Any predictions on Iran, as in When?

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Empirefalls
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Any predictions on Iran, as in When?


Chris McGreal in Washington
guardian.co.uk,
Friday 17 February 2012
US officials believe Iran sanctions will fail, making military action likely
• Growing view that strike, by Israel or US, will happen
• 'Sweet spot' for Israeli action identified as September-October

Officials in key parts of the Obama administration are increasingly convinced that sanctions will not deter Tehran from pursuing its nuclear programme, and believe that the US will be left with no option but to launch an attack on Iran or watch Israel do so...

...there is a strong current of opinion within the administration – including in the Pentagon and the state department – that believes sanctions are doomed to fail....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/17/us-officials-iran-sanctions-...

Empirefalls
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I am guessing April. April

I am guessing April. April seems to be a month many military actions and wars take place and begin.

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I'm thinking Syria first,

I'm thinking Syria first, followed by a quick dusting and rearrangement of Iraq's furniture. Then, buddabing, you're on the border of Iran with a couple of successful caucuses under your belt. Isreal blushes and springtime is for lovers.

Empirefalls
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Dont be standing too close to

Dont be standing too close to this guy over the next couple of months

johnw
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After the unbelievable

After the unbelievable success we have had in Iraq and Afghanistan why not Syria and Iran?
And with the equal sharing of the burden and sacrifice of young men and women as well as materials and money with our allies this is a no brainer.
With all of those people yearning for American style democracy the islamic hardliners don't stand a chance of controlling the new governments . Just take a look at Egypt and Libya.... now there's success!
Kind of ironic that the current president who railed against the former for his aggressive foreign policy towards the Mideast appears to be applying the same in spades.
Obama had his chance to help overthrow the Iranian government when the Iranian people were rising against the regime....... he did nothing.
Bombs and boots before November........

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This is going to be a

This is going to be a disaster. The people presently in charge of Iran (as opposed to the Iranian people themselves) will retaliate if attacked, and if we or the Israelis don't attack, the Iranians will strike first, and it will be worldwide. This, after all, is exactly what they have been saying for years.

It won't be like Iraq. I fully expected the war to come to America, and was stunned when it didn't. The Twelthers running Iran won't make that mistake--they will hit the Homeland, with assets they already have in place.

What could have been a limited strike 5 years ago is going to spiral out of control, even more so with the incompetent crew running the White House today. It's all the worse because they believe themselves to be brilliant, not knowing themselves for the fools that they are.

As for "when", before November.

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The only sanction Iran would

The only sanction Iran would understand is our blockade of the Straits of Hormuz. We already have the forces in place and the blockade would have an almost instant effect. It would also show the Saudis we meant business and the response would be the collapse of OPEC and the reduction of oil prices.

Why we don't do it? Simple, there are too many powerful Americans making money from the status quo. Remember what happened to the Barbary pirates when a president with spine decided to send the USS Constitution to fire a few shots.

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i have always said, we need

i have always said, we need to step back and let Israel handle this. They can do it in a very clean and efficient manner. We need to stop telling Israel how to protect themselves and let them do it without criticism, condemnation, or interference

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Bob, do you support

Bob, do you support resupplying them when they run low on munitions?

Roger Ek
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Back during the "oil crisis"

Back during the "oil crisis" in the 1970s the Arabs wanted us to supply them with arms. Henry Kissinger told the Arabs we could not provide them with foreign aid due to politics (donors) in the USA. Henry then told them to just raise the price of oil and they would have all the money they needed to buy arms. OPEC was born with that one statement. We are the world's biggest arms merchant. Business is a little slow right now, but there is an order in for some huge bunker busters.

During WWII we bombed the Messerschmitt factory into oblivion. Messerschmitts continued to be produced. Our intelligence people frantically pored over aerial photos to find the second factory. Meanwhile, in thousands of homes and shops, families were producing parts for fighters. They all fit when assembled at airfields.

