BDN Editors: Grant Habeas Corpus to Gitmo Prisoners

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BDN Editors: Grant Habeas Corpus to Gitmo Prisoners

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Canada Leads the Way
By BDN Staff
Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - Bangor Daily News

The fundamental historic right of habeas corpus...remains under attack. The Military Commissions Act of 2006, which reinstated the denial of habeas corpus for the Guantanamo prisoners, was passed by the Senate...with Snowe not voting.

Sen. Specter introduced legislation to restore habeas corpus for the detainees. Republican senators will face a crucial decision whether to help the U.S. return to an historic constitutional guarantee or to bow again to the [White House] pressure.

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Article I Secton 9: "The privilge of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended unless [i]when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion of the Public Safety may require it."[/i]

The Sages of Bangor do not choose to address the question of Public Safety. I suppose they can detect none, or find them so slight as to be beneath consideration.

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The BDN continues on its bizarre cruise to the left. Sooner or later its readers will catch on and jump ship.

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From some accounts, they already have.

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I'm told you can credit publisher Rick Warren who ordered this course out of admiration for far-left Pinch Sulzberger, publisher of the NY Times.

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Hey, LL...

[i]Here's one to make you a jealous lawyer... don't you wish YOU could work for Shearman & Sterling... you would be right at home among these traitors.[/i]

[b][size=18][url=http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009758]Gitmo's Guerrilla Lawyers[/url][/size][/b]
[b]How an unscrupulous legal and PR campaign changed the way the world looks at Guantanamo.[/b]

BY DEBRA BURLINGAME
Thursday, March 8, 2007 12:01 a.m. EST

[quote]...their PR outreach produced literally thousands of news placements and that, eventually, a majority of the top 100 newspapers were editorializing on the detainees' behalf. Convinced that judges can be influenced by aggressive PR campaigns, Mr. Levick points to rulings in the detainee cases which openly cite news stories that resulted from his team's media outreach.

The Kuwaiti 12 case is a primer on the anatomy of a guerilla PR offensive, packaged and sold to the public as a fight for the "rule of law" and "America's core principles." Begin with flimsy information, generate stories that are spun from uncorroborated double or triple hearsay uttered by interested parties that are hard to confirm from halfway around the world. Feed the phonied-up stories to friendly media who write credulous reports and emotional human interest features, post them on a Web site where they will then be read and used as sources by other lazy (or busy) media from all over the world. In short, create one giant echo chamber.[/quote]

[i]This whole thing is long and worth reading. Next time you hear some coward whining about Gitmo and unfair treatment of "detainees", pull this column out and read it to them, as they won't have the patience to read it themselves. These unscrupulous lawyers should be sent to the mountains of Afghanistan disguised as enemy combatants... oh, wait, they [b]are[/b] enemy combatants... disguised as lawyers.[/i]

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BDN Editors: Grant Habeas Corpus to Gitmo Prisoners

Now we know where the Bangor Daily News is coming from.

Along, of course, with dozens of other daily newspapers in the U.S.

I don't know if anyone at the BDN reads the WSJ, so maybe a copy of this story should be sent to Rick Warren. He and his editors have clearly bought into this scam.

Thanks, Dist. I might have missed it.

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Bump. Just because I beleve this is an issue that needs wider attention.

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So when it suits your cause, we are al a nuch of sheep easily sawyed by a PR campaign and when it doesn't suit your cause, then we are all a bunch or shapr independent thinkers who don't buy into the media BS.

Same old BS scare tactic. Talk about an article written with twisted logic. I'm not buying it. Nobody is arguing that many of the GITMO detainess are evil people. I am certianly not questioning that but to lump ALL of them together as the same kind of people is just dumb beyond belief.

I am not sure why it is considered bizzarre and traitorous for us to not just take the word of the government that everyone in Gitmo is in fact an enemy combatant.
Unlike traditional wars where it was relatively clear who the enemy was because they had on different uniforms or were caught actively engaged against us, in this war, the enemy can apparently be anyone the governments says is one.
Many of you don't trust the government to educate your kids, spend your money wisely, etc. but have absolutely no problem with them deciding who should be locked up for an unknown amount of time.
The sad and pathetic cowboy attitude of calling any one a traitor who disagrees is more befitting of a 6 yr old than adults.

I understand that MOST of the people do in fact deserve to be there and can rot forver as far as I'm concerend but I am skeptical about whether all of them deserve to be in there but unless regular TRUE Patrioitic Americans stand up and demand answers, the fearmongers win and innocent people may continue to be locked up for years with no due process. Muslims first and then down the slippery slope when Americans start disappearing in the middle of the night because someone accused them of bening an enemey of the state. Don't think it can happen? Yeah, right.

Apparently Mr. Disturbed is not so disturbed about human rights as long as it pertains to a bunch of muslims.
J.

One other thing, the article was written by the sister of a pilot killed on Flight 77. Think she might have a little baggage and anger?

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Message To BDN Editors: Your paper sucks, and your views are treason against America. I hope your Pinko Rag goes under, so you stop wasting so many trees!

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[quote="jocko758"]So when it suits your cause, we are al a nuch of sheep easily sawyed by a PR campaign and when it doesn't suit your cause, [b]then we are all a bunch or shapr independent thinkers who don't buy into the media BS[/b][/quote]Hard to wade through the erratic spelling but if you meant what I think you said, you are again, and consistently, wrong. I would never allege you to be a sharp independent thinker who doesn't buy into the media BS.

If captured on the field (or in the neighborhood) of battle, then you rot in prison. End of story. Bleeding hearts never won a war.
[quote]Muslims first and then down the slippery slope when Americans start disappearing in the middle of the night because someone accused them of bening an enemey of the state.[/quote]It ain't fellow Americans that will cause the disappeearances... but I'm sure you'll welcome your muslim neighbors with open arms. Better set an extra place at the table.

"War is not 'the best way of settling differences; it is the only way of preventing their being settled for you."

Are you calling into question the detailed actions of Mr. Levick?

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[quote="Bob Stone"]From some accounts, they already have.[/quote]

BDN just had a pretty big layoff of reporters and such. I stopped purchasing that rag years ago. They occasionally call to get me to renew. I tell them as soon as I can read the editorial page without puking, I'll give them a call. That gets them off the line fairly quickly.

Al

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I do not read the Bangor Daily News. I encourage others to not do so also. The only redeeming factor of the BDN is its Obituary Page!

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[quote]The only redeeming factor of the BDN is its Obituary Page!
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Which is easily accessed online complete with a pretty good search tool.

Al

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habeas corpus? I had the Heebee Jebbee's once, anything like that?

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* The Wall Street Journal *

* The Wall Street Journal
* JUNE 29, 2009
New Rift Opens Over Rights of Detainees
By JESS BRAVIN

WASHINGTON -- The Justice Department determined detainees tried by military commissions in the U.S. can claim at least some constitutional rights, particularly protection against use of statements taken through coercive interrogations...

Defense Department officials warn the Justice Department position could reduce the chance of convicting some defendants. Military prosecutors have said involuntary statements comprise the lion's share of their evidence against dozens of Guantanamo prisoners who could be tried.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124623153856866179.html

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