Friggin' Enviros! It's Amazing Anything Gets Built Anymore

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[i]Editor's Note: If you have time read this entire piece. Insanity![/i]

Endangered plant may bar development
Flowers grow on city hill lot where builder plans on putting four homes

By Momo Chang, STAFF WRITER
Article Last Updated:10/22/2006 02:52:13 AM PDT

OAKLAND "” About 10 percent of the world's known Presidio Clarkia plants, an endangered species.., grow on developer Dennis Woodruff's 1.28-acre hillside lot.

The plants could end up dashing Woodruff's plans to build four large homes on [his] property...

Though his plan was approved...by the city's planning commission, it now may have to bear the scrutiny of the Oakland City Council.

Some residents and environmentalists are upset....

[url=http://www.insidebayarea.com/timesstar/ci_4532591]source[/url]

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"That's a major concern — how much of the asbestos is carcinogenic when it's breathed in?" said Lisa Bashnick, who lives on Crestmont Drive next to the lot. "We need to know how much is in there, how much of it will be released, and what the concentration would be in terms of health hazard level. It hasn't been addressed very well at all."

Resistance is coming from neigbors who live next to the lot. They built there, but now nobody else should... Pretty funny when you think of how much of the San Francisco area is developed and is being developed all the time. It seems crazy to build a big city and then become hyper vigilant about one tiny little isolated vacant lot and its wild flowers. The guy that wants to build 5 houses and leave a large parcel undeveloped is being restricted because of an annual plant that doesn't even reseed in the same place. Maybe it will move off his property onto the guy next door's lawn and then [i]he[/i] can move away and leave his yard as a habitat. That is what he's asking this guy to do after all.

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[quote][b]Presidio clarkia can be distinguished from reddened clarkia [/b](Clarkia rubicunda), also known as ruby chalice fairyfan, a related species that may occur in the same area, by the fact that [b]its petals have irregular teeth on their apex margin[/b] (reddened clarkia has petals rounded at the apex).

[url=http://www.fws.gov/sacramento/es/plant_spp_accts/presidio_clarkia.htm]FWS Source[/url][/quote]

[img]http://www.fws.gov/sacramento/images/presidio_clarkia_small.jpg[/img]

Good thing they told me. I would have thought the petals were just tattered by bugs.

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Pfft.

If I were him I would get out the weed wacker.

Anyone ever see the screaming caterpillar Simpsons episode?

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So he's going to put four homes on 1.28 acre hillside lot. Who the hell would want to live there? Might as well live in a trailer park.

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I think, though the article isn't clear on this, that the 1.28 acres was split off the development parcel so that it oculd be placed in a permentant conservation easement.

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Since you brought that up, I read the article. Perhaps your eyes are better than mine, but I don't see that this parcel has been split off. And, in reading further, it's interesting to note that not only are four homes to be built on 1.28 acres - they're all 3800 square foot homes! On tiny little lots.

Might as well live in a trailer park....

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Four houses on 1.28 acres,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,isn't that Lewiston ?

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Calvin, I guess you're right there. But... I've never had an overwhelming desire to live in Lewiston either.

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We fit 9 apartment buildings on an acre!

[url=http://www.oaklandnet.com/government/ceda/revised/planningzoning/commiss... Planning commissions Report [/url] It's a PDF.

Total development site is 1.28 acres. I was wrong.

It would appear that what isn't developed ends up in a conservation easement, so no lawns other than minor front and side lawns.

Plan calls for salvaging the seeds form the plants that get removed and planting them at the right time of year for growth. Also calls for monitoring of the site to ensure the plants do survive over the long term.

In terms of a development that attempts to address environmental concerns this is a pretty good one.

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David, Turn it into a Lewiston ordinance. :wink:

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[quote="Calvin"]Country
Four houses on 1.28 acres,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,isn't that Lewiston ?[/quote]

Or in Florida. We looked to buy a home in Celebration, FL (the new [at the time] Disney 'planned' community) and they took great pride in explaining how they put a 3,000 SQ. FT. home on a 5,000 SQ. FT. lot. Hell, we could have had meals with our neighbors every day and never leave our house.

The mowing would have been easy, though. :wink:

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I lived in a development where the denisty was 4 houses to just a little over an acre. It was fine, we had trees and fences to keep things quiet. We had a garden, a good back yard, and I had room plenty of room to park everything including my log truck.

I don't understand if people are happy on that size lot why should there be any rules against it? Isn't it their business?

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One idea...dark, flashlight, roundup.

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[quote="Country"]Since you brought that up, I read the article. Perhaps your eyes are better than mine, but I don't see that this parcel has been split off. And, in reading further, it's interesting to note that not only are four homes to be built on 1.28 acres - they're all 3800 square foot homes! On tiny little lots.

Might as well live in a trailer park....[/quote]

It's called a city. A real city. The same folk whining about this plan would be screaming just as loudly about 'sprawl' if they moved the idea out fo town.

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You all must be country folk. House lots in Portland are a tenth of an acre.

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Scott used the word "friggin"? :o :o :o

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I suppose you want pictures.

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Bob -

Only for [i]emphasis[/i].

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I admire your restraint.

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