Moderator's Note: I have embedded it, Stavros. -- Michelle
Give Eric Cartman a gun, a badge and a union and see what happens.
I tried to embed the video not sure what i did wrong.
I had my peace disrupted in a large shopping center by a flash mob and wish I could do to them what the cops did. :)
Okay, the cops overreacted but the entire flash mob phenomenon is intrusive and invades people's space. There is room to teach civility to young anarchists, too.
Vic, this is one of the folks in the video. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Charles_Kokesh
In 2010,[former US Marine] Adam Kokesh attempted to unseat Democratic representative Ben Ray Luján in New Mexico's heavily Democratic 3rd congressional district running as a libertarian-oriented Republican.
I saw the video, but I didn't see the mob. Curious and curiouser.
This outrageous attack occurred on a journalist covering Joe Biden's appearance in New Hampshire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GqaUfaFLg4
Sooner or later, we are all going to have to reluctantly conclude that we are now living in a fascist police state.
That was disgusting....not only did I not see what anyone did wrong, but the strong arm tactics used to escort people out was very unprofessional. Maybe they should have asked people to leave instead of manhandling them. That video is just embarrassing. If we are not already in a police state we are heading in that direction.
When you are more afraid of the police then the people they are arresting, we have a problem.
How about abusive elected officials? Citizens are going to be noisy and protest at meetings when a board takes an unpopular stand - especially when there is no public comment on the agenda. But is that reason for the Selectmen to call the Sheriff's Department midway through a meeting to have a uniformed deputy stand at the door staring at the audience?
Indeed...As I and others have been saying for awhile...The increasing "confrontational" attitude of the police is VERY disturbing to say the least..Couple that with "safety checkpoints" and other police state crap we are looking more like the old Soviet Union everyday...It must stop...
Is it really illegal to videotape in the Memorial? Or is that just one of those things that the Park Police -- a federal agency -- made up on the spot in the tradition of King George's soldiers?
Disturbing. But even more disturbing is the question of how many times this sort of thing happens throughout the day but is NOT on Youtube?
I fail to see what harm these people were doing. Some flash mobs are inspirational.
The beginning of stravos vid
You make me feel like dancing
A bunch of puerile self-absorbed idiots. Although the police over-reacted, these jerks don't get my sympathy.
That's right Vic they were told once, why if there weren't cameras there the park rangers would have really given them their just desserts
They don't get my sympathy either. My sympathy is for the American people that have allowed this type of abuse of power to occur just because they may not like the people being abused.
If nothing is done about stuff like this we shouldn't be surprised when someone takes a punch at or a shot at one of these bullies in the future.
These thugs need to be made an example of by their superiors before they are made an example of by the public.
First they came for the self absorbed puerile idiots and I did not speak out, because I was not a self absorbed puerile idiot ...
State Slaps Down Libertarian Idiots! How dare people dance?
This was an organized, albeit small, dance protest.
How many of you have written to Olympia, Chellie, Mike and Susan to reccommend a law change?
http://www.nps.gov/search/index.htm?query=dance&sitelimit=&query_tmp=dan... Now, I can IMAGINE a set of rules based on the concept of government speech (see Muralgate) that might allow prohibition of dancing. I just haven't seen any actual rule, which is also a problem for enforcers of a nonrule.
I guess I'll have to look at the Circuit Court opinion.
Oh there is a rule against dancing
Watch this takedown, utube is just full of these videos, no wonder the cops don't want anyone videoing them, can you imagine how many are missed by the cameras
The brutality of the police appears to have reached epidemic proportions and they are just getting started.
There has been a slide from the old days of Peace Officers and public servants to now law enforcement officers and officials as though we are no longer a free people, but have become cattle owned by the government.
It still rubs me the wrong way to see a cop in BDUs as the photo last week of Bangor PD at a robbery scene or whatever. It was in the city, inside a building and absolutely ridiculous for some cop to want to play army dress up to investigate a crime.
Now that the criminal element has caught on that people are required to submit to hooded terrorists who break down their door without a search warrant because it is the police conducting a legal home invasion, criminals don't have to find a generic cop outfit and put a magnetic blue light on their junky car to impersonate a cop, all they need is a machine gun and a ski mask.
Knowing that it is a 50/50 flip of the coin as to whether it is the cops or some other criminal breaking down your door at 2 AM, I suggest the cops think about it.
I am not against the police at all, without them we have total anarchy. I supported them quite vocally right here when they faced the blazing assault rifle of that 7 year old gun moll in Detroit when she tried to prevent them from arresting that murderer she was harboring in her home.
