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3 dead in Charlottesville

Neo nazis do what they do best... embarrass this fine nation with their stupidity.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-virginia-protests-president-idUSKBN1A...

Video of the crash (NSFL, very violent):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weg3fP0lZmE

Driver has been arrested.

Two others (state police) died in a freak helicopter crash. The cause of the crash is currently unknown.

BTW I know how you guys feel when Obama can't say, "radical islamic terrorism", it's the same exact feeling when Trump refuses to explicitly condemn "Neo Nazi terrorism". (Note that Ivanka did just that. Maybe she'll run in 2020?)

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Excuse me but there were

Excuse me but there were Antifa people intolved. You libtards are never ok unless your talking points are used.

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Accordingly to dipshits like

According to dipshits like Amoling, and POTUS, a person who shows up to protest an aggressive white supremacist rally is just as bad as a nazi bigot.

Can you believe they charged the driver from Ohio with murder? The dead protester was asking for it!

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Al, did you watch the video?

Al, did you watch the video? Please do so before you dig yourself any deeper.

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Actually the dipshits are

Actually the dipshits are the ones that were there on both sides.
The original issue was the removal of a statue of Robert Lee the head loser from the Civil War.
Which kind of fits with Mats post after all he is still realing from a loss.

Based on appearnces it appears the various protesters were comprized of memebrs of the samll penis society.
Along with driver, their mothers/wives ought to be prosecuted for allowing them out of the bunker.

AC your willingness to make that comparision ,considering what the two things are about just shows your bias .

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View on YouTube

I hate Illinois Nazis.

Still more people killed by Black Lives Matter inspired hate. Trying to remember when the Teleprompter of the United States condemned that hateful violence. Actually, Obama and his pals were funding and organizing BLM, and that hate that led to the assassination of police officers in the streets.

Oddly, enough, the radical left is much more violent than the American Nazis. Doesn't fit the narrative, but there you go.

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YES AC I watched several

YES AC I watched several videos and Antifa was quite prominent.

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And you mutt if you're fine

And you mutt if you're fine with Antifa you're an idiot.

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Gee, are Workers World, and

Gee, are Workers World, and Black Lives Matter part of the alt-right? Seems as though they were pretty prominently represented-sorta like the riots when Trump had rallies during the campaign. Pretty good bet the same person picked up the tab for their appearance/rioting.

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I remember a time in this

I remember a time in this country before the ACLU was completely co-opted by the left when the right of Nazis to march was defended by that organization.

From what I have been able to gather, the violence was initiated by Antifa cretins who apparently believe that political violence is just dandy. It's terrible that it escalated to death, but I have yet to see a positive link being made between the driver and the neo-Nazis.

I thought Trump's statement hit the correct note, condemning all political violence. The fact is, the Antifa animals have committed more violence in recent months than Nazis and the Klan combined over the past 3-4 decades.

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That's pretty much the way I

That's pretty much the way I see it as well. I do take exception in the usual suspects taking it to Trump for not being harsh enough, but nobody wants to talk about Workers World or Soros' likely again footing the bill for violence. Anyone looking for heroes on either side may be a while looking, but the usual one-sided interpretation seems to be the expected one-note samba.

BTW, all of this anti-confederacy stuff seems to blissfully ignore the fact that the Civil War pitted brother against brother and tore families apart. Were those families represented they would have some standing in the matter. A bunch of paid street thugs, agitators and political operatives-not so much.

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And the police did nothing

And the police did nothing
Posted on 08/13/2017 by Wirecutter

From the liberal HuffPo, no less. I’ve read about it on conservative sites but this is the first time on a liberal rag.

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. — There was nothing haphazard about the violence that erupted today in this bucolic town in Virginia’s heartland. At about 10 a.m. today, at one of countless such confrontations, an angry mob of white supremacists formed a battle line across from a group of counter-protesters, many of them older and gray-haired, who had gathered near a church parking lot. On command from their leader, the young men charged and pummeled their ideological foes with abandon. One woman was hurled to the pavement, and the blood from her bruised head was instantly visible.

Standing nearby, an assortment of Virginia State Police troopers and Charlottesville police wearing protective gear watched silently from behind an array of metal barricades — and did nothing.

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The police did little to stop the bloodshed. Several times, a group of assault-rifle-toting militia members from New York State, wearing body armor and desert camo, played a more active role in breaking up fights.

Make no mistake this mayor knows exactly what he’s doing. Charlotte was a confirmation that no matter how far leftists go they will not be blamed. Now they can tear down memorials with impunity and anyone who fights back will labeled an extremist of the highest order. And if any non-lefty is actually peaceful about it by God the liberals will make sure to start something.

The final warning: https://youtu.be/JXm5hkv

https://youtu.be/lVaBO_D5R_o

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" Several times, a group of

" Several times, a group of assault-rifle-toting militia members from New York State, wearing body armor and desert camo, played a more active role in breaking up fights."

Some questions:
1. what the hell were they doing there ? (Rhetorical question) How come none of hose armed New Yorkers shot the driver ?

2. Were any of the Sipsey St. irregulars there?

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Rebecca: My first reading of

Rebecca: My first reading of your post leaves me a bit bewildered.

I'll try again tomorrow.

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I've watched lots of videos

I've watched lots of videos of the protest. Both sides went in armed with shields, melee weapons, and projectiles to throw at each other. Both sides--the Nazi/White Power groups and the "antifas" groups--attacked each other.
As far as I'm concerned, they're two sides of the same coin.

