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JIMV
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Black Powder Cartridges...

I bought a nice old .32 S&W short firing H&R top-break revolver at a local gunshow Saturday. The revolver was designed for black powder ammo so...I am trying to find some. Does anyone know where to get .32 S&W short black powder ammo (not blank)? I would pay $50 for a box if I could find some...

jeffr
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There used to be a shop

There used to be a shop called "The Old Western Scrounger" that had lots of hard to find and obsolete ammunition. I remember hearing that they sold all their inventory and equipment to someone who moved it all East a few years back. A quick search shows that there's a website here:
[url=http://www.ows-ammo.com] Link [/url]
I'm not sure if it's the same people, but it might be worth a shot. They show .32 S&W Short, maybe give them a call and see if it's loaded at a low enough pressure to be safe, or if they could set you up with some that is loaded with black powder.

Tom C
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Is that rimfire or

Is that rimfire or centerfire? .32 rimfire is a bear to find.

For centerfire I load my own, but you can buy 32 S&W short in smokeless at:

http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/4,5827.html

Check with the manufacture to see if that smokeless round can be fired in that gun. Some of the modern obsolete ammo is designed to be shot at black powder pressures. Alternativey, you could pull the bullet, dump it out and put in your own BP. Seat the bullet on the powder. I'd suggest that If you know someone with a .32 die and bullet press and experience reloading BP cartridges do it that way. Reloading is simple, but there are still things that can go wrong.

Goex has a line of BP ammo, I didn't see any 32 S&W but you might want to look for that. Note: 32 short Colt is differnet than 32 short S&W.

A note on the H&R, have them checked by a gunsmith. Some of the old top-break revolvers are not safe to shoot, it's not the safest locking system. Also, make sure that the slug has cleared the barrel after every shot, make sure there's a new hole in the target - if you're just experimenting with new rounds you loaded yourself, you might end up with a squib that would leave a slug in the barrel, and the next shot would not be a pretty thing for you or a spectator.

JIMV
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center fire...the weapon was

center fire...the weapon was not designed for smokeless. I have a few boxes of .32 S&W I bought when I could not find any S&W longs or .32 H&R magnum ammo for my other weapons after the Obama ammo famine. I am looking for a couple of boxes of .32 S&W shorts loaded in black powder...

Tom C
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Unless Goex makes them, I

Unless Goex makes them, I think you'll only find those as antique ammo which is worth too much money to shoot.

I'd think about the load-your-own route if you're uncomfortable with the smokeless rounds, even though the modern rounds are loaded for low pressure. I've loaded 11mm BP pistol rounds for a nice Bodeo revolver I came across, shooting BP in any form is a blast. Get box of 32 S&W shorts and a kinetic bullet puller. Pull the bullet and dump the cartridge out, and put in whatever amount of BP should go there. Seat the bullet on the powder and use a die that's the right diameter and someone's press to gently crimp the case. Crimp on the cannelure , revolver bullets should have a little indented ring around the bullet where the top of the case should be crimped, because revolvers naturally pull the all bullets out of the cases when fired.

Again, have the thing looked at by a gunsmith, those top-break revolvers aren't the safest things in the world when they get old, and you're talking to someone who regularly shoots things over 150 years old..

And take a friend with you when you shoot the thing so he can drive you to the hospital if you blow your hand off. Just kidding.

No, I'm not. My girlfriend insisted she come with me to the range the last time I was shooting one of my wacky contraptions. I'm about to shoot, and I look around, and she's standing off behind me about 20 years behind a tree. "What are you doing over there?" I ask. "I want to be able to call Rescue in case that thing blows up" she says. But you know, she's right, things happen.

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