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zmogus
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Bottled water tax....

The Maine Sunday Telegram has a long article about the prospect of taxing Poland Spring (and others?) $1 per gallon pumped out of the Maine ground. It's ridiculous! By the same reasoning, every farmer should be charged $1 per gallon of milk he produces, all the berry growers and orchardists should be charged $1 per gallon of recoverable "juice" since that ultimately came from the ground!

Poland Spring simply said they'd go someplace else.. with their 300 Maine jobs.

Outrageous!

Dan Billings
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Bottled water tax....

Any idiot can start a referendum petition.

This one turned in just over the minimum signatures so it is not likely to make the ballot.

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Bottled water tax....

Yeah, the likelihood of this happening is small. But hey, know what? Maine needs a good dope slap like this - a high-visibility, national brand pulling up stakes because the business conditions suck. Nestle has the deep pockets to be the sacrificial lamb at this particular orgy and suck it up.

We should hope the thing gains traction.

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"national brand pulling up stakes because the business conditions suck."

Uh, Eagle Island; this has been going on for years. Textiles, leather, wood products and much of our paper industry have been driven out. Not one paper mill in Maine still owns timberland in Maine. Much of our seafood industry is gone. None of these are due to lack of resources. We have the trees, the fish, the fertile ground and the people. Augusta makes it too hard to be successful.

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[quote="Roger Ek"]Not one paper mill in Maine still owns timberland in Maine. [/quote]

That is a Wall Street decision that is not due to Maine policies. The paper companies are selling timberlands everywhere. They have made a decision that they are not in the timberland business.

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Bottled water tax....

How about a $1 special tax per gallon on Maple syrup....maybe drawing out the sap causes a drain on the aquifers of water below!!!

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Special Brain-drain tax

How about a special Brain-drain tax imposed on every legislator who proposes a new law? I think it must be worth at least $10,000 for each idea they think up, so tax them $10,000 per proposed bill. That would slow down the thought process in Augusta (if there ever was one to begin with).

Dan Billings
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How about a fee on everyone that signs a petition for a referendum that doesn't pass? Maybe people would think more carefully about what they sign. :D

cover_maine
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[quote="Dan Billings"]How about a fee on everyone that signs a petition for a referendum that doesn't pass? Maybe people would think more carefully about what they sign. :D[/quote]

Good point Dan. I remember being at the polling place in Cumberland and being asked to sign this one. I told the gatherer I didn't like the idea and asked why I should sign it: "So it can be on the ballot, that's all" was the response.

"No thanks" I passed and got funny looks from the sheeple in line waiting to sign.

Anonymous
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Just wanted to post the inevitable:

Will the last business out of the state turn out the lights.

seriously...

We're not out of the woods with this one yet folks. I will breathe a sigh of relief when this is dead and buried.

The end game with this one isn't just the water tax on big bottlers, it's the eventual tax on individual wells,

the taxing of the uses of natural resourses fits with the idea that it all belongs to all of us.

Look at the attempts this last spring with taxing non-consumptive users of the outdoors, same thought process there.

Anonymous
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I may have posted this before, but one of the anti-Poland Spring dipsticks was in front of the Skowhegan post office, asking people to sign a petition "to help save Maine's drinking water." When I reminded him that the petitition did no such thing, he stammered, grunted and simply walked away.

I sincerely hope they didn't get enough signatures, but even if they did - I doubt very much if such a referendum would pass.

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It's having an impact on business, even if it doesn't pass. Poland Spring's got its' plans for an expansion that will add 250 jobs on hold, waiting to see if this passes. The numbskull that proposed this piece of idiocy says he doesn't care if Poland Spring moves out of state.
Other businesses who might be thinking of locating or starting in Maine are looking at this in stunned disbelief. What business would want to come to a state with the open [b]hatred[/b] of business we display?

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What an opportunity for the repubs!! Post pix and email address of legislator (s) supporting this lunacy in a TV ad. Talk about your environmentally friendly industries!!

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PPH Sunday December 18, 2005:

One obstacle to growth they say they cannot work around, though, is the
proposed 20-cent per gallon water tax that may go to referendum next fall.

If this tax were to pass, Jeffery (ed. Nestle Waters CEO) said, the company would have no choice but
to end its 160-year history in Maine.

