Bangor Daily News asked Maine police departments for names, addresses and birth dates of all concealed-weapon permit holders

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Bangor Daily News asked Maine police departments for names, addresses and birth dates of all concealed-weapon permit holders

The Bangor Daily News has asked all Maine police departments for the names, addresses and dates of birth of all concealed-weapon permit holders, a move that is angering gun-rights advocates.

“The BDN has no intention to release this information publicly,” said Anthony Ronzio, the newspaper’s director of news and new media, in a prepared statement Thursday. “We intend to use this information, along with other information we are gathering, to analyze possible correlations and trends relevant to our reporting projects.”

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Ugenetoo
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Apparently there is a

Apparently there is a governor's press conference about to be held dealing with this matter.
Whether or not the media will choose to broadcast it is up for grabs.

Mike G
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I wonder if the name

I wonder if the name addresses and birth dates of hunters will be next

Rick Blaine
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Bambi will be on the other

Bambi will be on the other side of the one-way glass for the police line-up... Two hoof-stomps means: "THAT'S the guy who shot Mommy!"

...Then the crazy, glassy-eyed liberals will REALLY start with the weird stuff!

Roger Ek
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All towns should tell the BDN

All towns should tell the BDN they are waiting for pending legislation before releasing information that would place their townspeople at risk of burglary or physical attack.

I'm old enough to remember when the BDN was called The Bangor Deadly. They had real reporters who were diligent at uncovering corruption at all levels. Those days went away decades ago. That rag is now more often referred to as Pravda on the Penobscot.

Vic Berardelli
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WABI-TV Bangor had video

WABI-TV Bangor had video interview with Rep. Corey Wilson (R-Augusta) about his bill to make gun registrations confidential. Print media have yet to report it.

Here's the link to see the story:

http://www.wabi.tv/news/37665/augusta-lawmaker-aims-to-keep-identities-o...

I also fear the social shaming to which the BDN would use the data. Years ago when anti-smoking efforts started, the San Francisco Chronicle started the distasteful practice of writing, "He was a smoker" in any obit about someone who died under the age of 85. Can you imagine a story about somebody who doesn't even show the gun during the act but gets arrested on a domestic abuse complaint and they write, "He is a registered gun owner."

Naran
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Has the BDN reviewed what

Has the BDN reviewed what happened to the NY newspaper that disclosed the names and addresses of the concealed-carry and gun owners in their own area?

Hello, death threats, hiring armed security, and retaliatory "outings" of the home addresses belonging to the newspaper owners and staffers.

What does "let sleeping dogs lie" mean to some people? Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD do something. I hope the BDN thinks it over, and lets this alone.

They are getting a virtual firestorm of attacks and criticism for this action, and it's well-deserved.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/newspaper-publishes-gun-ow...
The NY Newspaper that Published a Map of all Licensed Gun Owners

http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/als-morning-meeting/199218/where-the-...
The Journal News Has Lived to Regret the Action

Naran
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From a reader comment on the

From a reader comment on the BDN site.

Courtesy Dorothea Dolly Perkins:

Peoria County Circuit Court Enters Permanent Injunction, Finds Information Exempt from Disclosure under FOIA

Springfield – Illinois State Police Officials today announced they arenot required to release the names and addresses of individuals who possess Firearm Owner Identification (FOID) cards based on a Peoria County Circuit Court ruling. The Court also finds that the release of names is exempt from disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), which permanently bars the Illinois State Police from revealing the identities of the state’s firearm owners.

In September of 2010, the Illinois State Police (ISP) received a FOIA request seeking the name and date of issuance and the expiration of each person with a FOID card in the ISP’s FOID database. The Illinois State Police argued that the request posed an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy. The Agency was sued, and after months of citing exemptions of endangerment
to the lives and safety of law enforcement officers and citizens, a
permanent injunction was entered.

Former Governor James R. Thompson and Matthew R. Carter of Winston & Strawn LLP argued on ISP’s behalf that concerns for public safety are not speculative, and provided the court with several examples of recent murders in which the victims, one a Chicago Police Officer, were murdered for guns.

“The Illinois State Police has a duty to protect the citizens of
Illinois, and to ensure that they are not unnecessarily placed at risk,” said Illinois State Police Director Hiram Grau. “At the same time, we must constantly balance the dissemination of public information against the privacy rights of individuals when responding to Freedom of Information Act requests in determining whether the information should, in fact, be made available to the public,” he stressed.

