Arizona Immigration Laws - Criminals are leaving in droves, Oh The Humanity......
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scores of illegal immigrant families across Phoenix hauling the contents of their homes into the yard this weekend as they rush to sell up and get out before the state law takes effect on Thursday...100,000 unauthorized migrants left Arizona after the state passed an employer sanctions law three years ago requiring companies to verify workers' status...(56)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_usa_immigration_arizona
MSM media fashion, they make the criminals out to be the victims and then cite how LEGAL RESIDENTS are fleeing because of the law. If the MSM media would stop parroting the democrat talking points and tell the truth about the law, the legal residents would be perfectly fine.
Yes, I can't see how illegal immigrants leaving is a bad thing. Why would you want so many people with no respect for the law living in your community?
I'm starting a fund to provide bus tickets to Malibu Beach to any and all illegal immigrants. No risk of prosecution and of the ruling class libs support them, let them SUPPORT them.....
Then again, liberals banned the riffraff from their beaches, so who knows....
The City of Malibu, joined by entertainment mogul David Geffen – Geffen is the “G” in Dreamworks SKG movie studios and in 2002 he was worth $3.8 billion, the 44th richest man in the United States –filed suit against the Coastal Commission, the Coastal Conservancy, and the non-profit group Access for All, seeking to cut off the people’s right to reach the beach.3
Where are they all fleeing to, California? Well, California said they wanted to "boycott" Arizona, so I'm sure they will be happy to take the hundreds of thousands of new illegals into their own bankrupt state.
My understanding is they are heading to various sanctuary states and Maine could be one of them.
Maybe john and libby could use some of the newly re-energized rainy day fund to purchase plane tickets for those who would like to come to Maine.
Don't let la puerta hit you in el culo!
Anti-Illegal Immigration Group Calls for 'Safe Passage' of Illegals Out of U.S.
An anti-illegal immigration group is calling on the Obama administration to ensure a smooth exit for illegal immigrants who are trying to leave the U.S. due to the weak economy and Arizona's strict new immigration law.
Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC) is urging U.S. citizens to pressure the [US Government] to establish "safe departure" border checkpoints along the U.S. border for illegal immigrants so they can leave without fear of [dention/prosecution] for immigration crimes.
Posted: May 27
Court upholds Arizona employer law
The high court says states retain the authority to sanction businesses who hire unauthorized workers.
The Associated Press
WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court upheld an Arizona law ...that penalizes businesses for hiring workers who are in the United States illegally....
By a 5-3 vote, the court said that federal immigration law gives states the authority to impose sanctions on employers who hire unauthorized workers.
Justice Breyer dissented:
Breyer said the law upsets a balance in federal law between
dissuading employers from hiring illegal workers and ensuring that
people are not discriminated against because they may speak with an
accent or look like they might be immigrants.
Employers "will hesitate to hire those they fear will turn out to lack the right to work in the United States," he said.
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Not if the prospective employees have proof they're here legally. If they do, then hire them.
That question should be asked upfront, and Arizona is on the right path with this law.
You are aware that these are two entirely different laws, right?
Arizona is on the path to oblivion with this law. But then so is the USA with the ridiculous, and frankly racist immigration laws we have unconstitutionally imposed on the populace since the 1870's.
AID writes: Yes, I can't see how illegal immigrants leaving is a bad thing. Why would you want so many people with no respect for the law living in your community?
You mean laws like the Patriot Act, Real ID, Fed control of food, gun control, the War on Drugs, Affirmative Action, Universal Building Codes, requiring a Passport to have lunch in St Stephen, mandatory auto inspections, capital gains taxes on paper dollars inflated by the Fed, Federal license requirements for your home, etc etc etc.
Anyone who "respects" the current laws of the United States is no friend of Liberty.
Now Governor Chris Christie, April 2008: “Being in this country without proper documentation is not a crime,” Christie told more than 60 residents and town officials. “The whole phrase of ‘illegal immigrant’ connotes that the person, by just being here, is committing a crime.”
“Don’t let people make you believe that that’s a crime that the U.S. Attorney’s Office should be doing something about,” he added of entering the country without papers. “It is not.”
As a Federal Prosecutor, I suspect he actually knows the law, unlike so many here on AMG.
Thras,
Lately, I have to say, I have found many of your posts discouraging. But with your post above, you are one of the very few who speak on this issue from a true liberty perspective. Bless you!
It is a federal crime to enter the country (if you are not a US citizen) without proper documentation/authorization. While I don't recall the specifics, punishment includes the opportunity for incarceration and/or deportation. I served five years as a US Immigration Inspector. At one time in my life, I was very well versed on the details of the law...but that was about 30 plus years ago.
It is also a federal crime to be in the country illegally (if you are not a US citizen and did not enter the country in a lawful manner, or if you are a legal visitor to the country and have either overstayed your visitor's visa or have violated other US laws or are working in this country on a visitor's visa that does not permit you to work here).
The above generally describes federal crimes, which are prosecuted by the US Attorney's office. Happens every day...the violations and the prosecutions...incarcerations...deportations.
The term "illegal alien" derives from the alien (not a US citizen) being in our country illegally. That is a federal crime. To call this anything less, or to ignore it, does a disservice to all US citizens and all aliens in this country who have done what is necessary to be here legally.
