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Tom...

Don't understand? My father has been a coach...to many kids (boys and girls)...I never heard him say...hey "whip it out..." to inspire kids. He taught respect, hard work, supporting your team instead of pulling down the other...shaking hands. What this coach did has nothing to do with respect.

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[quote="charlotte"]checking out one's "manhood"...has nothing to do with anything. This is stupidity and abuse. If true...the guy should be canned. There is nothing manly with his tactics...If he needs to do this to inspire his players...

Well, he should get another job.[/quote]

Maybe he could get Barney Frank's job, Charlotte. "Checking out" a neighbor's manhood seems to be part of his job.

Or maybe he was just trying to "inspire" his political advocates.

Anyway, at least the kids in the locker room were keeping thier hands to themselves.

Democrats, though, can put their hands anywhere they want, and we are supposed to admire them for that.

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OMG! This is rediculous, and I don't mean the incident, I mean the firing. This is what occurs when MEN get together on their own, let alone in a lockeroom. When I played high school sports this would have been considered MINOR! My word, when did we become spineless and unable to persevere through hardship?

Another clue for everyone, they are our genitals and everyone has a set. Yes, the male and female genitals are different, but thats all. There was nothing sexual going on and it wasn't abuse.

It is high time we stop trying to turn our boys into women.

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Tom...typical.

If this was a gay coach..I am sure you would be ready for the lynching.

As for this coach, he was dead wrong. The fact you support this is absolutely nuts. No teacher, person of leadership should be mandating that a child touch their privates.

It is abusive. Again, if you cannot inspire your players to greatness without degrading them....you suck.

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Cigar...Wow....

Yep, you have every right to grab yours...however, no coach...teacher...has a right to request you to do so.

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Cigar - I disagree. There is nothing of merit in being forced to fondle yourself in front of your classmates. Unless the coach knows of some obscure voodoo ritual wherein touching the privates prior to playing sports ensures a win, you're out of luck.

If it's so wonderful, would you do it at home, to inspire your son to score an A on his next reading test? Try it out in front of the house, maybe that would be even more effective. Why not? Isn't it a "guy thing?"

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[quote="JimP"] Then again I was a sailor 8) [/quote]

How many people in this thread would have a problem becoming a shellback? :wink:

I became a shellback 26 years ago. Wonder if the new Navy still does this.

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Perhaps, Charlotte and Naran are mis-understanding.

The coach did not ask the young men to fondle themselves, he asked them to "Check Their Manhood", for those without stars on thars, big difference.

(in checking and fondle.)

EJ

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[quote="charlotte"]Tom...typical.

If this was a gay coach..I am sure you would be ready for the lynching.

As for this coach, he was dead wrong. The fact you support this is absolutely nuts. No teacher, person of leadership should be mandating that a child touch their privates.

It is abusive. Again, if you cannot inspire your players to greatness without degrading them....you suck.[/quote]

It WASN'T a gay coach - that is the point - there was nothing sexual about it.

"Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me" (Job xviii.3)

Baseball player grab themselves CONSTANTLY. This is an ancient and honorable tradition that has been included in contests for thousands of years. The reason we are turning into such a pathetic whimpified society is because we are discarding and forgetting our manly traditions.

Look, it's a guy thing. Don't even try to understand.

And if you thing what the coach did was sexual, then that is what is in YOUR mind

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[quote="Naran"] There is nothing of merit in being forced to fondle yourself [/quote]

Fondle? FONDLE?

Do baseball palyers "fondle" themselves?

It was NOT fondling.

There was no fondling involved. A player who would have "fondled" himself during that pep talk I am sure would have been sereverly chastised. It was not a sexual thing. Calling it "fondling" is making it into something it was not.

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Tom C

You see, what this coach did was make it bad for a coach to call players who are not doing well a girlie man.

Someone pointed out above, this is the sisification of sports.

I shall keep my mouth closed to the access I have had in the past.

EJ

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Come on people. lets be a little bit real. These are 17-18 y/o boys. I would hardly call placing their hands on their stuff "forcing them to fondle themselves..." jeez.

