AK-47 vs Cop

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Editor
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Editor's Note: Just a typical day in Mayberry, RFD.

Tom C
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Cop wins!

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IMHO this is not a a very powerful gun. Yes it is more powerful than than the handgun the cop has but the AK-47 is woefully overrated. What makes them so fearful is their ability to be fully automatic. The round per se is a marginal deer cartridge. The 7.62x 39 is less powerful that the 30-30 and with its low velocity of about 2300fps it is not considered extremely lethal. In war, as a weapon of war, the idea is to wound as it takes many more man hours to rescue and care for the wounded than the dead.

Out LEO's are mostly equipped with the AR-15/16 and has similar characteristics while our police SWAT teams are equipped with the more powerful .308.

Such videos only tend to put ideas in the minds of those who are at best on the edge of society.Have you ever noticed after each and every media displayed mass shooting how the copy cats come out of the wood work. Gun owners have enough antis after them without the media continually replaying these horrific shootouts even when the police win.

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What surprised me most about this video - and others on YouTube like it - is the number of rounds fired in close proximity at the policeman, all missing their target. Rotten aim aside, I'm surprised the rounds didn't disable the police car.

skf

Tom C
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Hate to get hit with one, though, the AK-47 has caused its share of murder and mayham around the world.

Still, it seems to be a lousy weapon with which to commit mass murder. In the the infamous Stockton schoolyard shootings of about 20 years ago an assailant opened fire with an AK-47 on a schoolyard. 35 children and one teacher hit were hit, but 30 of those survived.

In the infamous North Hollywood shootout of 1997, robbers wearing body armor fired hundreds of rounds from full-automatic AK-47s, but their fire resulted in no fatalities. On the other hand, the cops also found their weapons to be inadequate for fighting criminals in body armor, and they raided the local sporting goods store to get more effective weapons in order to stop those criminals.

Michelle Anderson
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What courage! I would have made a U-turn the first time a shot hit my car!

I do need to say, though, that it seems to me that shooting from inside a car through one's own windshield is a dangerous and not all that effective way to do battle.

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IMHO this is not a a very powerful gun.

Not to be argumentative, but in my world, any gun that puts bullets that close to me is the most powerful gun in the world at that moment.

Tom C
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Not to be argumentative, but in my world, any gun that puts bullets that close to me is the most powerful gun in the world at that moment.

I read somewhere that more people have been killed with .22s than any other single round.

As I understand. it's actually hard to shoot though a car, the angle has to be right. My buddy borrowed my 10mm to practice with before he went to Iraq . He when to a sand pit with some folks with some other guns and they fired at an old pickup tailgate. He said the 9mms and .357s went though the outside layer of steel and rattled around inside the tailgate, but the 10mms went through the whole thing like butter. He went to his CO and said "Hey, how come we aren't issued these things?" His CO said "That's would be a good idea!"

I remember when I used to shoot at the Falmouth club the cops would leave car doors on the lower firing range to practice with.

Based on all this, I surmised that it's not the easiest thing to do is shoot though a car, but then again, I wouldn't rely on the sheet metal to protect me, either.

In that video it sure seems to me that the bullets are deflecting off the windshield. Not that it would make me feel any safer if it were me behind the windshield. It was gutsy to keep the pursuit up.

Mike G
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Is editor suggesting greater control of AK-47s RE: the comment at the beginning of the flick?

Considering your flip=flop on property rights was wondering?

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Brave Cop!

7.62x39 is a lethal enough caliber. I wouldn't want to be hit with one. They will penetrate all levels of soft body armor. That said, compared to 30 caliber weapons, it is woefully underpowered. However, 5.56 NATO, (i.e. 223) is also.

The AK is an inaccurate weapon though. Thugs and Terrorists like them becasue they are cheap and high capacity.

I like my SKS over an AK any day in the accuracy department. My buddy bagged a nice Buck some years back with an SKS.

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MikeG -

Always a pleasure, thank you. There is no flip-flop on prop rights. And if you are reading "greater gun control" in my posts here - perhaps a visit to the optometrist is in order.

Best,
skf

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I happen to be a fan of the AK, owning several of them. As a weapon of war it is second to none with somewhere around 100 million built since 1947.

The 7.62x39 is an excellent round in warfare as it devestates soft tissue in the human body with shock. I have seen ballistic gel testing and its astounding. It is so good that the Russians considered going back to it use for the military a few years back after obsoleteing it previously.

The AK is known for its rugged reliability, much more so than the AR. I have talked with several who served in Viet Nam and they said you could take one off a body in the water, shake out the mud and water and cock it and it would fire. A testament to its reliability.

I would not shoot at a cop with an AK but I would not shoot at a cop with anything. The weapon is an inanamite object requring a human to load, cock and fire it to do harm. This video is being used to diss the AK and thats too bad. Being a technical junkie I admire it for its engineering and combat proven proficiency. It is no different in function than my Ruger 10-22.

But a gullible public will buy this swill and we'll have more bad laws eventually.

WC

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Woodcanoe,

I pretty much agree with your post. I like the SKS better though (either Russian or Chicom) they are definitely more accurate.

Joe Redneck
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A good cop doing his job the way he is supposed, chasing robbers. He certainly has some brass ones. Glad he won and the bad guys lost. That's how it should be. Wonder what charges and sentences these guys will get and how long before someone let's them out on parole or appeal. Another MAJOR problem with our system.