It is a civil violation, like a parking ticket. There is no incarceration, unless you have been previously deported, which is a whole 'nuther animal. To hear some of the folks on here, it is right up there with murder.
It is also unjust, unconstitutional, economically crippling and in direct contravention of US national interests. Please look into the demographic reality. Western Civilization is doomed by feminism and the ethos of recreational sex, and the low birth rate is counteracted in the US solely by the hispanic influx. One in every 12 babies in the US is born to an undocumented (and employed!) worker, and without them we would already be contracting in population. As it is, we are still aging dramatically, and with a Welfare State bankruptcy on the near horizon, the last thing we need are more elderly "recipients" of taxpayer largess.
The people coming over the southern borders are healthier, less inclined to criminal activity, more likely to serve in our armed forces with distinction, much less likely to seek an abortion, harder working and more family centric than the native born population. Our demonizing them retards their assimilation in our society, and is very detrimental to our prospects for surviving the unprecedented demographic collapse now gripping the West in a seemingly irreversible death spiral.
Europe would be lucky to have them. We should be glad to get the sort of people who risk their lives to come here and work.
Michelle - yes, I know they're two different laws. However, the thread is on Arizona, and immigration. So, I parked it here.
Thanks.
Dear Naran,
The very interesting Constitutional analysis by john w k (and my boffo response:-) did not make it to the new thread:(
John w k had some of the actual statements by the Founders surrounding the naturalization clause of the Constitution, which many today are unaware of. Any chance of getting those posts transferred to this post, now that you have combined them?
Thras -- please feel free to employ all the cut-and-paste behavior in which you care to indulge.
:)
The other thread has reappeared on my computer! I blame Bill Gates. Or maybe Joe Biden is just playing with the internet kill switch....
Naaah -- it was the POTUS, I'm sure of it.. someone figured out the British national anthem was playing at the wrong time, and when they hit the switch, it socked the Web a good one.
:)
Or maybe Joe Biden is just playing with the internet kill switch....
Or an itchy trigger finger, perhaps.
The people coming over the southern borders are healthier, less inclined to criminal activity, more likely to serve in our armed forces with distinction, much less likely to seek an abortion, harder working and more family centric than the native born population. Our demonizing them retards their assimilation in our society, and is very detrimental to our prospects for surviving the unprecedented demographic collapse now gripping the West in a seemingly irreversible death spiral.
Please tell me you were drinking when you wrote this...
Re: the "death spiral", why do you think we're in one? I contend it's due to the illegals who come here and are the exact opposite of what you posted. I also ask you to prove each one of your points because I contend they just aren't true.
Arizona’s illegal-immigration law heads to Supreme Court. Will justices strike it down?
By Liz Goodwin | The Lookout – Mon, Apr 23, 2012
....On Wednesday, the federal government and Arizona will face off at the Supreme Court, where Justice Department lawyers will try to convince the court that the law is an unconstitutional invasion into the federal government's turf.
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Mitt Romney and other Republican candidates ...blasted the Obama administration for suing Arizona in the first place.... Justice Elena Kagan has recused herself from the case because she was solicitor general when the government first filed suit against Arizona. .....
Posted: 10:30 AM
Updated: 12:17 PM
High Court rejects parts of Ariz. crackdown on illegal immigrants
The Associated Press
WASHINGTON — ....snip
...upheld..."show me your papers" requirement that police check suspects' immigration status. .... provision could be subject to additional legal challenges.....removed ...teeth by prohibiting officers from arresting people on immigration charges.
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Scalia....caustically described Obama's ....plans to ease deportation rules for some children ...
"The president said.... new program is 'the right thing to do' in light of Congress' failure to pass .... Immigration Act. Perhaps... though Arizona may not think so. But to say, as the court does, that Arizona contradicts federal law by enforcing applications of the Immigration Act that the president declines to enforce boggles the mind," Scalia said.
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The petulant, childish and vindictive Obama administration has orders that say...
"The Obama administration said Monday it is suspending existing agreements with Arizona police over enforcement of federal immigration laws, and said it has issued a directive telling federal authorities to decline many of the calls reporting illegal immigrants that the Homeland Security Department may get from Arizona police."
What can I say about a President of the US who breaks laws, defies and defiles the Constitution and refuses to enforce legally required laws and then stoops to this petty response just like the school yard bully he is.
And they have opened a 'hotline' where people can call if they think their 'civil rights' have been violated. Wanna guess that line will be answered?
The discussion between SCOTUS, the Solicitor General and the Arizona Attorney General was fascinating. I listened to much of the hearing last night, on CSPAN.
Mark Levin observes that this ruling invalidates sanctuary city and state decrees.
And states deciding to give in-state tuition. Same thing.
The Obama decision to refuse most immigration calls from Az and the hotline matters have disappeared totally from the news. I checked the Portland Progressive Herald (PPH)and the Basically Democratic News (BDN) and found nothing about it this AM.
Our local media is too busy publishing the fourth version of "Summers Bad, King Good."
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I'd hate to be a landlord in that state.
There must be tons of vacant rental property now with nobody to rent it. Stay tuned for another wave of foreclosures as landlords cant find renters and make the mortgage payments.