Gay activists support convicted child porn convict
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Several Cape Cod residents, former residents and civil rights advocates want leniency for a former Provincetown gay rights activist facing prison in Vermont for transporting child pornography.
Prosecutors called him a "prolific" collector and trader of child pornography on whose home computer were found 24,000 images and nearly 150 videos.
Supporters back child-porn convict
Why do liberals support these perverts? Roman Polansky - now this guy because he was a "gay-right pioneer."
Attack the messenger all you want, but these people are exposed for all to see what they are REALLY about. Being in denial about it doesn't change those facts.
As expected some lawyers from the ACLU are supporting him...Keeps in line with their support of NAMBLA....
Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
One cannot create "real" child porn without violating children. He is merely part of the distribution arm of a business that cannot exist without...violating children. What part of that do the "supporters" not get?
Ick. It is crazy that he has supporters, but the world is crazy. He should still feel the full crushing weight of the law on him for even THINKING that it is ok... AND GAY DOESN"T EQUAL CHILD PORN!!!! While "gay" and "child porn" are in the same story here, it isn't always the case. Oh, and no one takes NAMBLA seriously. They are to civil rights as Scientology is to religion.
GAY DOESN"T EQUAL CHILD PORN!!!! While "gay" and "child porn" are in the same story here, it isn't always the case. Oh, and no one takes NAMBLA seriously. They are to civil rights as Scientology is to religion.
Wow, thanks, I'm glad we could put that one to rest, oh but wait... Perversion is still perversion, just like red, green and blue are all colors, just different ones. (Noah wants his rainbow back)
And Oh BY The Way, why isn't scientology a religion in your opinion?
AND GAY DOESN"T EQUAL CHILD PORN!!!!
Perhaps not, but from this article we might be able to conclude that support for child porn collectors equals liberal.
quote from Domino: "Oh, and no one takes NAMBLA seriously. They are to civil rights as Scientology is to religion."
It seems that government leaders in your state differ, they seem to be taking it seriously.
Is this an undetected trend?
http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/06/the-horrors-of-political-correctness/
Big government authoritarians have long sought to link homosexuality with child rape. This is an old and hackneyed form of demagoguery.
He sounds qualified to work alongside Øbama's "Safe Schools Czar" Kevin Jennings
Slandering gays isn't new...Tom just likes to make a habit of it. This man is a scumbag...Anyone who supports him...are the same.
That said, pedophiles do not equal gay... To make that comparison is ignorant.
Research confirms
that homosexuals molest children at a rate vastly higher than
heterosexuals, and the mainstream homosexual culture commonly
promotes sex with children.1 Homosexual leaders repeatedly argue for
the freedom to engage in consensual sex with children, and blind surveys
reveal a shockingly high number of homosexuals admit to sexual contact
with minors.2
CHILD MOLESTATION AND THE HOMOSEXUAL
Charlotte, I would like your opinion on this report.
Big government authoritarians have long sought to link homosexuality with child rape.
OK, so you got your gratuitous pro-gay comment in - even though it is a non sequiter. Respectfully - Why don't you try posting anonymously for a while? It would take the pressure off.
The question is - why are liberals supporting this guy? And why is it a pattern with liberals?
Slandering gays isn't new...Tom just likes to make a habit of it.
So telling what liberals are REALLy doing is now "slandering" them. Somehow it's MY fault that these people supported a child porn collector.
Like the ACORN exposure - liberals tell you that the problem wasn't ACORN, the problem was the people who EXPOSED ACORN!
Charlotte again demonstrates the liberal mindset perfectly.
Well, it pretty much proves my point, the worst thing you can do to a liberal is tell the truth about them.
I think the proper question is "Why would anyone support this man?" I don't buy the gay angle for pedophiles. I have dealt with hundreds of child molestation cases in the course of my job. In all these years (in order to protect my own vanity I will not admit how many years....) I only ever had one or two who were gay. In the interest of full disclosure, I will say that there were also some that committed acts against members of the same sex along with other children of the opposite sex. These were people who's adult relationships were heterosexual.
Not able to comment on the "research" in the above article as I have not had the opportunity to read the information cited. I would be willing to bet that anyone could just as easily find reports stating the opposite.
I don't put a lot of stock into such articles for this reason.
I think life experience will show us that once a person crosses one boundary of a taboo, it is that much easier to cross the next. ("Wow! I did this thing, and I'm fine. Nothing happened. Not a big deal.")
Once a person defies the homosexual taboo the pedophile taboo is easier to defy. And vice versa.
Why banter around whether hetros or homos are more likely to commit such an act? Depravity is a human condition and equal opportunity provider. The bigger picture is that something is drastically wrong with our society in that whether you are looking at a car commercial or reading a magazine, lust is the enticer, not the particular products being displayed. We have a serious problem where mentally ill people in positions of authority are trying to make sure that "No child is left behind" in this nightmare of submerging all in sexual bombardments throughout their lives and well before they are able to understand it. I'm sure that some here are just accidents of nature, barn yard animals with no purpose, conscience, or legacy, but all of us don't fit into that parameter. Quit excusing depravity, confront and condemn it. I used to think that rape was a sexual crime to the offender, but it seems that many rapists get a thrill out of bullying, humiliating, and exercising control over the victim more that committing this atrocity out of lust for the victim. For the life of me I can’t understand how anyone can view a child as a sexual object for their entertainment.
