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Anti-Gun, Liberal Editor Shows True (yellow) Colors

From Today's Morning Sentinel:

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Gun control after
Virginia Tech massacre?
Not on your life -- the NRA won't allow it
David B. Offer

History has shown that no law will stop a madman intent on doing evil."
-- National Rifle Association press release, April 27

The National Rifle Association is wrong.

Gun control laws can stop madmen. They can prevent evil.

History offers proof.

After a string of mass shootings in the 1980s and early 1990s, Australia was horrified by the slaughter of 35 people at the Port Arthur Historical Site in Tasmania. Martin Bryant, 28, sprayed death from an AR-15 assault rifle.

http://morningsentinel.mainetoday.com/view/columns/3905416.html

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I don't have time right now but at the end of the week I'll certainly be responding. It makes me sick when I see someone as apathetic as this in a position used to constantly influence others with this liberal drivel. I remember when the term "Yellow Journalism" used to mean dirty, not spinless.......... How sad. I can't wait to spend some time educating this tool, all so it will be discarded and never seen by the general public.

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The responses already posted there show "chromedome" for the fool that he surely must be. Despite his wishful thinking, gun control laws don't work.

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Talk about having an extremely poor grasp of history!

Not only has gun control preceded the genocides of the last century, the biggest mass murders in this country were committed with:

1. Airplanes.

2. Fertilizer.

In Maine, we even had a very sick person someone commit murder with:

3. Coffee.

And the "gun safe" UK reference in the article was grossly misleading (would a liberal LIE?):

[quote]From 1991 to 1995, crimes against the person in England's inner cities increased 91 percent. Your chances of being mugged in London are now six times greater than in New York. England's rates of assault, robbery, and burglary are far higher than America's, and 53 percent of English burglaries occur while occupants are at home, compared with 13 percent in the U.S., where burglars admit to fearing armed homeowners more than the police.[/quote]

[url=http://www.reason.com/news/show/28582.html] SOURCE[/url]

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I have noted a trend recently on threads about guns and in opeds and letters to the editor, for gun grabbers to state the the disasterous results of the UK and Australia gun grabs as big success fro gun control.

This can be spooky as that is how the left almost turned WWII appeasement into a successful policy. Folk considered the idea such a rewrite of history and the facts that it deserved no comment, so the left embraced the idea.

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JIMV,

Anyone who can consider a 44% increase in the homicide by gunshot rate [i]after all the "legitimate" weapons had been confiscated[/i] a "success story" is in serious need of a brain transplant. [C.f.: crime statistics in Australia.]

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Brewer: 2 arrested in gun theft at store

..."BREWER — The two people suspected of breaking into Maine Military Supply on outer Wilson Street last month have been arrested on federal firearm charges, one while in a western Maine border crossing community near Canada, and the other in Vermont"...

..."The list of stolen items includes five 9 mm pistols, with two being semiautomatic, a MAC 10 .45-caliber semi-automatic assault pistol, six rifles, two being "M-16 style" and four AK-47 assault rifles, according to court documents. Officials declined to indicate how many of the guns were recovered"...

[url=http://www.bangordailynews.com/news/t/city.aspx?articleid=149895&zoneid=... STORY[/url]

The writer of this article knows nothing about firearms. Thus the story is written with everthing being described as an "assault rifle or pistol" in order to deliberately incite fear amongst the populace who do not know any better. This kind of journalism disgusts me to no end!

Murder is illegal in this country and has been forever yet no gun law has ever stopped a murderer. It was illegal to possess a firearm on the VT campus yet mr BAD GUY ignored the law. Ownership of handguns for self defense in DC is illegal yet DC has one of the highest murder rates in the nation.

I am convinced that the elites are trying to use disarmament in order to be able to better control those of us they see as rednecks who like guns. They are afraid we might fight back.

I am a redneck who loves guns.......and his liberty. I am not afraid to defend it from all comers!

Good thing!

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No matter how many laws that are ot on the books will stop the criminals from getting guns. If someone wants to commit a crime they will find a way to get a gun.
Guns are a way of life here in Maine and should be used right. You should have respect for them,

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I am glad they got those idiots that broke into the place in Brewer, looks like good police work.

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[quote]No matter how many laws that are ot on the books will stop the criminals from getting guns. If someone wants to commit a crime they will find a way to get a gun.[/quote]

Along with that, can anyone state any time anywhere where a gun fired of on it's own? I know this is a tired example, but it still works. Guns are safe when left without anyone touching it. It's the people you have to look out for. Anyone in for banning people???

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"...can anyone state any time anywhere where a gun fired of on it's own?"

Actually, I do know of such a case. But the circumstances are so unbelievably unlikely that the danger level is no higher than the danger from a falling meteorite. An acquaintance had been hunting (rabbits, I believe) in snowy weather. Due to a most unlikely chain of events, there was some snow & ice in the shotgun's magazine, the frontmost shell was not ejected, and the gun was placed in the cabinet with its action closed; once things thawed a little, the gun's internal mechanism did its thing & the fool thing went off. Bizzare? Yes. Rare? Extremely so. A real danger to someone? I think not.

To follow Shandier's final comment with a quote from [i]The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy,[/i] "People are a problem."

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At least the readers comments are correcting the foolishness in this column. I wish I wasn't on such a crazy deadline right now so I could write my response too. 10 seconds here and there to drop in and make a quick snippet doesn't cut it when a well researched and passionate response is necessary. Only a few more days. At least it is easy to refute that kind of crap. Their arguments are all based on "feelings" and are short on facts so "winning" is easy. Like catchin' fish in a barrel......... :wink:

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Keep it on File.

