Eliot Cutler - NO friend of Gun Owners!!!

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Eliot Cutler - NO friend of Gun Owners!!!

I have just been made aware of SEVERAL instances where Eliot Cutler has shown his true colors in his disdain against Gun Owners. When you go to the polls on Tuesday please consider the following when thinking about who should be our new Governor.

The following proven anti-gun candidates have received donations from Cutler in previous races:

• Bill Bradley for Pres (1999) - Rabid Anti-Gunner ($1000)
• Tom Allen for Congress (2000 & 2003) - Rabid Anti Gunner ($2500)
• Chellie Pingree for Senate (2001, 2002) - Big Brady Supporter ($2000)
• Chellie Pingree for Congress (2008) - Same as above ($250)
• John Kerry for President (2004) - Anti-Gunner w/F NRA Rating ($1000)
• Harry Mitchell for Congress (2006, 2008) - D and F NRA Rating ($1500)
• Barak Obama for President (numerous) - Speaks for itself ($ Several Thousands)

As if this wasn't bad enough, Cutler's Law Firm "Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Field" represented the District of Columbia (PRO-BONO; ie FREE) in the huge case District of Columbia vs Heller where the Supreme Court ended up with the decision that the Second Amendment is an INDIVIDUAL RIGHT. They fought against THAT!

He is also on record stating that mandatory background checks for private firearms sales should be Maine law.

Regardless of what you hear in the paid political advertising, it is my opinion that Eliot Cutler is NO FRIEND of GUN OWNERS and SPORTSMEN in Maine.

I'll be voting for Paul LePage who has demonstrated that he is our friend.

Please pass this information along to every voter you know, and fast.

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Very good point, Big. I have

Very good point, Big. I have seen these issues raised on various FB pages, and wondered how anyone calling themselves a supporter of the Second Amendment could even consider voting for Cutler.

By way of contrast, LePage has been endorsed by the NRA.

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Big: Many of the same things

Big:

Many of the same things could be said about me. For example, my former firm, Richardson & Troubh, had Bill Troubh as a senior partner. Bill while on City Council passed some of the local gun stuff preempted by the Home Rule amendments.

Also, pre-Heller, and as an alternative to forbidding private sales, I kicked around private sale background checks. I actually have a plan for such a mini-check, with corresponding CIVIL IMMUNITY for private sellers who do the process.

I have no history of big donations to most of those above, though I did give some money to my friend, John Richardson.

Guess that makes me anti gun.

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Yes, TJC, but you can redeem

Yes, TJC, but you can redeem yourself. Make the concealed carry valid in all states, just as your driver's license is valid in all states. Spend the rest of your life on that until that's done and you can still redeem yourself.

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I'm just putting the info out

I'm just putting the info out there. Its the donations to liberal Dems that concern me the most. They are quite telling, I think. As to you being anti-gun, it never crossed my mind, but if you wanna wear that badge, have at it. ;-)

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TJC Finally you admit it, you

TJC

Finally you admit it, you must feel better now.

thejohnchapman
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It'll shock the NRA. How

It'll shock the NRA. How will they explain my Patron membership?

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Cutler supports mandatory

Cutler supports mandatory background checks for all gun purchases, period.
See this article by the director of the New England Coalition to Prevent Gun Violence.

This quote from the article makes it clear the context is to close the "loophole" that allows private individuals to sell guns to one another.
It is far too easy for prohibited buyers, including felons and domestic abusers, to illegally obtain guns on the street, through classified ads, and at gun shows from unlicensed, private sellers. This dangerous and unfair loophole should be closed.

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What was it again that

What was it again that happened when Hitler took all the guns?

BlueJay
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Right Snowalker, that was

Right Snowalker, that was before he took all the land.

Mike G
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Cutler is a big government

Cutler is a big government politician, government must control everything whether it is gun sales, fuel sales, land use or how you control your wealth and your children's education and future.

TJC I was j/k, consider the source

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The fact is IT IS ALREADY

The fact is IT IS ALREADY ILLEGAL for a person to sell another person a gun if the person buying the gun is not legally entitled to purchase it. Now Cutler and the gungrabbers want to get involved to make sure you stupid people do what you are supposed to do. You subjects need to be controled to stop the epidemic of private gunsales to terrorists by law abiding citizens. Or some such nonsense. The loophole is in the gungrabbers and willing media heads.

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Not true SOS. It's illegal

Not true SOS. It's illegal for a felon to BUY a gun. The seller is not prohibited from selling his property.

