Civil War?
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I must admit to a shameful secret: I occasionally hang out on one of the more whacked-out sites available on the net, mostly for the laughs.
Now, I'm 99.99% sure this is completely bogus and coming from somewhere WAAAAAAAAAAAAY out past Pluto, but there is reference made to an article in the European Union Times that claims that the Russians believe The One is manning up USNORTHCOM in preparation for a Civil War.
I don't believe that for one second, but my question is, does anybody have any input on the EU Times as to their credibility? Or, for that matter, has anyone even heard of it before?
Just visit Democrat Underground on the left or Free Republic on the right, there is talk of civil war all the time.
Russian Military Analysts are reporting to Prime Minister Putin that US President Barack Obama has issued orders to his Northern Command’s (USNORTHCOM) top leader, US Air Force General Gene Renuart, to “begin immediately” increasing his military forces to 1 million troops by January 30, 2010, in what these reports warn is an expected outbreak of civil war within the United States before the end of winter.
http://www.eutimes.net/2009/11/obama-orders-1-million-us-troops-to-prepa...
To the whack-job site, or to the EU article?
The site is NOT recommended for mixed company or anyone with an IQ that breaks into double digits...
Referenced article is Here
Shall I have Betsy and Auntie Mabel start taking down the portieres, in preparation for the necessary frocks?
After a quick perusal of their website, I would not rate it as a credible news source.
Re: portieres...
"Frankly, Scarlet..."
But; clearly - he did, nonetheless.
BTW - I always liked Carol Burnette's version better.
The world is a poorer place for not having Carol, Harvey and Tim to laugh with Many's the time that bunch left me gasping for breath with tears running down my cheeks.
Agreed. You can still watch many of the episodes for free, on Hulu.com - they also have most of the original Addams Family episodes, and countless other classics. COMMERCIAL FREE, too!
Just type in what you're looking for in the search bar, and have a ball.
This way, we'll all be prepared to hunker down until those rotten Confederate Rebels are through rampaging through the Maine countryside.
If the USA IS headed for a civil war, I want to secede from the union right now, and that way, I won't owe any taxes next year.
lol
I guess you can laugh about it all you want, but the fact is, people are talking about it. And those same people are fast approaching a currently unknown breaking point. Those two things all by themselves are not good.
Mr. Obama would have to be a total idiot if he did not notice that civil unrest is imminent, and a blithering idiot if he did not have a contingency plan. Where it goes from there is anyone's guess, but he DID come into office alluding to his being Lincolnesque.
I was talking to someone just this weekend about whether or not we will ever be able to undo the damage which is being done with healthcare, cap and trade, and the current looting of the treasury, and that person looked confidently into my eyes and said, "Russia did it." And so they did. Which is, additionally, why I think that the Russians know an approaching civil war when they see one.
The one thing that Mr. Obama has on his side is the fact that when it does break out, the media will have no problem reporting on fluff instead of the news, thus slowing things a bit...
I'm just curious which property lines the country will be using to separate, this time around. How do we know which side of the union to join? Should we invite the rest of the rebels to Maine?
When we run out of ink and the entitlement checks stop................watch out.
If we invite the country's rebels to gather here in Maine, it would certainly make things easier to protect and defend. However, I wonder if we can count on Canada for backup.
Betsy seems very doubtful, and she thinks Dan would agree with her.
I'm just curious which property lines the country will be using to separate, this time around.
Somewhere on this site is a discussion of exactly that, prompted by an OpEd piece from Pravda which addressed just that question. I cannot find it at this moment, but it was by, I think, a former KGB analyst who predicted that the US would divide itself up into six parts.
I am digging to try to find the piece.
I think the term "Civil War" is a misnomer, but it is probably the closest term to what I'm talking about: some sort of hybrid between civil war and revolution, perhaps?
Should we invite the rest of the rebels to Maine?
I also believe this was addressed here, though perhaps not, but there are people LEAVING Maine for places such as Montana, where presumably things will heat up early.
This is not meant as an insult, and those on this board are excluded, but Maine is the last place that any sort of rebellion -- or even protest -- would happen. For the most part, the people in Maine are content to allow the status quo continue. If you think I'm wrong, take a look at the last thirty years. Heck, the last five years.