One of us ought to write up a well documented rebuttal to all of this victim - disarmament tripe that the left perpetually and repeatedly tries to indoctrinate the ignorant and gullible with, and keep it on file.

Of course we'd want to update it from time to time, as new statistics, research etc. became available.

Then when we get another anti - 2nd Amendment Rights E-mail or posting somewhere, we can just look if up and copy / paste as needed. If the left is going to fire volley after volley of the same old propaganda, why don't we save ourselves valuable time and keep replying with our own boilerplate rebuttal; only ours will be backed up by documented and verifiable fact in stead of their disingenuous rhetoric of fear mongering, distortion, and outright lies.

We've got better things to do than have to re-write the same old response to the same old garbage every time they throw it at us... and you KNOW that they will never give up.

That's one thing that I have to grudgingly concede to the socialists; they NEVER GIVE UP!
Give them enough time, and they will beat down the castle door with a dead fish.

So I think I'm going to put some text files on the HD to pull out whenever the situation calls for it, and free up some time for more important things....

Like shooting. Or reloading. Or cleaning and oiling.

Heck; maybe when you do have the time to let loose, BigShooter, we'll just copy/paste your dissertation - which I'm sure will be a doozey - and file it away, if you don't mind, for the next anti-gun e-mail circular we get.

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..."The list of stolen items includes five 9 mm pistols, with two being semiautomatic, a MAC 10 .45-caliber semi-automatic assault pistol, six rifles, two being "M-16 style" and four AK-47 assault rifles, according to court documents. Officials declined to indicate how many of the guns were recovered"...

OK,
of the 5- 9 mm's only 2 were semi autos? what mfg. makes a 9mm revolver? Aren't all 9's semi's or does S&W make a 9 mm revolver the way they make 45 acp revolvers?
the MAC 10 "assault pistol" is like one of those kit race cars you put on a volkswagon, it's just another semi auto. It's a nice gun but nothing spectacular about it.
m-16 style? I suppose any gun can be M16 style if you say it has a trigger and shoots bullets it's m-16 style!
big deal. plastic stocks, removable mags and pistol grips make these guns evil, boo hoo.
AK-47 assault rifles? I'd bet the mortgage they were semi auto AK's not the full auto military "assualt rifles"

clearly the author is a dingaling relying on other's work for his background material.

not real reporting, just regurgitating propaganda.

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Dingallingalling...

Actually, I'm pretty sure that S&W did put out a 9mm double action revolver, something like the "Ladysmith"; a compact snub-nosed job for hideout carry. The 9X19mm headspaces on the case mouth rather than the rim, much as the .45ACP revolvers do.
I don't know if they used a "half moon" clip with the 9mm or not, but they were standard with the 1917 .45ACP Colt and S&W revolvers used in WW-I.

Those 9 mil wheel guns were not all that popular, IIRC, and I don't think that they still make them, and I seldom see one in a show or shop any more.
Ballistically, the 9mm Parabellum is about on a par with the .38 Special.

Those MACs are ugly as sin, but no more lethal than any hi-capacity semi automatic firearm in the same caliber. The analogy of putting a race car body on a VW is very appropriate. It may look intimidating, but it probably won't go any faster.

I tend to be a traditionalist, and I like my wood and steel - but if I need an iron in a pinch, I could care less what it looks like as long as it works and I can hit what I aim at with it.

And again; remember the old saw about what happens when they repeat the same lie over and over ad infinitum.
And they have most of the media and the government School Czars doing all the repeating they want for them.

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Taurus, and probably others, make a 9mm revolver. In fact I was just in Maine Military Supply a couple of weeks before looking at them. I don't care for 9mm so didn't look long. I think he had at least 2 in his case when I was there. I prefer wheel guns so usually check out what he has. I bought a .357 Smith from him 2 years ago which in my opinion is a much better defensive round than any 9 mil. Also my wife bought me a .38 Taurus with 2" barrel for a Christmas present last year. That is my carry gun. The Taurus ultra light snubby is a nice piece. I believe it is made in 9 mm also.

Frank has had a class three license since Jan 2007 but he had mostly silencers and short barreled shotguns and that type of thing. I don't believe he had any, or many full auto weapons.

Very few selective fire AK 47's exist in this country. In order to be available to civilians they would have had to have been registered before 1986 I believe. They would be pricey and I doubt that he had any. The AK's he carried were primarily AKM's, Krinks, 74's etc. All in semi auto.

The writer had to throw out the catchey phrase "assault whatever" in order to hype the story.

Pisses me off there are so many ignorant people in this country, the media and the government!

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[quote="Bigshooter"] wish I wasn't on such a crazy deadline right now so I could write my response too. [/quote]

Well, considering the drubbing Mr. Offer is taking, I'd guess you might get penalized for piling on, or unnecessary roughness, or something.

I'll bet the author wishes he stayed in retirement - I am sure he misses the day when any fool with access to printing press could say whatever nonsense he pleased, and there was no arguing with him.

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[quote="pmh"]JIMV,

Anyone who can consider a 44% increase in the homicide by gunshot rate [i]after all the "legitimate" weapons had been confiscated[/i] a "success story" is in serious need of a brain transplant. [C.f.: crime statistics in Australia.][/quote]

Per teh British Home office gun crime in the Uk rose 80% in the first 5 years after they banned all guns and violent crime more than doubled. It has gotten worse since.

Hot burglaries (where the people are in the house) are almost 80% in the UK, the burglars hit the folk in their homes for the money in their wallets in addition to the burglary as they know the citizens are helpless. In the USA the rate is about 17%. Our crooks fear armed residents.

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