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So what are the guys at the

So what are the guys at the gun shop talking about when they talk about federal agents and uncle henry? Something about being careful because theey go through the guns ads in Uncle Henry. can a private citizen who lives in Maine sell a gun to someone from out of state? I thought that was illegal too. Maybe I heard it wrong.

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You heard right

You heard right

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Sec. 478.30 Out-of-State

Sec. 478.30 Out-of-State disposition of firearms by nonlicensees.

No nonlicensee shall transfer, sell, trade, give, transport, or deliver any firearm to any other nonlicensee, who the transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe does not reside in (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, does not maintain a place of business in) the State in which the transferor resides

[url=http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2009/aprqtr/27cfr478.30.htm] Link to 27CFR478_3 [/url]

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I looked for the NRA-PVF

I looked for the NRA-PVF blurb on the Gov race. They listed only Libby and Paul. No listing for Mr. Cutler. I would have read such a bit with interest. I am therefore left with this:

http://www.cutler2010.com/2010/04/gun-control/

"I support the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms, and I respect Maine’s longstanding tradition of responsible gun ownership and use. I also support the current law requiring background checks on firearms purchases from licensed dealers."

I have been given no reason to believe that he has a host of arms prohibitions waiting in the wings. If he had some, and the NRA put me onto some, that'd be worth hearing.

As I see it, he was a VERY successful lobbyist / rainmaker / international trade maven, who wrote a lot in 2008.

http://www.nysun.com/opinion/the-job-after-beijing/84450/

http://www.nysun.com/opinion/mao-and-minneapolis/82970/

http://www.akingump.com/files/Publication/319447de-01b2-4ecd-8320-7f1564...

Here's some stuff he wrote back in 2008 - pre any run for office.

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Eliot Cutler is a real and

Eliot Cutler is a real and dangerous threat to our Second Amendment rights! EVERY candidate he supports is against our Second Amendment and the Maine Constitution.

FACT CHECK: Eliot Cutler vs. The 2nd Amendment

Learn more about Eliot Cutler’s history opposing the Second Amendment.

Cutler's Law Firm Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld represented, pro-bono, the District of Columbia in the landmark case District of Columbia v. Heller in which the District of Columbia sought to uphold their landmark ban on handguns. Soon thereafter, the district filed for protection for it's legal team including Akin Gump Strauss Hauer and Feld, “in order to keep its records out of the hands of the plaintiffs’ attorneys.”

Law firms often are paid to represent clients whose positions do not match their own. However,
Cutler's firm did this pro-bono!

Sources: http://www.akingump.com/supreme-court--appellate-practices/

http://www.oyez.org/cases/2000-2009/2007/2007_07_290/

http://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2010/05/dc-says-outside-counsel-worked...

In addition, Eliot Cutler's position on mandatory background checks for all gun sales (even private sales) in
Maine can be viewed in this video during an early 2010 Maine Gubernatorial debate. (note, many of the
most liberal Democrats in the race even said NO to this question!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6wdd69NGK0

Money trail: Eliot Cutler’s Support of Gun Grabbing Politicians

Bill Bradley

Donated $1000 to Bill Bradley for President on 11/9/1999

http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/eliot-cutler.asp?cy...

Bill Bradley was quoted in the Boston Herald on Feb. 18, 2000
as saying “I have laid out the strongest gun control proposal of any candidate in the history of presidential races,” This was one of many statements Bradley made on gun control, including promotion of bans on gun sales in residential neighborhoods, limits on the number of guns any individual could purchase, and other restrictive measures.

Source: http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Bill_Bradley_Gun_Control.htm

Tom Allen

Donated $500 on 3/26/2000 and then $1000 on 8/31/2000 to Tom Allen for Congress.
http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/eliot-cutler.asp?cy...

Donated $1000 on 5/14/2003 to Tom Allen for Congress
http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/eliot-cutler.asp?cy...

Tom Allen's political record shows a history of not supporting gun manufactururs
and sellers in protection from frivolous lawsuits, including the following votes:

Voted NO on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers.
Source: Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill S 397 ; vote number 2005-534 on Oct 20, 2005
Voted NO on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse.
Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill HR 1036 ; vote number 2003-124 on Apr 9, 2003
Voted NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1.
Reference: Bill introduced by McCollum, R-FL; Bill HR 2122 ; vote number 1999-244 on Jun 18, 1999

Chellie Pingree

Donated $1000 on 9/14/2001 then $1000 on 5/9/2002 to Chellie Pingree For US Senate
http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/eliot-cutler.asp?cy...

