been since this new platform was passed. It was not the fact that the Republicans passed a new platform, but the way they passed it that they and others may come at us with. This is just my opinion, of course.
Apollo that is not what our chair Rick Johnston said, he requested that we break for a half an hour so people could actually read the amendments and the new platform and discuss it on the county level. that motion was defeated.
The liberals have been pushing the lie that the convention passed a platform that no one read. We all know of course, that the entire platform was read aloud to the entire convention in its entirety. That is why it passed, because everyone loved it. I wish they would have taken the "Ron Paul" line out of it, but the rest of it was well written, specific, and uncompromising, and that is what this country and state needs right now.
seriously I hope you are not calling me a liberal ;) this motion was made before the platform was read because several members of the Penobscot delegation wanted to read all of the amendments plus the platform.