Disgusting abuse of power
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She hasn't been charged with anything.
charlie
True.
My bad.
But, no matter how many high mucky-mucks have their panties in a bunch right now, I don't see her walking away unscathed.
Harlem ain't what it used to be since Slick Willie opened his "office" there.
I'm dated, but when I think of Harlem I think of the swinging 1920s and 1930s, the Apollo Club, crazy dancing and wild jazz.
Is that racist?
Only if you think white folks can't dance.
When I think of Harlem, I remember the hookers, drug dealers, thieves, scam artists and junkies that were the norm there in then 70s and 80s when I made deliveries at the Hunts Point Terminal Market.
It sure was quite an eye opening experience for a young farm boy from rural northern Maine.
I often wonder what Bill Clinton saw there to want to open an office in that same neighborhood.
Or maybe I know ...........
If I remember correctly, it was his second choice and he was shamed into it.
Gee, I guess if there wasn't a vidoe, we could just take the officer's word.
Funny how when that video turns up the cops turn out to be a bunch of liars.
Anyway, her horrible crime? Talking on the cell phone while driving. Gee that wasn't even a crime a few years ago, now it comes with a free police beating.
The payoff? After beating the cr@p out of this broad, catch the fist-bump the cops give each other afterwords.
OK, now tell me this entire industry isn't corrupt.
was it alex from clockwork orange
DA refuses to prosecute off-duty cop in shooting.
Feds have to step in:
Federal authorities took over the case after the Los Angeles district attorney's office declined to prosecute Itkowitz in 2010, despite concluding that his account of the shooting was “patently inconsistent” with video footage captured by a wall-mounted security camera in the alley.
Deputy U.S. marshal indicted in off-duty fatal shooting
And this is why it's a waste of time to wait for the DA to handle these cases. Why should a DA who works FOR THE GOVERNMENT be trusted to decide on the liability to the public of the actions of that very same government? It's absurd, and it's why it doesn't work.
And again, the video shows the police to be liars. I have no doubt that if the video of the Erik Scott shooting hadn't vanished, those cops would be doing time.
Shai Lierley would disagree, and his 911 call (recorded) backs him up. Moreover, the public lies a lot.
http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/story/19401779/video-exonerates-police-in...
At one point in the video, O'Leary refuses to get up and the officer's frustration is obvious -- but it was about to get worse. Once she was in the back of the squad car, O'Leary accused the officer of rape and biting her breast.
"I want a rape kit," O'Leary told paramedics who arrived by ambulance.
Yet, the video shows absolutely nothing happened.
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It isn't news when the public lies about the cops, is it?
Jo Woodworth -
Thank you for your unique mother-of-cop perspective post on the previous thread page. I think if news reporters focused globally, daily on the foibles of toll takers they could come up with enough stories to make us all wary of driving toll roads. Law enforcement on any given day mixes a police officer paid to enforce the law against the absolute dregs of society. Throw in pathologies, deadly weapons, drugs, killer dogs, speeding motor vehicles, the odds on news reporters getting facts wrong -- all with the ever present margin of error -- and how tough is it to find a cop-makes-mistake story?
It might make an interesting AMG experiment. Take a profession we all think benign and see how many negative stories about that profession we can find searching the worldwide web.
Best,
skf
"This physical realm is unknown, and dangerous phenomena might arise…Any physicist will tell you that there is no way to prove that generated black holes will decay. The consequences of being mistaken are unfathomable. This subject deserves serious unbiased discussion".......I hope this was the jest of your comment.
I am pretty dense when it comes to compliments or sarcasm.
There are many mistakes made in every aspect of a job. Why people hold policemen 100% accountable is beyond me. MOST do thier very best at thier job. I remember my son calling me feeling really bad he had pulled over an older couple for doing a U-turn right in front of him so he had no choice but to pull him over. The man was so flustered, he couldn't get his car started after my son gave him a ticket so my son called a tow truck and was sitting in his patrol car behind them so they would not be hit from behind in traffic......I agree 100% that there are many A-holes who wear a badge and get off on the power but most are just good guys, trying to make a difference. I can say that with confidence b/c I know my son and the morals and work ethics that his father and I instilled in him. But I have heard his bad stories about other cops too.
My big thing is this: Why must we look at a cop, any cop, and immediately get defensive and think they are jerks? Why do they never get the benefit of the doubt? EVERYONE loves to bash cops......I just don't understand that mentality....I know, Kent State, Rodney King, sure, those don't help but why should every man or woman who puts on a uniform instantly turn into a "dick" b/c of past poor judgements laid down by bad cops?????
