An Act to Regulate Firearm Possession on Campuses

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[i]Editor's Note: Is this necessary?[/i]

LD 1000 An Act To Increase Firearm Safety on College Campuses

Presented by Senator ROTUNDO of Androscoggin.
Cosponsored by Representative GERZOFSKY of Brunswick and
Representatives CAIN of Orono, CRAVEN of Lewiston, WALCOTT of Lewiston.

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This bill authorizes all public colleges and universities to regulate the possession of firearms on their campuses.

[url=http://janus.state.me.us/legis/LawMakerWeb/externalsiteframe.asp?ID=2800... text[/url]

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Another try at pretending our young adults are really just big infants and a search for a solution to a problem that does not exist. I would add to the bill a provision that makes the university directly liable for any act that occurs as a result of any student or citizen NOT being able to defend himself.

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[color=darkblue]Section 16. To keep and bear arms. Every citizen has a right to keep and bear arms and this right shall never be questioned.[/color]

[b]Impeach her and file class action suit for violating our Constitutional Rights. Where is the MCLU?[/b]

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Yeah, there's GERZOFSKY again.

Yup, he's a 2nd amendment advocate, all right.

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Ahhh! Are not campuses State property? And aren't weapons banned
from state parks which are state property?

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I don't think so. I think a carry permit allows you to carry in state parks. I don't, but seem to remember seeing that somewhere. TJC would probably know.

I could be wrong - packing.org says NO state park carry in Maine.

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Are not campuses State property?
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Not technically...

Many think they are public property however they are not really while you are free to come in and roam around it is not the kind of freedom to do what you want...They are kind of semi-public, we have the right to set limits on those that come to campus to protect the safety of students. As opposed to going to a public park in which you are free to roam around and do as you wish.

The first example of this is driving and traffic stops. At USM driving polices may only be enforced by the USM police.

Actually last year the USM policy got more strict we now cannot even have a Swiss army knife on us or it is considered a weapon.

Also schools such as Bates, Colby,etc. are private..

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Gerzofski, the Vermont communist, strikes at the rights of maine people once again.
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[quote="Bruce Libby"]Ahhh! Are not campuses State property? And aren't weapons banned
from state parks which are state property?[/quote]
Bruce, the sposors are from Lewiston and Brunswick. Bates College is in Lewiston, Bowdoin College in Brunswick. Both are private schools and both very liberal except when it comes to individual rights and responsibilities.

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Isn't a prohibition of Firearm Possession on "State" property a violation of our right to keep and bear arms in and of itself? "State" property is supposed to be owned by all citizens of the nation, and is it not an infringement on our right to keep and bear arms to deny us our right to carry a gun on State owned property?

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I know dirt -man I kind of see it now on the private level.
I quess what one does with their private property
is really up to the owner!

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[quote]...we now cannot even have a Swiss army knife on us or it is considered a weapon. [/quote]

You've got to be sh-tting me. :roll:

What's my Leatherman? A WMD?

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Bruce,

Regulated, yes; banned, no.

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College freshmen are apparently in constant receipt of new credit cards in the mail. Would you want to be sitting on a wallet full of shiny new credit cards and have no firearm to protect yourself? :shock:

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Certain [url=http://janus.state.me.us/legis/statutes/12/title12sec12707.html]wildlife sanctuaries[/url] have a "loaded firearm" possession ban. No exception for concealed firearms.

The statute making possession in parks problematic also refers to "loaded" weapons. [url=http://janus.state.me.us/legis/statutes/12/title12sec1806.html]find it here.[/url]

Each park has some particular rules, like these for baxter:

FIREARMS, HUNTING, AND TRAPPING: Hunting and trapping are prohibited within the Park. Use or possession of any firearm, bow and arrow, sling shot, or air rifle or pistol is prohibited. Firearms may be transported through the Park if kept in a car trunk, enclosed in a case, or otherwise inaccessible to use. Bows may be transported through the Park if unstrung or enclosed in a case.

This rule does not apply north of Trout Brook and Wadleigh Brook in T6R9; in T6R10; or in T2R9 and in T2R10 north of the West Branch of the Penobscot River, east to the thread of Abol Stream and west to the thread of the West Branch of the Penobscot River. Hunting with dogs is prohibited as defined in BSP Rule #4. General laws of the State pertaining to hunting and trapping apply in those areas, except that moose hunting and baiting any animals for hunting purposes are prohibited.

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None appear to go to the point of total ban, since when locked, you can transport firearms through Baxter.

Most National parks have their own individual regs.

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The thread seems to mention campuses, not wildlife sanctuaries.

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Well I know for a fact that some state parks allow hunting. I have hunted many times in Mt. Blue State Park.
There's a big sign at the entrance saying the park is multiple use and hunting is allowed but not on marked trails.
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jocko:

You are correct. It depends on the park. Bradbury Mountain also allows hunting off trail in certain locations. The Baxter stuff I posted obviously allows for hunting in parts of that park.

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[quote]Actually last year the USM policy got more strict we now cannot even have a Swiss army knife on us or it is considered a weapon.[/quote]

I would have been screwed in college without my jackknife. I worked in the barns and my knife was a necessary tool as far as I'm concerned.

I'm wondering how many fire arms are found on campuses?

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I would have been screwed in college without my jackknife. I worked in the barns and my knife was a necessary tool as far as I'm concerned.

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[quote]The thread seems to mention campuses, not wildlife sanctuaries.[/quote]

At some colleges, it's hard to tell the difference. :)

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[quote="ListenASec"][quote]Actually last year the USM policy got more strict we now cannot even have a Swiss army knife on us or it is considered a weapon.[/quote]

I would have been screwed in college without my jackknife. I worked in the barns and my knife was a necessary tool as far as I'm concerned.

I'm wondering how many fire arms are found on campuses?[/quote]

When I went to university, there was at least one gun on campus, my 1911. Of course, I attended in the deep south where they were, and are, not afraid of guns, or most other mystic talismen.

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Gun control is the last piece to the "Communization of Maine" puzzle. It is the only thing the commies have not been able to push down our throats yet to any serious degree. If we allow them to push the incremental restrictions any farther, this state will be totally in the Flaming Red of Marxism and Satan!

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Our public colleges already have poor records on human rights. This will make it worse.

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[quote="thejohnchapman"]

The statute making possession in parks problematic also refers to "loaded" weapons. [url=http://janus.state.me.us/legis/statutes/12/title12sec1806.html]find it here.[/url]

In reading the statute one thing strikes me as interesting. There is no provision to allow even law enforcement officers to carry a loaded firearm in the parks. And, since any law enforcement officer can have his/her certification revoked on conviction for any misdemeanor, :shock: I am somewhat surprised that no Trooper, Municipal Officer, Game Warden, etc. has been charged with this heinous crime. :shock:

Is this a catch 22 situation? Or where our legislators asleep when voting on this provision, whcih I am sure was proofed by the AG's office.

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