The URL above is more concerning than a push. An interesting bit is the presence of a sargent on the scene. What (if anything) did he do to rein in his subordinate? Let's see what happens next.
PS: It doesn't sound like a "whitewash", does it?
The brutality of the police appears to have reached epidemic proportions and they are just getting started.
And people were railing against Tom C for his views? Huh, wonder if stuff like this is why he has those views.
I'll tell you what, ANYONE comes busting in a door to my house in the middle of the night wearing a ski mask is going to lose a life. Period. I might as well, but that hasn't changed now, has it. So what has...
....food for thought.
I grew up in a law enforcement household, with the whole family in the profession. Nothing like this was condoned then, yet we're expected to just submit now? I don't think so.
What's in the water in Phoenix?
The mother called 911 believing that the police would help solve a domestic situation, that was a big mistake and not just in this one isolated incidence, so many more. The mother who's daughter got slammed into the wall and pavement did the same thing called 911. These people need to know that life is not a segment of the Cops show
Do not call 911 unless you personally know who will be showing up to help you with a domestic situation, the police are not there to help you solve your family squabbles. They will show up and may arrest the whole bunch of you and worse there may be a pit bull in a uniform.
15 man SWAT team busts down door of education loan deadbeat
but wait, she doesn't even live there any more.
"Mr Wright was later told by Stockton police that the order to send in the SWAT team came from The U.S. Department of Education who were looking for his estranged wife to collect defaulted loan payments." snip end
The husband just wants a new door and an apology? I would be filing a law suit against the feds
more police abuse and lies, how do you put "allegedly" in title
"It still rubs me the wrong way to see a cop in BDUs as the photo last week of Bangor PD at a robbery scene or whatever. It was in the city, inside a building and absolutely ridiculous for some cop to want to play army dress up to investigate a crime."
Again with the clothes. Most of the "issues" posted on AMG have involved officers in standard uniforms. It isn't the clothes, its the training, and the guy behind the badge. In the Popkowski assault on Togus, for example, one officer was in standard uniform - the Togus fed cop. The rest were in kind of a hodgepodge of training attire. AFTER Popkowski was justifiably shot, the MSP tac team sweeps the woods, and does so in (huge surprise) woodland camo. They fire no shots, arrest no persons, and leave.
Yup - must be the clothes.
(By the way, if it IS the clothes, aren't the Hutaree militia all presumptively guilty?)
So if it's not the clothes, would you suggest dressing up in full camo and walking downtown Portland? I'm willing to bet the person who does it will be detained for questioning.
It's not about the clothes, it's about the appearance. Their appearance sends a visual message to the general public, and conveys a message, one which alarms some people. If the clothing isn't relevant, how about we dress some policemen in baggy jeans sitting below their butt, with tatoos and colored mohawks. What message do you think that would send?
Police uniforms are designed not only to be functional, but to convey a message of professionalism. It says "Hey. I'm not some schlep on the street, I'm a professional law enforment officer", and most wear it with pride. The visual message of BDU's (Battle Dress Uniform, aka: camo) conveys the message the person is not a professional law enforcement officer, but rather a trained soldier, which is much different. BDU's are designed to camoflague the wearer to make them harder to spot in the terrain for which they were designed, none of which was an urban environment. So what is the purpose for wearing them in such an environment, if not to convery a particular message to the general public?
Appearance is absolutely relevant to the message they convey, how can it not be?
Police donning camo has its place, I'm not saying it doesn't, but only for the place it is relevant.
Not all cops wear "the clothes". Tac team guys wear regular uniforms, or plainclothes, unless on a Tac Team call. By the way, I have worn camo in downtown Portland and not drawn much attention. Between expanded archery and duck season (Sept through January) and Turkey season (May), there are lots of reasons to dress that way.
The major problem is that the badguys don't make appointments stating their armament, disposition and plans. Sometimes they hide. Shoot from ambush. It is ineffective to say "hold that thought" and run to the car to arm and armor up. If command believes there is a strong possibility there will be shooting, they call the Team, who wear combat gear. Where people shoot back and forth at each other, that is, by definition, combat.
Of course, you have to be prepared to NOT shoot. I posted a bunch of "they didn't shoot" stuff a while back. The murder suicide was the latest in line. All the shooting done by the dead guy.
Botched Paramilitary Police Raids:
An Epidemic of "Isolated Incidents"
"If a widespread pattern of [knock-and-announce] violations were shown . . . there would be reason for grave concern." —Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, in Hudson v. Michigan, June 15, 2006.
An interactive map of botched SWAT and paramilitary police raids, released in conjunction with the Cato policy paper "Overkill: The Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids," by Radley Balko.