Bonds for $95 million advance in Legislature

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Robert Reed
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Bravo? Seriously - if he

Bravo? Seriously - if he truly beleived bonds were wrong why not veto them and force the legislature to get the votes needed? Did I miss something here?

Mackenzie Andersen
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YES! Lepage deserves a

YES! Lepage deserves a Bravo. LePage vetoed the R& D bond and for very good reasons and refused to sign the others.BRAVO to LePage!. He deserves the credit for taking a stand. I think It is appropriate to veto the one and not support the others, leaving it up to the people to make the call on those. And he said that even if the bond is voted in his administration will not spend the money until the debt is significantly lowered- estimating several years down the road. That's not good enough for you to give him any credit? I think it is a well considered and balanced response.

Roger Ek
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It's been a bad week for

It's been a bad week for Northern Maine. First Gov. LePage signed the LURC bill on Monday and then he allowed the Land for Maine's Future bill to advance for referendum.

• LD 852, An Act To Authorize a General Fund Bond Issue To Support Maine's Natural Resource-based Economy

It is mistitled. This is just another land grab to take land out of private hands and off the tax rolls. Then the gates go up. It has been going on for decades. Well funded environmental ads will appear from now until NOvember. The greens will turn out their voters. The advancement of Land fpr Maine's Future could tip other races to the Democrats. It didn't have to happen.

Mackenzie Andersen
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It is true that he allowed it

It is true that he allowed it to go to public referendum but without his signature and with a clear message that he will vote against it. LePage vetoed only one bill leaving the others for the public to decide . His actions increase the probability of a vocal public debate. It would be less risky for those who want this bond defeated if LePage just vetoed it, but by leaving it up to the public, it will make the win a much stronger one if it has clear public support. It will send a strong message to the legislature, which is currently led by Republicans, but who would know it? So get out there and make you voice heard loud and strong !

Mackenzie Andersen
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And talking about getting the

And talking about getting the word out, Roger, check out the image I added to your guest editorial. I think it gets the message across on a viscerally intellectual level. It might make a strong campaign poster for the message and I suspect that the artist, Michael Blaze Patan of Brewer, would give permission.

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To clarify: The Maine

To clarify: The Maine Legislature is reconvening May 31 to take action, one way or the other, on the Governor's bonds rejection. Do you want your Senators and House Members to override or sustain the Governor's actions? Now is the time to call and/or write to your legislators and let them know your positions.

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LePage vetoes $20 million

LePage vetoes $20 million state research bond
By John Richardson jrichardson@mainetoday.com
State House Bureau 5/25/12

Democratic leaders criticized the governor....

"This veto is shortsighted and bad for business," Rep. Emily Cain, D-Orono, House Democratic leader, said.... "Investments in R&D have paid off. They boost business, create jobs, ...help our fisherman, farmers, ...boat builders."

...Democrats said Maine has lost more than 1,000 jobs since 2011....

"Why is the governor turning away opportunity? Blocking targeted investments in R&D will keep Maine at the bottom," said Assistant Senate Democratic Leader Justin Alfond.

http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/lepage-vetoes-_20m-state-research-bon...

Mackenzie Andersen
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As I see it the only action

As I see it the only action the legislature can protest is the veto. They can't protest the governor not signing. That's his prerogative. This seems like a brilliant PR move. The legislature's attempts to override the governor's veto play right into high profile publicity for this issue and the associated issues of the bonds that the governor just did not sign.

The quote from the Democrats (and the governor) is just rhetoric- NO facts. The `public must demand the facts. What dollars went to research and development. Who got them? The government and non-profits as the governor suggests? Did the research result in jobs in the private sector? If so show the results along with the numbers. The governor says the private sector did not see a benefit. The Democrats claim they did. And where are the Republicans on this? Time for all politicians to show their true colors.

I'll wager that one beneficiary is the Maine Technology Institute- a non-profit corporation chartered by special act of legislation that is set up to redistribute funds from non-profit and what ever sources. They then give grants to private for-profit companies in the "targeted" high tech sector. I suspect that as with other corporations chartered by the legislature by special act of legislation, you will not find MTI listed at the bureau of corporations. One must go to the legislative library to find it. Supposedly one can request information there but I requested some information a couple or so weeks ago and I am still waiting for it.

Note this non-profit corporation chartered by special act of legislation does NOT serve municipal purposes- as is required by the Maine State Constitution- so if any member of the legislature uses MTI as a source, we can assume that they support the unconstitutional charter of a corporation which does not serve municipal purposes and rest assured that the main stream media will not raise this contingent issue.