The state turns more and more to Big Brother and for the most part, the citizenry simply accepts it.
No. Don't worry, Maine is safe. Like New York was in the Revolution.
This is not the piece I mentioned, but it is a piece about the man who made the predictions, Professor Igor Panarin, former KGB analyst, and about his predictions that the US will collapse in 2010, which he first voiced publicly in 1998.
From U.S. News, December 29, 2008:
He predicts that economic, financial and demographic trends will provoke a political and social crisis in the U.S. When the going gets tough, he says, wealthier states will withhold funds from the federal government and effectively secede from the union. Social unrest up to and including a civil war will follow. The U.S. will then split along ethnic lines, and foreign powers will move in.
From the WSJ:
California will form the nucleus of what he calls "The Californian Republic," and will be part of China or under Chinese influence. Texas will be the heart of "The Texas Republic," a cluster of states that will go to Mexico or fall under Mexican influence. Washington, D.C., and New York will be part of an "Atlantic America" that may join the European Union. Canada will grab a group of Northern states Prof. Panarin calls "The Central North American Republic." Hawaii, he suggests, will be a protectorate of Japan or China, and Alaska will be subsumed into Russia.
Holy ****.
When I started this thread I was looking for confirmation of my suspicion that the whole thing was just another case of an InnerWeb Crackpots Unanimous meeting.
Now I see serious, educated people who give every indication of being level-headed, thoughtful and well grounded in reality saying it's not only distinctly possible, it may even be inevitable.
I was largely ridiculed a few years back for saying that Life As We Know It was doomed in our lifetime, possibly in as little as 5 to 10 years. It appears that I may not have been as far off-base as I thought. I was thinking economic ruin and a slow but sure slide into Third World status. Actual Civil War seemed a bit far out.
Now I'm scared. I'm also glad that I've been putting my spare cash into precious metals...
Yeah - me, too.
.22s?
Great minds and all that....
Mine are of somewhat larger diameter however. "8^)
When I started this thread I was looking for confirmation of my suspicion that the whole thing was just another case of an InnerWeb Crackpots Unanimous meeting.
PHPaul -
I agree with your intuition that the European Union Times is a whackjob website. It appears to be a deliberately obscure, white supremacist, conspiracy theorist effort. It has no names on a masthead nor mailing address, and a search effort returns no corroborative results to establish its credibility.
Ah, but what a fascinating glimpse into the mindset of the crank! Statements like this - "Before criticizing the Japanese for not being white, I urge you to remember that Japan was a main member of the Axis Powers who signed the Tripartite Pact." - reveal a certain screwball innocence, wouldn't you say? Access to the site is free, and well worth the cost.
Glenn Beck talked about this quite a few months ago on his radio program.
Ooooooooo, I feel warm and fuzzy all over...
This is not meant as an insult, and those on this board are excluded, but Maine is the last place that any sort of rebellion -- or even protest -- would happen. For the most part, the people in Maine are content to allow the status quo continue. If you think I'm wrong, take a look at the last thirty years. Heck, the last five years. The state turns more and more to Big Brother and for the most part, the citizenry simply accepts it.
Maine will be a nice place from which to watch the upcoming events.
...Maine will be a nice place from which to watch the upcoming events.
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If it happens on the scale I suspect it might, I don't think anybody anywhere will be sitting on their duff and just watching it.
We are all of us absolutely dependent on modern communications. If that breaks down, your folding money won't be worth the paper it's printed on, your bank account will disappear and we will effectively be on a barter economy. Not to mention the National Grid (electricity) and interstate transportation of goods.
It could get seriously ugly virtually over night.
Hey - where's JIMV?? This thread is right up his alarmist alley.
:)
Civil war no, breakup of the US, no, Civil unrest certain, police state certain, insurgency certain
Michelle makes a good point. Many Maine residents will look to Augusta or DC for salvation, the rest of us are better prepared for disruption of basic services.
Anyone living north of Augusta should really consider what would happen in the event of any emergency. There are many situations where food and fuel will not be delivered up here. A sudden spike in energy could cause such a disruption of services. I'd rather be in a rural area dealing with food and fuel challenges than becoming prey in an urban area.
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PHPaul - could you kindly provide a link to the site you mentioned above?
Thanks.