Well said.
Anagram - you have no idea how utterly miserable your post above will render our Tom C. The misery... the abject disappointment... gackkk. How dare you so callously pop his beloved pedophile/gay bubble?
I sense a tub 'o caramel chocolate chunk ice cream in his immediate future.... *sniff...*
lol
Robert, would my thoughts change your mind? I don't think so. That said, I'll bite...
First, the study references Dr. Paul Cameron among others. Dr. Cameron was expelled by the APA for non-cooperation over an ethics complaint. Most believe these so called "studies" referenced by Mr. Baldwin are bogus.
Next, when we discuss the behavior of actual pedophiles...specifically those that abuse boys...it is a crime of opportunity.
Check out...
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/94/1/41
In 82% of cases (222/269), the alleged offender was a heterosexual partner of a close relative of the child.
http://www.womeninthelife.com/articles/skinny/childabuse.html
Dr. Cameron was expelled by the APA because he would not embrace homosexuality. He said it was a danger to society. Your second link is that of a lesbian group. Hardly unbiased.
Charlotte, if you actually look at the Baldwin Journal article, you would have seen that it is not a research piece, but a compilation of peer reviewed articles about how homosexuals, as a group, are more dangerous around children than hetrosexuals. I can't quote at length, due to the nature of the material, but if you bother to read it, you'll see the percentages and behaviors found in many research studies conducted over the last 30 years.
"(a pediophile) is ten to twenty times more likely to be homosexual than heterosexual"
Cameron is only cited twice in the article, from 50 other peer review articles/journals.
Anagram - you have no idea how utterly miserable your post above will render our Tom C. The misery... the abject disappointment... gackkk.
You wish.
Why should I bother to post anything here, when you have me all figured out?
My point, from the beginning of the tread is that LIBERALS SUPPORTED THIS GUY. And there are other people that liberals support, such as Roman Polanski, (who wasn't gay) who should, instead, be shunned.
But that doesn't fit into your little caricature of me, so you just ignore it and make stuff up in order to marginalize me.
I sense a tub 'o caramel chocolate chunk ice cream in his immediate future....
lol. Projecting again.
I don't know what is weighing and gnawing at you, but go ahead, eat the tub o' caramel chunk ice cream. You have my permission. It will make you feel better.
lol.
Charlotte, can you read? The article says in the first sentence that the guy was a gay rights activist. So, at least in this one case, a gay man was a pedophile too. And then you accuse Tom of being ignorant? I know you feel your role on AMG is to defend gays and attack Christians, but at least do it with some common sense.
To Tom C and Naran.... I have an even better idea. Send me the ice cream! I love the stuff! Ooh, we could just get together and have an "ice cream summit!" Although I suspect we may need some security standing by... just in case. I sure hope they like ice cream. lol
Make mine a beer float, please.
lol
Why should I bother to post anything here, when you have me all figured out?
Exactly!!!!
How dare I attack people who support a child porn collector!
That MUST mean... I equate gay sex with child porn!
Start the Tom C pogrom!
I love liberal "logic." There's nothing else like it.
lol.
Martyrdom will get you nowhere.
Anagram - how much security do we need, if all we have at our disposal are those long-handled ice cream spoons? "Have at ye, Good Sir!" (splat....). Food fight at ten paces!
lol
Martyrdom will get you nowhere.
No martyrdom here. Just enjoying the liberal nuttiness.
"The article says in the first sentence that the guy was a gay rights activist." I wonder what ELSE he was?? I wonder if he was a boy scout as a child, or if he is of Irish descent, if his hospital records say he is a Baptist, or if his license says that he is an organ donor?????
As far as the corrupt money-maker Scientology goes:
http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/quotes-by-and-about-hubbard.htm
Anyone who supports child porn in anyway is scum. I think we will all agree on that. The point that is really trying to be sold by Tom and the typical AMG group (WV, Robert, Apollo) is that gays abuse more. They don't, but nice song and dance.
Let's look at three authors he references. Cameron, kicked out of the APA (again, for not participating in an ethics review), Joe Farah..Editor at World Net Daily...a very conservative Christian organization known for their extreme views against gays, Kent Harris, again a conservative right wing Christian. These sources are not unbias.
Mr. Baldwin has no credibility unless his audience is drinking the conservative Christian joy juice. Gays do not abuse more. Most boys are abused by men who live in the home with them. Men who identify as being heterosexual. It is a crime of opportunity....not something embraced by the gay community.
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No suprise there, but look at the titles of his supporters...
...Director of Public Health and Human Services...Provincetown schools Supt....
These the people charged with PROTECTING CHILDREN and they are pleading for LENIENCY for the perp??
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U.S. Attorney Tristram J. Coffin in court records. "He has minimized his conduct and offered little to no remorse for his crime."
And Conservatives are labled as spreading "fear" and "hate" while liberals in prominent leadership positions want to ease this perp's punishment....