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In a way it’s nice that so

In a way it’s nice that so many of our legislators feel comfortable enough about our financial futures that they are recommending more debt for all of us. I’m with the Governor on this one. I’m more worried about our collective levels of debt especially the runaway Federal debt train. Shouldn’t we be concerned that as tax revenues continue to drop, the responsibility for certain services will be kicked down a level? This could be a good thing long term as local control is more efficient, but we should be prepared for increasing costs at the local and state levels in the near future. With rising inflation, rising energy costs and high unemployment, this is not a good time to be volunteering to increase our debt load. The burden on our fellow citizens is increasing without our help.

Aren’t the size of government and its financial burden the cause of the economic crisis facing countries all over the globe? Why add to the problem now? There is a lot of uncertainly in the world on many fronts. Let’s keep busy paring down the size/cost of government for a couple of more years and see what kind of shape we are in then before making our neighbors pay more taxes.

I don’t know if you saw this, but here is an interesting perspective on diminishing tax revenues by removing private property from the tax base. Why do we continue to borrow money on the state and federal level to remove millions of acres of private property from contributing to our economy? Apparently there must be some hidden pleasure in self-strangulation.

http://bangordailynews.com/2012/05/24/opinion/conservation-priorities-re...

Mackenzie Andersen
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Ouote from the editorial

Ouote from the editorial linked above;

For the past 30 years, preservationists have aggressively pursued land acquisition — sometimes at the expense of the taxpayer, sometimes with the support of private funding. The $126 million borrowed by Maine taxpayers, to be repaid by future generations, has been used to acquire 530,000 acres of the total 1.8 million, or roughly 30 percent. The remaining 70 percent was acquired through collaborative efforts with Maine’s land trust community.

Its a really good editorial. People should read it.

BlueJay
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And more important points

And more important points from the same excellent editorial:

"The Land Trust Alliance uses the analogy that land trusts are like snowflakes — each one is unique. I believe, in Maine, that analogy is incorrect. I believe that in Maine, land trusts are inseparable because of their collaborative efforts. Land trusts lobby collectively, share revenue and assets through grants and loans with other land trusts and other nonprofit entities, and Maine land trusts are essentially fighting the private market for land. If the Maine land trust movement were named Cargill or Monsanto, many of us would be outraged."

"As perpetual entities, land trusts qualify for property tax classifications that can significantly reduce the assessed value of trust land. Since municipal budgets still have obligations for schools, roads, corrections, etc., the tax burden shifts to individual taxpayers. Is it fair for the land trust community to ask Maine residents to add to their increasing burden of high property taxation?"

http://bangordailynews.com/2012/05/24/opinion/conservation-priorities-re...

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I don’t know what percentage

I don’t know what percentage of Federal dollars is used to support the land trusts, but here is an interesting site. http://www.landtrustalliance.org/policy/public-funding

Bob S
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In a way it’s nice that so

In a way it’s nice that so many of our legislators feel comfortable enough about our financial futures that they are recommending more debt for all of us.

Yes, let us have a big round of applause for our Republican leadership.
Kevin Raye - VOTED FOR ALL 5
Jon Courtney - VOTED FOR ALL 5

Hay Farmer, I also stand with LePage.

Hay Farmer
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I got this email from the MMA

I got this email from the MMA yesterday.

From: Moderator
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:37 AM
To: 'ebulletin@imail.memun.org'
Subject: Governor LePage's Veto of the $20 million Research and Development Bond Proposal

To: Municipal Officials interested in the State’s Bond Package

Fr: Geoff Herman

Re: Governor LePage’s Veto of the $20 million Research and Development Bond Proposal

Date: May 29, 2012

As you are probably aware, Governor LePage has decided to veto one of the five bond proposals that were endorsed by the Appropriations Committee earlier this month and given the required two-thirds support by the Legislature on May 16th. The Legislature will convene on Thursday this week (May 31) to consider overriding the Governor’s veto, which will require a two thirds vote in both chambers.

When it convened in 2011 over the subject of the appropriate borrowing package for this biennium, MMA’s 70-member Legislative Policy Committee supported a bond package very similar in composition to the three dimensional package just approved by the Legislature. To stimulate advancements in Maine’s economy, particularly in the area of the state’s natural resource-based industries, the LPC supported including a healthy component for Research and Development. Municipal officials who are supportive of this form of economic development should contact their legislators over the next 48 hours and urge them to vote to override the Governor’s veto.