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You people are so two faced.

You people are so two faced. On the one hand, liberals are all snowflakes who whine and complain. But if a small percentage of the radical left decides to fight fire with fire--these were armed white supremacists--you get your panties all in a bunch. The nazis weren't congregating in Virginia in support of truth in American history.

When a bunch of armed welfare ranchers seize government property because they want to make money off of public lands for free, you think they're a bunch of heros. But lefties standing up to racist bullies? A menace to society!

Can you imagine the outrage if black police officers were routinely killing white drivers and petty thieves because they "felt like they were in danger," with mostly black juries ALWAYS finding the cops not guilty? BLM came into existence for a reason.

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BLM came into existence for a

BLM came into existence for a reason.

It came into existence because the Democrats didn't want to address their wholesale failure in the inner cities, and looked for somewhere to direct the justifable rage.

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And Trump is either a

And Trump is either a pathetic politician who is so afraid of offending his racist base he can't condemn white supremacy outright, or he actually supports their platform. He viciously attacks anyone he disagrees with on twitter, using specific language and insult, so you think he would jump at the opportunity to call the nazis a "bunch of losers" or some such thing. Why won't he make that kind of statement? Why the milquetoast, ambiguous comments about "extremism"? Sad.

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@Matt: are you surprised?

@Matt: are you surprised? Nobody here has condemned the Neo Nazis either, at least without trying to use it to take a swipe at BLM.

If Trump's supporters don't do it, then it's no surprise that he won't do it either.

In other news, Merck CEO has resigned from Trump's manufacturing council because Trump supports Neo Nazis (at least at the dog whistle frequency):
https://twitter.com/Merck/status/897065338566791169

Trump's incredibly entertaining response:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/897079051277537280

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The original antifa movement

The original antifa movement prepares to break up a Nazi gathering (1944):

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@Matt: are you surprised?

@Matt: are you surprised? Nobody here has condemned the Neo Nazis either, at least without trying to use it to take a swipe at BLM.

You pathetic hypocrite. Where IS the lefty condemnation of BLM inspired vioelnce - period?!

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AC

AC
The best course on this one is denounce everything and everybody involved instead of creating faux things and comparisons
that are used for purpose of just more anti Trump rethoric.

Your above post is a total load of crap and shows a total lack of understnding of the differences of then an dnow!

By the way a reasonable review of AMG past would find a very strong history of negatives about Nazi things.

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Thanks Bruce for dumping on

Thanks Bruce for dumping on that picture of the landing. Those certainly were snowflakes who left their mommy's basement to go to a riot.

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Your welcome Al

Your welcome Al

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A.C., Thanks for the picture

A.C., Thanks for the picture of a bunch of armed white men off to fight the National Socialists. Very timely.

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Nazis are bad. All 200 of

Nazis are bad. All 200 of them, and the ten each of them might have left behind, so 2000.

There. Did that.

Where is the cultural safe space for people like me who want to be seen/treated as an individual, and who want to see/treat other people as individuals?

Nazis are anti-individual.
"Unite the Right" is anti-individual.
"Punch-a Nazi" is anti-individual.
Antifa is anti-individual.
Black Lives Matter is anti-individual.
Goolag's diversity initiative is anti-individual.
What they have in common is the othering of everyone not aligned with them in some fashion.
There is only force, not accommodation or persuasion or domestic tranquility.

In my view, this country was founded to elevate the individual over the tribe or group or mob, so that we could live side-by-side without being forced to adhere to someone else's orthodoxy, or give lip service to it, to avoid being branded as something we're not.

The more our culture persists in sorting people into their identity groups, intersectional or otherwise, the less it's possible for individuals to cooperate and exchange with each other, to teach each other, to enjoy each other, to relax around each other, to trust each other.

That's not progress for civil society.

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A.C., Thanks for the picture

A.C., Thanks for the picture of a bunch of armed white men off to fight the National Socialists. Very timely.

And we have a winner!

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Ah, yes, the safe space for

Ah, yes, the safe space for white proponents of the merits of the individual. Where on earth does it exist?

How about, say, the street? You get pulled over for a broken tail light, the cop will smile and tell you to get it fixed. A black 22 year old gets pulled over, and they better have their registration and insurance card on them, and keep their hands at 10 and 2. Or how about college admissions? "My nephew was valedictorian and he didn't get into Harvard, but his black classmate who was 6th in the class got in! It's discrimination!" Of course, about 900 white kids with pretty mediocre grades got in, too, because grandpa went there, and daddy the hedge fund manager writes a donation to the business school for 30 grand a year. (Did you all see the lengths Kushner's daddy went to get him into Harvard?)

Sometimes our country--or at least those that run it--aren't interested in "the individual."

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Or you could be a black 12

Or you could be a black 12 year old girl in Chicago who catches a stray bullet in the lung because some gang banger thinks he got thrown some shade by some other gang-banger..

Now THAT'S a liberal paradise for ya!

Anyway, I've probably had more guns stuck into my ribcage, or, for that matter, pointed at me by cops than you have. Come to think of it, I'll bet I've been caught in more race riots in the wrong place with the wrong color skin than you have, as well.

lol. Like you know anything about "the street." Come to think of it, I lived "on the street" as an 18 year-old.

But, snowflake, you are the all-knowing wizard of injustice. Us old people with decades of real world experience don't know a thing.

There is no way we could be as smart as you.

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