Iran knows this. Their production facilities are widely dispersed, but I bet all the parts will fit when they come together.

Bob S
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Bob, do you support

Bob, do you support resupplying them when they run low on munitions?

If they ask, absolutely!

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I thought Obama was against

I thought Obama was against all wars and would bring all our soldiers home?

That aside, I think Syria will be the next target, rather than Iran. We should have hit Yemen before Iraq anyway, so Yemen could also be high up on the list too.

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I believe the route will be

I believe the route will be covert infiltration of their program and a accident will happen at one of their facilities setting them back years .

charlie neville
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If Obama and his advisors

If Obama and his advisors believe war with Iran will help his election, there will be war! If no help, then no war.

charlie

Mike G
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what charlie said

what charlie said

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The minority Alewite

The minority Alewite government in Syria is essentially a client of Iran. The Alawis are a sect of the Shiites; meantime, the rest of Syria is 74% Sunni.

Not saying i support said action, but If there's going to be an attack on Iran, be it Israeli, US, US/IsraelI or some form of joint Israeli/NATO alliance (which seems the more likely because Iran does pose a real threat to western Europe), an attack on Syria would seem to be a waste of resources. Anything that seriously limits Iran's ability to function will ultimately topple al-Assad.

If it happens, the Sunni states will cluck their tongues and vigorously condemn in public, and privately those responsible behind closed doors.

johnw
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With Bebe's up coming visit

With Bebe's up coming visit any new predictions on US actions in Iran and Syria???

Michelle Anderson
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I predict March 20, 2003.

I predict March 20, 2003.

Oh, wait. That was the last time we started bombing a country on the guess that they were working on weapons of mass destruction.

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Empirefalls: I am guessing

Empirefalls: I am guessing April. April seems to be a month many military actions and wars take place and begin.

Quite. As far back as King David, spring was the time for war:

"In the spring when kings march out to war, David sent Joab with his officers and all Israel." (2 Samuel 11).

And that sentence begins the saga of what happens when a ruler is not doing what he's supposed to be doing.

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For those eager to start a

For those eager to start a ground war with Iran..Iraq had 30million people .....look at Iran's demographics...
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=iranian%20demographics%202010&sou...

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Despite disparaging comments

Despite disparaging comments about "chickenhawks" and "neocons", no one is "eager" for a war with Iran, be it air strikes or "boots on the ground". The question we face is the same question we faced with Iraq: what is the "least bad choice"? Because every choice we (and especially Israel) is faced with is a "bad choice". Do nothing, and risk a WMD attack? Hit them with air strikes, and risk worldwide retaliation? Strike nuclear facilities, and risk spreading radioactive contamination in heavily populated areas? Attack them, and set the Middle East on fire? Don't attack them, and let the Iranian leadership (not the people, who have little say in the matter) choose a time to attack to their advantage?

"May you live in interesting times..."

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No one is ever going to stop

No one is ever going to stop the wars in that area of the world. We should pull out, bring our troops home and prepare to defend our own homeland against the same as we have been importing them for years and they only have one objective in mind. All the unrest in the middle east will come to an abrupt halt when that time is ripe. Nothing we can do about it or anyone else. One would be wise to know that it's not just Iran that they'll be fighting against but you'll have to throw Russia and China into the mix too.

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Sidebar: ************** March

Sidebar:

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March 4, 2012 7:03 PM

Stuxnet: Computer worm opens new era of warfare

(CBS News)... most pernicious computer virus ever known .... target appears to have been the centrifuges in a top secret Iranian nuclear facility. Stuxnet showed, for the first time, that a cyber attack could cause significant physical damage to a facility. Does this mean that future malware, modeled on Stuxnet, could target other critical infrastructure -- such as nuclear power plants or water systems? ....