The vetoed legislation is LD 225, An Act to Authorize a General Fund Bond Issue in the Amount of $20,000,000 to Fund Research and Development. Taken together, the five bond proposals approved by the Legislature make up a $96 million package: $51.5 million for transportation; nearly $8 million for water and wastewater infrastructure; $11.3 million for capital projects at Maine’s higher education facilities; $5 million for the Land for Maine’s Future program; and the vetoed $20 million research and development proposal.

More specifically, LD 225 would send out to the voters the proposed $20 million bond proposal to fund research and development and commercialization projects as prioritized by the Office of Innovation’s current Science and Technology Action Plan for Maine. The funds must be allocated on a competitive basis to Maine-based private and public institutions advancing a range of technologies including environmental and renewable energy, biomedical, aquaculture and marine, composite materials, advanced forestry and agriculture, information technology and precision manufacturing.

What follows is a link to the referenced “Science and Technology Action Plan for Maine.” The Plan was authored by the Maine Innovation Economy Advisory Board and the Maine Office of Innovation within the Department of Economic and Community Development. The information and arguments presented by the Plan for investments in Research and Development begin on page 12.

http://www.maine.gov/decd/innovation/pdfs/2010_S&T_Plan.pdf

To find out where your legislators stood on this Research and Development proposal before the Governor issued the veto, we are providing links to the House and the Senate roll call votes which provided the necessary two-thirds support in both chambers to send the proposal to the Governor’s desk.

At issue is whether the Governor’s veto will cause any of the bill’s supporters in the Legislature to change their mind.

http://www.mainelegislature.org/LawMakerWeb/rollcall.asp?ID=280039331&ch...

http://www.mainelegislature.org/LawMakerWeb/rollcall.asp?ID=280039331&ch...

Thank you for your attention to this memo.

alter ego
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Anyone got link to roll calls

Anyone got link to roll calls for all proposed bonds?

pmrmsm
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The bottom links in post 44

The bottom links in post 44 tell you which party the legislators are from and who voted Y for yes and N for no on the proposed bond issues that is being sent to referendum.

Hay Farmer
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I can only imagine why G.K.

I can only imagine why G.K. Chesterton wrote this in 1924 and I hope it is not still true.

"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives.
The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes.
The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected."
G.K. CHESTERTON, Illustrated London News, Apr. 19, 1924
http://www.notable-quotes.com/c/chesterton_g_k.html

alter ego
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Are them two links to

Are them two links to comprehensive bonds bundle? Or only to an R&D bond? -confused

pmrmsm
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the bundle

the bundle

alter ego
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the horror

the horror

Editor
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Today the Maine Legislature

Today the Maine Legislature returns to consider a bond and some bills vetoed by Governor LePage. I believe the Session is scheduled to start at 10 a.m. Both the Senate and House Sessions will be livestreamed. The Senate feed is: http://www.maine.gov/legis/audio/SenateV.html . The Hous feed is: http://legislature.maine.gov/house_video_director.asp . If you have a slow internet connection you can listen to both Sessions in real time from this link: http://www.maine.gov/legis/audio/

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Maine Senate Votes 29Y to 6N

Maine Senate Votes 29Y to 6N to Override Governor LePage Veto of R&D Bond

The House has sustained Governor LePage's vetoes on LD807 (63-77) and LD1469 (80-61).

Maine Senate Votes 26Y to 9N to Override @GovernorLePage Veto of "An Act to restructure the National Board Certification Program for Teachers"

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1:00 AM LePage releases bonds

1:00 AM
LePage releases bonds but money could take 3 years to arrive
By Doug Harlow dharlow@mainetoday.com
Staff Writer

SKOWHEGAN -- ...LePage has agreed to release voter-approved bonds for a downtown improvement project, but the money may not reach town coffers for another three years.

LePage signed a memo to State Treasurer...Poliquin committing $375,300 in bonds to the town of Skowhegan to be issued by June 20, 2015.

The governor earlier this summer ordered a freeze on $40 million in bonds, including money earmarked for Skowhegan, saying the state already was deep in debt.

http://www.kjonline.com/news/lepage-releases-bonds-but-could-take-three-...

Naran
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Wow -- a Maine state bond has

Wow -- a Maine state bond has actually been defeated. I'm amazed.

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Question 2: Higher education bond
Do you favor an $11,300,000 bond issue to provide funds for capital to build a diagnostic facility for the University of Maine System; for capital improvements and equipment, including machine tool technology, for the Maine Community College System; and for capital improvements and equipment at the Maine Maritime Academy?

Yes 331,621 48.94%
No 345,966 51.06%

http://maineelections.bangordailynews.com/

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