The Illinois State Police has made every effort to provide statistical data, while balancing the Freedom of Information Act process with the unwarranted invasion of personal privacy throughout the legal proceedings. The Agency acted accordingly under the law, citing private information and an unwarranted invasion of privacy for those in possession of a FOID card.

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Maine House Republicans -

Maine House Republicans - Press Conference on BDN CCW Permit Request


Courtesy Maine House Republicans

GOP lawmakers, joined by Kennebec County Sheriff Randy Liberty, held a press conference today to condemn the BDN's FOAA request of police departments seeking the names, addresses, and birth dates of all concealed weapons permit holders in the wake of the introduction of Rep. Wilson's bill to keep that information confidential. The BDN's move is a provocative act that harasses law abiding gun owners and drains police resources. Rep. Wilson's bill protects the privacy of gun owners and the safety and constitutional rights of all Mainers.

Caption: From left, Sen. Gary Plummer, Senate Republican Leader Sen. Mike Thibodeau, House Republican Leader Rep. Ken Fredette, Sheriff Liberty, and Rep. Corey Wilson.

Maine House Republicans on Facebook

Naran
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BDN Reader Comment of the

BDN Reader Comment of the Week

tjones4 wrote:

So maybe a list of those who receive EBT cards/mainecare, etc should be a public list. Will the BDN try to get that info and post it?.........and if it is not public, why not (if the list of CCW permit holders should be public?).

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What a great analogy, and a valid question.

So, what about it, Mr. Anthony Ronzio? If CCW permit holders' information should be made public, why not EBT recipients?

How about a map of all Maine welfare/SNAP recipients?

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Wanna read some real Bravo

Wanna read some real Bravo Sierra?

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Editor’s Note: BDN’s request for information on concealed weapons permits
By Anthony Ronzio, BDN staff
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Posted Feb. 14, 2013, at 1:31 p.m.
Last modified Feb. 14, 2013, at 2:48 p.m.

On Wednesday, the Bangor Daily News requested data from Maine police agencies regarding concealed weapons permits in Maine. I’d like to explain our thinking, and clarify our intent.

The BDN requested the records of concealed weapons permits as part of long-term reporting projects on domestic violence, sexual assault and drug abuse.

It always had been the BDN’s intent to request this information to support our reporting projects. However, the introduction of legislation to remove these permits from public records accelerated our timeline in doing so.

The BDN has never had any intention to release identifying information about permit holders, and said so in our request. We recognize how sensitive this information is, and made sure police agencies knew of this intent.

We believe the wholesale publication of permit holder information, as was done recently by a newspaper in New York, is irresponsible.

We intend to use this information about permits, along with other information sets we are gathering, to analyze possible correlations relevant to our reporting projects.

I regret the confusion our request has caused. We had hoped that by stating our intent right in our letters, we could have assuaged any concerns it could have caused.

Again, no identifying information about permit holders will be published, and no stories specifically about permit holders are planned.

Sincerely,

Anthony Ronzio

Director of News and New Media

Bangor Daily News

aronzio@bangordailynews.com

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I can't vouch for other states, but based on other 'research' I've been doing lately, I can tell you that we in Maine are under a saturation assault from left wing extremists on a scale you can't imagine.

And oh yeah, you can trust Ronzio on this; he's not like all the other liberal newspaper guys. And he can know that his and their intentions are not subject to change, ever.

Naran
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"CONFUSION"? That's what

"CONFUSION"? That's what Ronzio thinks the firestorm of criticism is all about???

If Ronzio isn't a registered Democrat, I'll eat Auntie Mabel's oldest bonnet, sans chutney.

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Meanwhile:

Todd Benoit
Vice President and Chief Operating Officer
207.990.8299
tbenoit@bangordailynews.com

or

Toll-free in Maine:
800.432.7964
207.990.8000

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As usual, please keep your communications polite, and civilized. You get more traction when you're nice than when you're nuclear.

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This is just more of the

This is just more of the "shameful stuff" those liberal commie buttheads love to do.

I hope they print our names. We are armed to the teeth, have three guard dogs, and would not really mind if a few idiots want to see if they can get our stuff.

WC

Calvin
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Hello, death threats, hiring

Hello, death threats, hiring armed security, and retaliatory "outings" of the home addresses belonging to the newspaper owners and staffers.


So when are we going to "protect" reporter's homes by standing outside with our "assault looking" rifles?
I'm ready.

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I think the peronsal

I think the peronsal addresses, phones, etc. of the Editors, reporters, of the Bangor Daily News should be outed NOW.