I know that the way they are trained to behave in situations does not help explain my quandary but they go into every situation like it could be life or death. They don't care about how you feel about them, they just want to save lives and protect the public and they will do that at all costs, even thier own life.
It is just really hard for me b/c I am a mother of a policeman and I respect his job and every job of every officer that I meet. I am glad to know that they are only human, just like me, that they make mistakes, just like I do but their goal is to be the best they can be at all times. When my son first started, we had lots of talks about his live/death situations. I remember telling him that no way should he be laying his life down for some low-life crack head scumbag. He told me, "Mom it doesn't work that way. I swore to protect everyone and that is what I have to do, even the low-life crack head scum bags I take to the hospital."
In my opinion, if we could respect our law enforcement like they were respected 25 years ago, things would be much better in our communities and our country. I just think it is this lack of respect for authority from our children to ourselves that fuels an ugly fire of hatred for law enforcement when really, they are only like you and me, just trying to do thier jobs.
Thanks John!
There always are two sides.......the facts
and
just what the public want to hear, another cop being a dick. The media loves to drag cops through the gutter and then never come back and tell the real story. How is it again that the media can twist thier facts so lucidly and yet never be held for slander when it is directed towards the police?????
AMEN! and all states should adapt that law, permanently, in some cases it actually obstructs and/or contaminates the "internal investagations" that ALWAYS happens with anything that can be considered not "standard procedure".
It's like picking a jury after they have been watching the news of the "incident" for weeks on TV.........DA.
Shai Lierley would disagree, and his 911 call (recorded) backs him up. Moreover, the public lies a lot.
Shai Lierley is your "best witness" here, you quote him just about every the case come up.
Shai Lierley, a Costco loss prevention supervisor, demonstrates how Erik Scott brought his gun on an officer as he testifies during a coroner's inquest at the Regional Justice Center Thursday, September 23, 2010.
Erik Scott Coroner's Inquest - Day 2
But, he's a discredited as an eye witness on the incident. He said the gun was drawn, out of the holster. The photos at the scene show the gun IN the holster.
This discredits his hyped-up testimony before the incident , as well.
Saying the same lie over and over doesn't make it the truth.
Lee, who was not present at the scene of the shooting, believes Gavin was attempting to alert the officer of his concealed weapon and might have been trying to place it on the ground.
Man Police Shot Follows the Rules
That rings true to me.
Hey here's a question. How does a law-abiding citizen disarm for a police officer without being shot?
Answer: He doesn't!
Here's a classic:
The latest fatal shooting happened early Sunday after two officers fired more than 30 rounds and shot and killed a man who allegedly turned toward them with a weapon that turned out to be a pellet gun, police said.
Vallejo police, shooting victim's family seek answers to officer-involved fatality
I don't buy these stories. We're supposed to beleive that there is an epidemic of people pointing toy guns at cops and getting shot as a result.
This oft-cited tale is coming up a little short in the credibility department.
Shai Lierley is your "best witness" here, you quote him just about every the case come up.
Tom:
I've never identified a "best" witness. I can think of three "worst" witnesses:
-- me
--you
-- Scott's dad
. . . none of whom were there that day. Actually, an excellent witness is Barbara Fee. Not only was she there that day, and NOT a Costco employee:
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Fee . . . was worried Scott was going to shoot the officer.
“I was hoping he wasn’t going to shoot the cop, but with a gesture like that I thought somebody was going to get shot,” she said.
She told police after the shooting that she didn’t think the officer had any option to shoot Scott.
“Thank God the officer was faster”
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-- and now the Scott family has (wisely) dropped the suit against ALL the officers and departments in return for a promise not to sue them back. There are any number of more questionable (and some outright "bad") police involved shootings in the USA. I am astounded at the energy you continue to direct at this justified one.
I'm continually amused at the notion that Ms. Fee, Mr. Lierley and Christopher Villareale (a CWP holder himself) could all come up with similar versions of events without any chance to "get their stories straight". Mr. Villareale has, himself, successfully disarmed around police. If you want to know how it is done, the answer is "like he did".
Interesting aside: You have previously suggested that contradictory orders might have been a problem. However, according to the sworn testimony of John Nikitas, another Costco employee hit the dirt in response to the cops' orders, much like the urban legend about Reggie Jackson and the dog.
sweet gun, mine is hot pink....now that's JUSTICE!
