Could the Republicans Bring the Death Penalty Back to Maine?
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I was wondering what it would take to bring the death penalty back to Maine. Would it simply be a bill that could be passed and signed into law, or does the state Constitution need to be changed?
Dear Senators and Representatives,
Drill, drill, drill, fix the insurance, let me hunt on Sunday, stop worrying I will hurt myself with a firecracker and bring back sparky the electric chair!
1 down, several to go. Yeah team!!
I do not support secret, hidden events where they “put the condemned to sleep” before the execution.
Public hangings are much more appropriate.
We never had the electric chair in Maine.
Wm jas that is what we had in Maine.
One small sticky point is that capital punishment is in direct conflict with the New Testament. Although, I often feel as if our justice system is more concerned about those who commit crimes than the victims, I try very hard to not let emotion cloud my thinking. But I get the emotion...I really do.
The bible justifies the taking of like in many instances.
“Thou shall not kill” is not a correct interpretation.
“Thou shall not murder” is correct.
There is a big difference.
Apollo, since it is Republicans you hate, why don't you ask if Democrats can bring back the electric chair?
If I have mis-interpreted your thoughts here then perhaps a revision of the thread subject would be in order.
"I personally have always voted for the death penalty because I believe that people who go out prepared to take the lives of other people forfeit their own right to live. I believe that that death penalty should be used only very rarely, but I believe that no-one should go out certain that no matter how cruel, how vicious, how hideous their murder, they themselves will not suffer the death penalty."
- Lady Thatcher
With Maine investing in unreliable wind power, is the electric chair the way we want to go? We could have someone strapped in the chair for days, waiting for the wind to blow. They might need several last meals. In an effort to maintain a low carbon footprint, maybe we should drown them?
I would disagree with you on that Spin.
Rom 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
The Old Testament was never done away with, the laws were fulfilled in the God/man Jesus, but God had stated that if a man sheds innocent blood, by the hand of man his blood is also to be shed.
Gen 9:6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
Refusing to employ the death penalty is actually anti-Biblical.
Mr. Travers,
I was concentrating on the correct approach to capital punishment rather than the Marxist sociology approach taught in Orono and completely missed your post. That is funny. thank you.
Public hangings are much more appropriate.
My grandparents met at a public hanging in Cuba. Turns out they were on the same cruise ship, and got together on the return voyage. I used to love listening to them tell the story when I was younger since it's a pretty bizarre way for two people to meet.
I say hang them high or just shoot them, whichever is cheaper, I don't care about how much they 'suffer'. And I'm really not concerned with what any book says, no matter which religion it's from, I am not a sheep to be led around by anyone or anything. If an individual has committed a crime so heinous they can no longer be allowed back into society, they should be put to death and removed from it permanently. It's really a simple concept.
Maine abolished the death penalty in 1887, long before the moral leprosy of liberalism has taken hold. I have no objection to the noose, the firing squad, the gas chamber, the Hot Squat or lethal injections, if judiciously applied, but I'm a traditionalist and its part of Maine's traditions to store murderers in the hoosegow.
Texas has a different tradition. And I approve of that as well.
“Thou shall not murder” is correct.
There is a big difference.
In Hebrew, the word for murder is the same as the word for slander. The Good Book doesn't leave it up to the judicial branch of government. It is up to us.
"If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, THERE SHALL BE NO GUILT FOR HIS BLOODSHED." Exodus 22:2
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I come not to send peace, but the sword.” Matthew 10:34
"...and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one"
Luke 22:36,
“And they said, ’Lord, look, here are two swords.’ And he said to them, ‘It is enough.”
Luke 22:38
"Lord, shall we smite them with the sword? `Suffer ye thus far.' "
Luke 22:49-51
"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace."
Luke 11:21 (Jesus said)
“But Moses said to the sons of Gad and to the sons of Reuben, "Shall your brothers go to war while you yourselves sit here?” Numbers 32:6
Calvin, I'm not anti Republican, I meant the thread title as a serious question. But I'll change it to say "death penalty".
Maine abolished the death penalty in 1887, long before the moral leprosy of liberalism has taken hold.
I did not know that..I thought it was much later...Even IF the republicans brought it back it would be overturned in a citizen's veto..Mainers don't have the stomach for it barring some sensational murder spree and even then , like California , it wouldn't happen as liberal judges would let it drag it out for decades...Nice thought though...
Kenny:
I'm not trying to be argumentative, and you know from previous topics that I do struggle with this stuff. But can you look into your heart and say, yes, The Lord Jesus Christ would be perfectly okay with throwing the switch?
I do not know the answer, but my gut tells me that as a Christian, it's not something I could support. But I also agree that there is all sorts of gray space with very black and white scenarios. I don't have a problem with the Navy Seals taking out bin Laden, so perhaps I am the hypocrite.
I honestly don't know the answers. I believe in harsh punishment. I belive actions have consequences, but I also believe that the death penalty takes our society a notch or two down the scale of civilization.
If it were a referendum question, I'd vote against it. But I seem to be in the minority, at least here...
Original question answer:
Yes they could ,would they and why not becomes the rest of the story. But they could.
But can you look into your heart and say, yes, The Lord Jesus Christ would be perfectly okay with throwing the switch?
Yep. He is the One who gave Moses the Law. The death penalty extended way beyond murder. Adultery, false prophets, witch craft/sorcery, there were many reasons that YHWH did not want the Hebrew children contaminated. The mission that Jesus was on at the time of His earthly ministry was that of Isiah's "Suffering Servant". He came to be put to death to reverse the rebellion started by Adam and Eve.
He is returning as King of Kings and The Lion of The Tribe of Judah. There will be harsh penalties handed out.
I'm not a religious person. The Bible is a historical record of facts. Those who desire not to believe that is OK with me but calling me religious is not an accurate assessment.
Even though I wouldn't mind seeing some people executed--Charles Manson, for one, and I would volunteer to shoot the juice to Mumia Abu Jamal--I would rather not see it in Maine. For one thing, as others have pointed out, it's not the way we traditionally do things here, and there is no compelling reason to change that. Also, modern executions are unbelievably and unreasonably expensive, so we might not save much money vs life imprisonment. Lastly, and most importantly to my mind, the judicial system sometimes makes mistakes. A person unjustly imprisoned my be released; someone unjustly executed can only get an official, "Sorry about that, Chief."
YOu cannot drown them, might end up getting stuck in the dam turbines making water power..oh wait, we've undone dams for the salmon to run...never mind...
The death penalty is available for certain crimes over which Title 18 USC applies. If Mr. Popkowski had succeeded in murdering the Medical Director at Togus, it could have been applied to him.
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I believe statutorial change would have to be done only as there is nothing totally unconstitutional about doing it!
The cost alone of multiple appeals is one of many factors that would impact on it! All other factors aside there are a limited number of cases that desparately deserve the sanction and maintaining a person for a long time is not justice.
Maine has an inmate who has committed at least 5 homocides convicted of two and probably a 6th who has cost the taxpayers hundeds of thousands in medical care alone .
While as good as our system is life w/out release is still not enough IMHO.
For the really extreme cases there is one sure result they never kill again.