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Maybe they're doing this

Maybe they're doing this because readership is down and they want to increase circulation by posting the obituaries of all those who were killed trying to steal guns from the list they published.

It's not far off from the way a liberal thinks.

Naran
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Tony Ronzio has reportedly

Tony Ronzio has reportedly been at the BDN a mere month. If this is his idea of "boosting reader hits," he's barking, but not in the right vicinity. The readers are talking advertiser-boycotts, and cancelling subscriptions.

I have a feeling the owner/publisher/board won't be taking a glad view of this development.

BDN Facebook Page

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Governor Paul R. LePage

Governor Paul R. LePage released today the following statement regarding news that the Bangor Daily News is requesting the names and addresses of concealed weapons permit holders from law enforcement agencies across the state:

“If newspapers would like to know who has concealed weapons permits, then they should know the Governor has his. I have serious concerns that BDN’s request will incite fear among gun owners and non-gun owners alike regarding their safety. There is no reason why these records should be public and I encourage the Legislature to act quickly to make this personal information confidential.

As I have said, the rights of law-abiding citizens to own firearms will not be questioned while I am Governor. That is especially true for those who respect the law enough to go through the process of obtaining a permit to carry concealed.”

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I’m cretin most of the

I’m cretin most of the criminals already know where I live.

Naran
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Courtesy of Senator Douglas

Courtesy of Senator Douglas Thomas

Senate Republicans Question Newspaper’s Motive for Gathering Information on Gun Owners

The Bangor Daily News has asked every police department in the State of Maine to release the names, addresses and dates of birth of every concealed weapons permit holder within their jurisdiction. Several Senate Republicans questioned the newspaper’s motive for requesting the information and called on the BDN to withdraw their request.

Senator Gary Plummer (R-Windham) is the lead Republican on the Criminal Justice and Public Safety Committee. He said the newspaper’s request is particularly short-sighted following the national outrage that resulted from a New York newspaper publishing the names of concealed weapons permit holders in that state following the Sandy Hook tragedy. “One really has to question the Bangor Daily News’ motivation for this. They have stated that they don’t plan to publish the names of Maine permit holders. If that is the case, why do they want to gather the names? To me, this seems like a provocative action that serves no useful purpose.”

Senate Republican Leader Michael Thibodeau agreed, saying “The Bangor Daily News has long been a standard bearer for reporting on news events in Maine. But it seems to me, in this case, the paper is trying to create news, and one wonders why? I think this is beneath the BDN and they should seriously consider abandoning their request.”

Senator Doug Thomas (R-Ripley) said “What the Bangor Daily News has done is an outrage and an affront to all concealed weapons permit holders in the state, who are, by definition, law abiding citizens. I am going to do everything in my power to ensure that lawful gun owners in Maine are not harassed.”

State Senator David Burns (R-Whiting) is a former Maine State Trooper. He said, “To me, this seems like an effort to fan the flames of the national debate over gun control. I don’t see any positive result that could come from disclosing the names of people who have legally acquired their concealed weapons permit. I can see no good that could come from this.”
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Naran
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"Boycott Bangor Daily News -

"Boycott Bangor Daily News - Don't Tread on Us" - Facebook Page

Hits, comments and likes rising exponentially.

The BDN swatted themselves one very large hornet's nest, with this stunt.

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Anthony Ronzio, the BDN’s

Anthony Ronzio, the BDN’s director of news and new media

Hallowell, Maine (207) 512-8293

Anyone have his home address?

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Dateline Milo, Maine: Tom A

Dateline Milo, Maine:

Tom A Hawk 10:04am Feb 14
THIS IS WAR !!! PLEASE CONTACT YOU GOV"T OFFICIALS !! THE PUSH TO TAKE OUR GUNS JUST HIT OUR TOWNS > WENEEDTO DO SOMETHING NOW !! DO NOT SEND HATE MAIL TO MILO POLICE ! Good morning, Milo. I was greeted this morning with a Freedom of Access Act (FOAA) request from the Bangor Daily News. This request, which has been sent to every Police Agency in the State, is requesting the "names, addresses, and dates of birth" of concealed weapons permit holders maintained by the Town of Milo. I have spoken to the Maine Attorney General's Office and am informed the request is legitimate and lawful. Personally, I am opposed to releasing ANY information regarding concealed carry permit holders. I find it will create a unsafe environment not only for those who are legally permitted to have a concealed weapon, but also those who do not. As was seen in NY, an interactive map was posted on a news website which contained the same information the the BDN is requesting. There were several incidents resulting from that NY article, which included burglaries of residences listed in the article. The perpetrator of one burglary had the map in his possession when he was arrested. The interactive map was subsequently taken down after a large public outcry. Once again, while I personally oppose releasing this information to the Bangor Daily News, I am legally bound to do so and as the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the Town, I must comply with it. May I suggest you contact you local legislator or even the Governor's Office. Please refrain from making this a political bashing post. As always, I am just providing you with information I believe you have a right to know.