I was waiting for you to speak up John.....Bravo!
There are always (3) facts to a crime scene:
***the officer's testmony, sworn to protect the public to the best of his ability, usually credible
***the witnesses testimony, usually not crediable
and
***the media's delusional twisted hype for a good ole cop bashing! which is never credible but do they ever retract thier statements? SELDOM
I just don't get societies take on why ALL cops are bad and people work so hard to prove they are uneducated, stupid public servants ?????
Now, does one change one's mind when they have just been beaten and mugged and need to call 911? HELL, no, they call 911 and demand that Justice be seerved.
13 pages of this crap is just plain B$!
sweet gun, one of mine is hot pink! now that is sweet Justice!
Actually, an excellent witness is Barbara Fee. Not only was she there that day, and NOT a Costco employee:
She's an excellent witness?
She saw Scott reach for something on his side and then bring his right hand up and point something directly at the officer.
Fee said she couldn’t tell what was in Scott’s hand, but his hand was pointed, “directly at the cop.”
An excellent witness for what? Nearsightness, maybe?
13 pages of this crap is just plain B$!
Thirteen pages of hyped-up cops killing civilians in questionable circumstances.
Look, I know that questioning our protectors in blue is not permitted in some social circles. The police are perfect. Just ask the Maine AG's office which has found in favor of the police in just about EVERY investigation they've done. The police MUST be right all the time, I guess.
However, you could go read my thread "Police Good Work Department" if you want to feel better about my postings.
Oops!
A Bronx bodega worker was fatally shot by cops this morning as he bolted from the store to escape from thugs who were holding up the place, witnesses and sources said.
“The store was being robbed and police responded and shot a worker by mistake,” said a law enforcement source.
Innocent bodega worker shot and killed by cop responding to armed robbery
Hey, sorry you're dead, buddy, but, uh, nobody's perfect!
Witnesses at the scene said an NYPD officer who just arrived at the scene had fired the shot.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2199900/Innocent-bodega-worker-R...
When you show up, don't try to find out what's going on - just start shooting! Otherwise you might be left out!
Martinez allegedly tried to drive away, even though the first officer's arm was pinned inside the vehicle. Cop Number One then opened fire, striking her. She subsequently died of her wounds at a nearby hospital.
Donna Martinez dies in police shooting, likely charges for passenger Bernard Trujillo
Ah, yes, the old "officer's arm caught in the window" ruse. Fools 'em every time!
Bell says he’s searched “forever” to find one instance of a police shooting deemed unjustified by a district attorney.
“There’s not one out there … and you’re telling me this system is working and it’s unbiased?” Bell said. “It’s like the NFL team having the owner be the referee and at each game and they won it every time, and nobody ever does anything about it.”
State standards lacking in police shooting reviews
No kidding!
Marsh told investigators that an audio recording device he had wasn't running during the traffic stop. The memory card from the recorder was lost, even though it was placed in an evidence envelope.
Ark. Police Reveal More Records in Cuffed Shooting
Huh! Go figure!
Gosh... what are the chances of that happening! Quite a coinky-dinky!
I suspect the memory card is that same place that the videos of the Costco shooting are.
A Houston police officer fatally shot in the head a schizophrenic, wheelchair-bound double amputee threatening people with a pen at a group home for the mentally ill after authorities said the man advanced on the officer's partner, police said.
Houston police shoot double amputee
You know, a guy was killed with a pen once. The officer had no choice!
"It was a guy without an arm, without a leg, in a wheelchair with a pen in his hand, gets shot in the head and killed that’s insane," said Randall Kallinen, a civil rights attorney and member of Greater Houston Coalition for Justice.
FBI will invesigate police shooting of unarmed double amputee .
If you're ever in Houston,
you'd better not fight.
You'd better not gamble,
you'd better do right.
Cause the sherrif will grab you,
and his boy's bring you down...
Diallo was killed in a barrage of bullets fired by police officers who mistook his wallet for a gun. He was hit by 19 of the 41 shots. The officers were acquitted in the 1999 shooting.
Officer in Amadou Diallo shooting to get gun back
Sorry you're dead, buddy... but it was only a MISTAKE!
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Harlem ain't what it used to be since Slick Willie opened his "office" there.
I expect him to move to Kbunk to partake of the offerings there as soon as the local Zumba teacher's charges are dropped.
:D