Not smart, sure. but lets not start calling it what it wasnt.

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I hope, if I was a coach...manhood would be lots more than about the size of one's penis.

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Classmates?? No, they are TEAMMATES. And no, as far as grades, you are of course being purposely obtuse. I guess no one here has ever heard or used the statement "grow a pair" in regards to someone reaching down and gathering some intestinal fortitude to stand up to adversity. Has the destruction of competition gone so far so that you cannot even understand that sometimes competition is not about skill, not about preparation, but about which team wants it the most?

So, Charlotte, your father was a coach. I assume from your comment that you were allowed into the lockeroom for his talks with his teams before, at the halftime of, and after the games? Perhaps that was abuse? Seeing that his daughter would be exposed to the boys in various states of undress. And the boys would have to endure having a girl see them at vulnerable times like this. Hmmm, it must have been horrible for everyome.

Perhaps I was abused in Middle school when our soccer coach was a woman. She would come into the lockeroom anytime she wanted, she was the coach. It didn't matter if we were showering, suiting up, whatever. Perhaps I should seek therapy, and social security, stop working and live off the state to alleviate the harm wich was perpetrated on me by the abuse I endured.

I like how this has been taken from a motivational issue, to being labeled fondling oneself. So, everytime you touch your genitals, for any reason, is considered fondling oneself? Wow, very telling.

Also, How did this ever become a thread about Gays again. Noah, you have now lost any and all credibility with me. And Charlotte, you were just so willing to jump all over that one weren't you?

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charlotte

You are not understanding what the coach asked. The coach asked the players to see, if they had "Testies", Ballz, Gutz, to win.

MOTIVATION.

Stop thinking of sexual desire, no analogy to size mattering.

Ed

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EJ: Read the story. The coach said the game was about who had the biggest sexual organ.

The sad thing is all but one kid did what they were told to do by this jerk.

Tom C
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[quote="EJ"]
The coach did not ask the young men to fondle themselves, he asked them to "Check Their Manhood", for those without stars on thars, big difference.

[/quote]

Bingo, and I think you have pointed out why Charlotte and Naran don't understand - it is a guy thing.

Here, I will provide pictures to help you understand.

"Checking one's Manhood":

Athlete.

-----------------------------------------

"Fondling":

Democratic Politician.

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Dan I read that as TESTICALS, IE ballz or Sack. Perhaps, by the school and paper OMITTING the word, I filled it in with my word, you choose another.

EJ

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Either way. When you talk about size and male genitalia, the remark is sexual.

We are not talking about a coach saying "have some balls." We are not talking about someone adjusting his jock strap during a game. What this guy did was completely over the top.

The fact that the kids did as they were told is scary. There is only one kid on the team that actually has any balls -- the one that refused the order.

Tom C
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[quote="Dan Billings"] The coach said the game was about who had the biggest sexual organ.

[/quote]

"Testicular fortitude."

Something we talk about often, but see lacking more and more these days.

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Our culture/society is on the loosing end of sports being used as a tool to build character, thanks once again to our beloved media who fuels the ignorance of our culture for the almighty buck.

Love it or hate it, our society is steeped in sports, whether professional or not. For the few very fortunate, they were coached by people who encouraged and taught you how to bring out your best on the playing field and then let it be. And if your best was not good enough to win, then it was no reflection on your person.

I've had my horendous experiences with complete(lost for nail on the head descriptive) coaches.

A good coach/teacher/mentor is one of the most valuable persons one can have in their formative years.
They teach values, rules, balance, focus, teamwork, sacrifice, humility (not humiliation), how to win and how to lose, and most importantly, integrity.

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Paul: I don't see how this coach was teaching any of that.

Tom C
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Let me bottom-line it for you.

It is bad if you are supposed member of the evil patriarchy - athletic coach, lacrosse player, Gitmo guard. Then you are ALWAYS guilty of sexual abuse, regardless of whether the act was sexual at all.

However, acts such as raping campaign workers (Clinton), having sex with 17 year-old pages (Studds), or killing your spouse in a fit of jealousy (Clara Harris) are things we can admire you for. That is if you are a Democrat, gays advocate or woman.