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I agree; we need to FOIA all the EBT holders, WIC recipients, etc, as well as FOIA the criminal records of all town residents, just for starters.

Roe v. Wade was decided based on a 'penumbra of privacy' in the Constitution, wasn't it? But exercising your 2nd amendment right doesn't carry the same right of privacy? We have HIPAA; I can't ask the Doctor about my wife's medical condition without her there.

Yet we have killed how many babies because of a right to privacy? Enough. Make public the records of all women who have had abortions, especially if any form of public funding was involved.

Ronzio used to be an LSJ biggie at one time; doubt he still lives there, but who knows. He should be outed as a 'concealed agenda' carrier.

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Good call on the EBT/welfare

Good call on the EBT/welfare information, Mel. After all, those are public funds. Why shouldn't the BDN publish a list of all Maine residents getting welfare benefits? With an interactive, neighborhood map showing each household?

Melvin Udall
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I like it...especially with

I like it...especially with the interactive map.

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So, I go away for a few days

So, I go away for a few days and come back to find 2 feet of melting snow and the BDN going off the deep end. Welcome to Maine.

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No one ever thought about

No one ever thought about this when they were giddy over MHPC Open Gov. stuff did they!

It hurts when something you like bites you in the butt !

Just got to love that "freedom of information stuff".

And I disagree w/ the BDN totally.

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I would think that those who

I would think that those who DON’T have a concealed weapons permit would be even more outraged than those who do.

Naran
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Suggestions being made online

Suggestions being made online to bring the green BDN delivery boxes back to the main office in Bangor, and leave them on the sidewalk.

Melvin Udall
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A friend in the media

A friend in the media business sent this along to Ronzio:

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Mr. Ronzio:

Today, as Editor and Publisher of Other Side Media, I am requesting the personal records of all Bangor Daily News employees, including, but not limited to home addresses, phone numbers, cell phone numbers, arrest records, medical records, voter registration, SSN’s, college transcripts, birth certificates, and any other information that would support our planned reporting projects. Any specific data we have not requested does not excuse a failure to provide it.

We are requesting these records as part of our long-term reporting projects on journalistic bias, drug abuse, criminal behavior, and any other affronts to public safety and the public trust. Please know that we will be requesting the same records from every other print media outlet in Maine.

It has always been our intent to request this information to support our reporting projects, but your request for information regarding all concealed weapons permits in Maine has accelerated our timeline in doing so.

We have no intention to release identifying information about BDN employees, nor that of any other print media outlets. We recognize how sensitive this information is, and are making sure you know of this intent.

We believe the wholesale publication of print media employee information is irresponsible.

We intend to use this information, along with other information sets we are gathering, to analyze possible correlations relevant to our reporting projects.

I regret any confusion this request might cause. I hope that by stating our intent right in our letter, we can assuage any concerns you might have.

Again, no identifying information about employees will be published, and no stories specifically about employee criminal records are planned.

Sincerely,

P. C. Poppycock
Editor and Publisher, Other Side Media

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I just sent an email to

I just sent an email to Ronzio:

......"I have a concealed carry permit, along with one of my sons. We are law abiding citizens and I have done many years of civic duty in service to my town. We have never caused one bit of harm to anyone, yet your paper has seen fit to treat us like we have leprosy or something! Shame on you.

I have read the Bangor Daily News for 50 years, but you sir, with this grand liberal "stunt" have given the straw that has broken the camel's back. This is the stupidest stunt that the Bangor Daily News has ever done, and it is resented very deeply in my home, and I suspect that I have lots of company. I think you owe an apology to all the law abiding gun owners of this state, but don't expect to see one, as you folks have no sense of shame!

I will never buy your newspaper again, and will work hard to turn everyone I know, against the paper also. I intend to boycott everyone who advertises in the BDN also. I intend to bring my green box down and throw it on the sidewalk in front of your building, when I have the chance.

I am nominating you for "a**hole of the year" too. You are a disgrace to your profession!"......

woodcanoe

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