Fake DEA agents invade Standish home

If one saw the interview w/ a victim one would have to say this guy is about as laid back as one can be,"it is what it is", or this whole thing stinks really bad!!!!!!

IMHO, the appearance of "fake cops" on the scene means we need somethng more to avoid "blue on blue" tragedies with civilians. I have a few ideas, like multiple marked units, call ins for verification, etc.

This appears to be one of those, "If it walks like a duck and quackes like a duck" there is a good chance it is a duck, If you live in a house with oxygen in use why is everyone using cigerettes? Not your typical American family I would guess. Or, perhaps it now is and is a good indicator of why America is on the verge of going under. How sad!

The use of "fake cops", while new in home invasion robberies in Maine, is an old ploy that has been used by bad guys for a long time. The fact that home invasions are rampant in Maine now, and that many homeowners are heavily arming themselves, makes this a very dangerous situation for police and civilians alike.

As many know we had an attempted home invasion 3 weeks back. Took the LEO 25 mins to get here which is pretty good response time in a rural area, but 24 1/2 mins more than it would have taken to kill the four of us in the house. Thankfully because we mounted a pretty good display of weaponry we ran the bad guy off.

Two of us have applied for carry permits, Jan 13 we dated the checks, and have not seen them yet. A story on the front page of the BDN this morning tells us why.

...."Waiting list for concealed weapons permits grows in Maine, Although it has only been a bit more than three weeks since he applied, Moore, 40, of New Gloucester isn’t optimistic".......

....."A quick visit to the state’s website told him he might have to wait up to three months for his permit. Moore, a martial arts teacher, believes knowledge of and ability to use firearms properly is part of being proficient in self-defense to protect himself, his wife and twin daughters".....

Bangor Daily News story

Proof aplenty, if any were needed, that Maine homeowners are rapidly "arming up" and thus increasing the danger to all sides when the (real) officer comes to your door.

I had told the 911 dispatcher, that night, that we were armed and he discussed the protocol for having the guns out of our hands when the officer arrived as he does not know what he is walking into either. Dispatch did a real good job of making that situation better for both sides.

But if someone came to my door in a ski mask and claimed to be an LEO I would be rreluctant to buy that claim right now, as one can readily understand, Many Maine people are afraid and fear that they may face this kind of situation. Thus they are on a "hair trigger" to a great extent, one might say.

TJC I agree that this possibility must be recognized and ways found to deal with it for everyones safety.

WC

I would like to say something is not right with this situation, but that would be an understatement. I would be would be ready to wire someone for sound had this happened to my family. I was really taken aback by how laid back by the interview I saw last night on WCSH. I am certain we will hear more about this in the not so distant future.

The new policy by DHHS to cut narcotics to 45 days, though necessary, may cause more of this type of stuff. The street value will go up.

Gaffer very good point and as a followup to your point"it is what it is"!!!!!

But why would DEA agents where ski masks (why would someone let them in)?

Many pictures I've seen of SWAT teams in action will have them with masks on. It makes them look "tougher" I suppose.

(Stupid) Courts have told citizens that they are not to resist the police - even if the police are acting illagally, but what about these "no knock" raids?

Jose Guerena was killed in a pointless cowboy-like usless SWAT operation, and then critisized by the cops for defending himself. Well, actually NOT defending himself, he never even took the safety off the gun, unlike the tigger-happy bozos who mistakenly thought they were being fired upon.

Hey, I've got an idea - GIVE UP on no-knock raids. There's usually an easier (and safer) way to apprehend the suspect.

Police say the general public should not be concerned for their safety.

I feel safer, now.

To make matters more complicated Home Land Patriot Act Troops can write their own warrants and tell the person being raided not to tell anyone they were just raided.

Many pictures I've seen of SWAT teams in action will have them with masks on. It makes them look "tougher" I suppose.

Also less succeptible to their own gas and "stingball" flashbangs.

Hey, I've got an idea - GIVE UP on no-knock raids.

Osama bin-Laden would have agreed. However, I have in mind something like a "password" protocol known by homeowners and police, changeable by homeowners. There is a great deal of room for "tweaking" the no-knock warrant system.

......................and a big sign outside that says "this house password protected"