Donated $250 on 9/2/2008 to Pingree For Congress
http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/eliot-cutler.asp?cy...

Chellie Pingree, while having a light legislative voting record on gun control issues, is endorsed by the Brady Voter Education Fund here:http://www.bradyvoter.org/endorsements?s=1

John Kerry

Donated $1000 on 4/1/2004 to John Kerry for President
http://www.ontheissues.org/2004/John_Kerry_Gun_Control.htm

John Kerry in 2002 received an 'F' grade from the NRA, indicating a pro-gun control voting record.

Source: http://www.ontheissues.org/2004/John_Kerry_Gun_Control.htm

Harry Mitchell

Donated $1000 on 9/26/2006 and $500 on 4/10/2008 to Harry Mitchell For Congress
http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/eliot-cutler.asp?cy...

Harry Mitchell has repeatedly received D and F ratings from the NRA, and a litany of low grades, including one F, and at best C ratings from Gun Owners of America.
Details here: http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=16369

Barack Obama

Donated multiple times throughout 2008 to Obama For America.
http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/eliot-cutler.asp?cy...

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Here's the most important

Here's the most important part of this Cutler gun thing....
Paul LePage, first candidate for governor in Maine in 20 years to receive
THE NRA ENDORSEMENT.
period.

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Not true SOS. It's illegal

Not true SOS. It's illegal for a felon to BUY a gun. The seller is not prohibited from selling his property

It is illegal to provide a firearm to, including selling, or purchase a firearm for someone prohibited from possessing firearms according to federal statutes.

The Gun Control Act (GCA) makes it unlawful for certain categories of persons to ship, transport, receive, or possess firearms. 18 USC 922(g). Transfers of firearms to any such prohibited persons are also unlawful. 18 USC 922(d).

These categories include any person:

Under indictment or information in any court for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year;
convicted of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year;
who is a fugitive from justice;
who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance;
who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution;
who is an illegal alien;
who has been discharged from the military under dishonorable conditions;
who has renounced his or her United States citizenship;
who is subject to a court order restraining the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of the intimate partner; or
who has been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence (enacted by the Omnibus Consolidated Appropriations Act of 1997, Pub. L. No. 104-208, effective September 30, 1996). 18 USC 922(g) and (n).

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mooseman: I am constantly

mooseman:

I am constantly amazed by people who claim to know the law, but haven't a clue. I constantly look it up, because it changes. This hasn't changed in a long, long time.

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You can legally sell a long

You can legally sell a long gun across state lines but not so with handguns. Handguns can only be sold to citizens of the same state that the seller lives in. I would never sell a gun to anyone who I did not know personally from out of state. The risk is just not worth it. I do not need to know that a gun I sold resulted in criminal use after.

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Dear ...---... I agree

Dear ...---...

I agree that Cutler isn't as strong a gun rights supporter as LePage. Still, you ought to go to SAM's website, or to your SAM news, and read what Cutler has written. I have. The NRA has NOT. I went to their election page. To them, he doesn't exist. They didn't give him a grade at all.

I watched the debates. Lepage came in a strong second. I wouldn't be dissatisfied with him as gov. However, I think our economic situation needs the best hand at the helm there is. All the gun rights in the world are useless if I must sell em to buy heating oil.

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TJC, it is pretty obvious

TJC, it is pretty obvious that he is a life-long democrat with a history of financially supporting anti-gun democrat candidates. Hell, wasn't he even a Democrat up untill Mitchell won the primary? We don't need another Democrat pretending to be an "Independent" again. We tried it with King and you can't forget to look back at their former record. If you can't see this, I am quite surprised at you. Sad, really......

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"We tried it with King and

"We tried it with King and you can't forget to look back at their former record. If you can't see this, I am quite surprised at you. Sad, really......"

Really? SAM, an NRA Affilliate, had wonderful things to say about Angus King in the latest issue of SAM news. Cutler, per SAM's website, is a life member of SAM.

So you don't read the SAM news? "Sad, really."

Look, I don't think guns, positive or negative, are a issue for Cutler. Outdoor stuff is, only to the extent that it links with Maine's economy. I said earlier that Cutler isn't the strongest pro 2nd amendment type out there.

"It's the economy [stupid]"

PS: While we are doing the guilt by association" thing, guess where LePage's first exec job was, per his website. ". . . ..starting with an executive position with Arthurette Lumber in Canada"

CANADA??! (?) Those gun grabbing bastards!! LePage must be a Maple Syrup swilling socialist, underneath it all.

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