Christians Get Depressed Too

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Christians Get Depressed Too

"Depression, then, is widespread. It is in our families, our neighborhoods, our places of work, and in the church."

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Not only is it widespread in

Not only is it widespread in the church, it's widespread in among pastors, here are some chilling stats:

48% of them think their work is hazardous to their family’s well being. Another 45.5% will experience burnout or depression that will make them leave their jobs. And 70% say their self-esteem is lower now than when they started their position. They have the 2nd highest divorce rate among professions. Who are they? They are pastors. Here are some more overwhelming statistics from this article.

80% of pastors say they have insufficient time with spouse and that ministry has a negative effect on their family.
40% report a serious conflict with a parishioner once a month.
33% say that being in ministry is an outright hazard to their family.
75% report they’ve had significant stress-related crisis at least once in their ministry.
58% of pastors indicate that their spouse needs to work either part time or full time to supplement the family income.
56% of pastors’ wives say they have no close friends.
Pastors who work fewer than 50 hrs/week are 35% more likely to be terminated.
40% of pastors considered leaving the pastorate in the past three months.

Feeling dizzy? Take a breath. Here’s some more statistics:

Fifteen hundred pastors leave the ministry each month due to moral failure, spiritual burnout, or contention in their churches.
Fifty percent of pastors’ marriages will end in divorce.
Eighty percent of pastors and eighty-four percent of their spouses feel unqualified and discouraged in their role as pastors.
Fifty percent of pastors are so discouraged that they would leave the ministry if they could, but have no other way of making a living.
Eighty percent of seminary and Bible school graduates who enter the ministry will leave the ministry within the first five years.
Seventy percent of pastors constantly fight depression.
Almost forty percent polled said they have had an extra-marital affair since beginning their ministry.
Seventy percent said the only time they spend studying the Word is when they are preparing their sermons. [compiled by Eugene Cho]

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Maybe you guys can help me

Maybe you guys can help me out. I don’t belong to any denomination and never intend to. I do see a need for evangelists. My weak eyes looking through a clouded glass, it looks like pastors are glorified babysitters and doormats for the nonproductive parasites in any ½ full church. We don't mistreat any other professional that we hire in like manner, why the Pastor?

To me it is like Samuel telling YAHWAH that Israel rejects him and wants a king (Saul is in the wings). YAHWAH tells Samuel, no it isn’t you they are rejecting, it is Me.

Likewise, churches have (in my unqualified opinion) become feel good social centers that are afraid to lose donations by preaching hell hot, and sin as rebellion against a Living God. You combine that with the unholy alliance with government as becoming a 501C3 (non-prophet, my joke) social club, you hand over sovereignty of the assembly to the government’s current take on social mores. Give me an Elijah or Elisha any day! Where is Jeremiah when you need him?

If we could get people out of the beast system, sucking up to Babylon’s commerce and get them to want the clean and set apart fear of The Almighty, pastors might not have it as bad. Right now we have many people out of order in the assembly. If you really know better than the man you hired, save money and run the thing yourself.

Every man is to be the priest of his own household. It is about time that men start getting serious about knowing what is in the Bible and doing it!

Hosea 4:6
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

Welcome to the united states of Babylon 2011. This didn’t happen overnight. It started a very long time ago but the death blow was in the 1960s when YAHWAH was thrown out of school and every evil pagan devil was let in. Exodus 20 and again in Deuteronomy 5 we are given the 10 commandments. OUR LAWS WERE BUILT OFF OF THESE!!!

Read the blessings and cursings in Deuteronomy 28 and see if that matches up at all with our society. To me it has United States (10 lost tribes) written all over it. I’m not necessarily a British Israelite or anything with this new Hebrew roots movement, don’t know anything about it except I heard the name, but I study the Bible very much and would be content to be as Uriah the Hittite, stone in love with the almighty One of Israel.

I sound like a nut? OK. I am, but don’t let that distract from the matter here. We have inherited lies from our fathers. I have no way of knowing, but I have heard that in Hebrew, (guy aren’t you Jewish?), that “Hey Sus” means “the horse” and the letter have a numerical value of 666, and I can google “sus” in latin means pig or swine. In Greek, I don’t know how the world you get Jesus from Yahshuwah. Someone suggests that the Greeks figured we could call “Him” Zeus since we held “Him” in high esteem. I hear that hovah (like in Jehovah) means destruction. The letter “J” is an “I” with a hook on it and was just created in the last 600 years. There was no such thing as a “J” 2000 years ago in any language. Google that.
Sorry for the rant but this country has Laodicea written all over it and will be destroyed unless we have a repentance that did not occur in Sodom and Gomorrah. (side note: I saw some effeminate puke on you tube saying that Sodom and Gomorrah’s “sin” was that they were not hospitable to strangers. Wasn’t a thing in the world about being a sodomite. (Holy Potatoes Ralph).

Hoping you men can straighten me out, later.

Mike Beardsley
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Well said Kenny Roberts, well

Well said Kenny Roberts, well said.

You are not crazy, I'm in agreement with you. There are many false teachers, which is why I encourage people to check everything against the text of a Textus Receptus Bible (King James, Geneva, Tyndale, Luther, etc.).

Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil. It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones. - Proverbs 3:5-8 (KJV)

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thank you Mike. There are

thank you Mike.
There are many voices and opinions out there as well as there being thousands of denominations alone tells me that even sincere men seeking the truth of the matter can't always agree. I say that as a generalization noting the lack of use this message board receives.
We are all fellow travelers on the same road.

I personally use the 1611 KJV and have the e-sword software that has Strong's concordance. What is really cool is that they sent me an entire CD with all available downloads for a small donation. I have the Bible in many languages and versions.

E Sword is a free download on the computer and I wish that all had their own copy at home to study.

If all of us laymen out there were up to snuff on what we should know, we can encourage and engage the pastor rather than just sit like a bump on a log when they speak. I have the privilege of attending Bible study where two retired pastors teach in an informal setting and they seem pleased with the discussions that can be had with knowledgeable students.

Our problem as a nation is we forgot rule #1

Pro 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Mike Beardsley
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Joined: 01/26/2005 - 1:01am
I have found Blue Letter

I have found Blue Letter Bible is a good source as well, it has both Strong's for the KJV, and the Mathew Henry's Commentary. They also have I Pad and I Phone apps, but I don't use those fancy things.

I would also encourage you (and everyone for that matter) to try to get their hands on printed Bibles, Strong's and Commentaries just in case (a must for any bug out bag in my opinion).

You're right about engaging pastors, for those diligently seeking to accurately divide the word, I try to do that with grace, knowing they are human too.

However blatantly false teachers is another situation entirely, wolves need to be fended off with a stick...

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