[url=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57390124/stuxnet-computer-worm-ope... - 60 Minutes[/url]

[url=http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7400890n&utm_source=feedburner&ut... Minutes Video[/url]

Calvin
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APRIL. And Obama wants

APRIL.
And Obama wants advanced notice? He'll get it, when our intelligence tells him the attack is happening.

IAC
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Netanyahu Has Already Decided

Netanyahu Has Already Decided to Strike Iran

This makes me dizzy. A US "Jewish community" news organization reports that an Israeli TV channel reports that US "officials" report that Bebe has made up his mind already.

At least in his recent visit to the White House, he was not escorted in and out among the garbage cans out back.

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Not going to happen. If the

Not going to happen. If the GOP nominates Romney, there will no need for Obama to go to win since he will be reelected. The only change I see is if the GOP nominates Dr. Paul. If that is the case, then I believe he will go to war, which as been mentioned would be a disaster.

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In my opinion, unless the

In my opinion, unless the Iranians are at a stage of actually having the material (which the Israelis do not think they are), the most likely outcome is that a strike MAY OCCUR sometime after the election. There are several obvious reasons for that timing.

If Obama wins, he doesn’t care.
If Obama losses, he doesn’t care.

In the meantime with militaries of Syria and Iraq in disarray, the line of attack across Syria, northern Iraq etc. is wide open. Though the ‘conservatives’ are in power in Iran, and in a struggle for dominance, there is little direct retaliation that Iran can exert. Indirectly, echoes of the oil embargos could occur.

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Striking Iran's nuclear

Striking Iran's nuclear capacity has absolutely nothing to do with building democracies. The time for regime change was when the Iranians were protesting. Us support, even in the form of a verbal statement could have made a difference then. That was the window of opportunity for a regime change. When Israel took out Iraq's nuclear capacity, it was only about destroying the nuclear threat and nothing more. It is mis-guided to compare striking Iran in order to cripple her nuclear capacity with other current wars.

The current regime in Iran has made public statements about Israel being the little Satan and the United States being the big Satan. We are as much a target as Israel. Netenayahu's speech at AIPAC made a powerful case that the time is running out. I think it will be during the Obama presidency, which is unfortunate because Obama will not give a clear message of support . Israel has capacity but not the capacity of the United States. As Netanyahu said, people talk about the cost of taking out Iran's nuclear capacity but they should be talking about the cost of not doing so. If Iran has nuclear weapons it will function as an umbrella for terrorists and global terrorism will increase. Look at Irans history in recent years and then imagine how much worse it will get if Iran is nuclear. As Netanyahu said on the interview with Greta, the difference between Iran and Iraq is that we know Iran is developing nuclear capacity where as we were not sure with Iraq. Iran is not developing nuclear capacity to keep the peace, but to actually use it to destroy the infidel cultures including the United States. Allowing Iran to get nuclear weapons is insane and irreversible. It would change the world as we know it for the worse.

In my opinion, unless the Iranians are at a stage of actually having the material (which the Israelis do not think they are), the most likely outcome is that a strike MAY OCCUR sometime after the election. There are several obvious reasons for that timing.

It was on tonight's news that there is some new footage showing a radiation cleanup operation at one of the nuclear facilities in Iran indicating that they do have the material.

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Any predictions on Iran, as

Any predictions on Iran, as in When?

[quote]Empirefalls
I am guessing April. April seems to be a month many military actions and wars take place and begin[/quote]

That prediction was way off, but Israel striking Iran or vice versa, has got to be getting closer with Israel reportedly convinced Iran will hit Israel with nukes once they got them.

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Here's a summary from

[url=http://pjmedia.com/spengler/2012/08/20/israels-options-after-americas-fo...'s a summary from Spengler....[/url]

The shift towards a new equilibrium “much less favorable for Israel and more favorable for Iran” was already in progress as we wrote, with the purge of the Egyptian military’s old guard and its replacement by officers allied to the Muslim Brotherhood. If Israel does nothing, it is likely to confront.....

Read the whole thing.

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