"If the tax goes through, it will be impossible to operate in the state of
Maine," he said. "I'd move the equipment and find other sources. That's not
a threat, but economically you can't run a business that way."

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Bottled water tax....

This new tax is just a trial run. They will want to tax every gallon of water bottled in Maine regardless of which product is bottled. "It would only be fair." That would apply to any Maine water used to reconstitute orange juice, soft drinks that are bottled in Maine and kids selling Kool Aid off the front lawn. It would even apply to part of Allen's Coffee Brandy. In fact, it could apply to all powdered beverages since their end use will require Maine water. Don't think this nose under the tent is the end of their greed.

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Bottled water tax....

To borrow a page from scifi, this is like something the Harkonnens would impose on the cittizens of Arrakis.

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Bottled water tax....

Correct. I would never vote for such a tax, nor would I sign a petition to even get it onto the ballot. I politely declined same on Nov. 8th.

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[quote="zmogus"]The Maine Sunday Telegram has a long article about the prospect of taxing Poland Spring (and others?) $1 per gallon pumped out of the Maine ground. It's ridiculous! By the same reasoning, every farmer should be charged $1 per gallon of milk he produces, all the berry growers and orchardists should be charged $1 per gallon of recoverable "juice" since that ultimately came from the ground!

Poland Spring simply said they'd go someplace else.. with their 300 Maine jobs.

Outrageous![/quote]

humm

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Bottled water tax....

I asked a friend of mine who is a resource economist about the proposed tax. His response is that Poland Spring is the kind of business Maine should be doing more of.

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Bottled water tax....

The tax would only open the door to water bottled in China.
.........without Baldy taking a trip!

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[url=http://news.mainetoday.com/apwire/D8EJFTFO7-352.shtml]Water tax campaign falls short [/url]

"AUGUSTA, Maine — Three months after organizers submitted petitions designed to force a statewide vote on taxing water extracted in Maine, Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap ruled Monday that the campaign had failed to file sufficient signatures.

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In the beverage business, Poland Spring, which draws nearly 500 million gallons of water per year from its wells in Maine, ranks third behind PepsiCo´s Aquafina and Coca Cola´s Dasani.

The next filing deadline for initiative petitions is Jan. 30, 2006.

On Monday, Jeffery said the company wanted to meet with state leaders before committing to any major new investment in the state."

Wonder what kind of assurances Nestle wants from state leaders.....

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Bottled water tax....

The problem is that state leaders can't keep Wilfong from starting another petition next week.

Naran
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Bottled water tax....

True, but then again, the news is still a delightful little early Christmas present.
hee hee.

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[quote="David Hughes"]
Wonder what kind of assurances Nestle wants from state leaders.....[/quote]

Probably something to the effect of 'Look - we're a clean industry, we're growing, we're a well-regarded national brand, we employ a lot of Mainers now and hope to employ more in the future. Now how about a little bit of visible public support here - instead of just letting local wingnuts run rampant?"

Dan Billings
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[quote="eagleisland"] Now how about a little bit of visible public support here - instead of just letting local wingnuts run rampant?"[/quote]

What does that mean? Limits on the referendum process?

Anonymous
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I want the news printed on recycled newsprint and a tax on every tree taken for newsprint....water goes into each tree by the gallon, so....

Maine should prohibit newspapers from being printed on virgin newsprint, ditto for inserts.

....make the PPH live up to the same environmentally correct rules it endorses for everyone else!

Anonymous
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[size=24][/size]phew!!! :wink:

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Bottled water tax....

how about a nice ludicrous tax on spaghetti? something to put mamma baldacci right out on her butt.

taxing water is the biggest crock there is. they have no right to slap a tax on water.

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Bottled water tax....

Say, you may be onto something here. Spaghetti IS commonly composed of two ingredients: semolina flour, and water.

Not to mention, one needs a lot of water in which to cook the stuff.

New tax on Baldacci Premium Pasta! $1 per box, an exclusive surcharge on all pasta consumed by the Blaine House or anyone with the Baldacci surname, to be directly deducted from JB's salary.

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Bottled water tax....

I know people like to blame Baldacci for everything, but he has nothing to do with the water tax.

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Bottled water tax....

How do you know that? Are you sure he and his minions aren't involved somewhere in this?

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