It's not the act itself that will bring condemnation on the actor. It's WHO is doing it.

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Dan - I don't either. But I am not really sure that his career should be ended for what he did. I'm not sure if he was fired for what he did or because it was the easy way out for the admin. People make mistakes. Some have greater implications than others. Have we forgotten how to help, correct and re-deploy/employ? We are moving towards a one-strike and you're out no matter how small the offense. I am not condoning what this coach did. It was stupid. I am just saying that the direction we appear to be going in is non-productive.

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[quote="Robert"][quote="JimP"] Then again I was a sailor 8) [/quote]

How many people in this thread would have a problem becoming a shellback? :wink:

I became a shellback 26 years ago. Wonder if the new Navy still does this.[/quote]

I doubt it, The Navy was sisified in the late 80's. The Chiefs initiation is not even allowed anymore. They actually have stress cards they can pull out if they become overwhelmed.

Looks like there are two types in this thread, those that played team sports and those that didn't.

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[quote]So, Charlotte, your father was a coach. I assume from your comment that you were allowed into the lockeroom for his talks with his teams before, at the halftime of, and after the games? Perhaps that was abuse? Seeing that his daughter would be exposed to the boys in various states of undress. And the boys would have to endure having a girl see them at vulnerable times like this. Hmmm, it must have been horrible for everyome. [/quote]

Wow, personal...and over the top. My dad is a wonderful guy...would could motivate anyone without telling them to grab their "manhood". It is just inappropriate. If this guy said...suck it up, or have some balls..or whatever...I would say so what....To ask them to grab their privates? That is wrong. As for you comment about my father, you should be ashamed of yourself...

[quote]Perhaps I was abused in Middle school when our soccer coach was a woman. She would come into the lockeroom anytime she wanted, she was the coach. It didn't matter if we were showering, suiting up, whatever. Perhaps I should seek therapy, and social security, stop working and live off the state to alleviate the harm wich was perpetrated on me by the abuse I endured. [/quote]

Your female coach should not have come in while you were undressed...that is inappropriate too.

[quote]I like how this has been taken from a motivational issue, to being labeled fondling oneself. So, everytime you touch your genitals, for any reason, is considered fondling oneself? Wow, very telling.

Also, How did this ever become a thread about Gays again. Noah, you have now lost any and all credibility with me. And Charlotte, you were just so willing to jump all over that one weren't you?[/quote]

Cigar, grow up. As for touching oneself...that is a private right. To be asked to do so by a coach, teacher...person in power...is wrong. As for credibility...your personal touch, makes your statement lacking.

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You know who is [i]really[/i] famous for grabbing his crotch? Michael Jackson.

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I should be ashamed??? LOL.

You are the one who stated [quote]My father has been a coach...to many kids (boys and girls)...I never heard him say...hey "whip it out..." to inspire kids. He taught respect, hard work, supporting your team instead of pulling down the other...shaking hands.[/quote]

Somehow I am unable to see how responding to the statement you made bringing your father into the thread as too personal and over the top. If it was too personal, you should not have brought it into the discussion at all. I was not the one who brought it into the thread. I did nothing to accuse him of anything, I just questioned if you were allowed into the lockeroom, since you stated this type of motivational tactic was never used by him. You had to have something to base this on, which was your experience. From that, one would have to infer that you were there for every conversation he had with his team. That would mean he would have to have let you into the lockeroom.

Personal and over the top. No way can you be possibly trying to lecture me after the things you have posted about Gerald and others you disagree with. Pot, this is kettle talking.

My coach coming into the lockeroom was necessary, despite what you think, not everything is about sex, nor gay sex.

My statement is lacking LOL, the last vestige of Charlotte, when she is out of arguements to deflect everything to someone else's fault. Get a life. To you Charlotte, everyone is lacking, You seem to post it towards anyone who disagrees with you.

I notice you did not comment on your inability to not jump onto making this a thread about gays.

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4 years of this admitted behavior by the coach and the school doesn't fire him until the team gets bad press coverage?
......sounds like the coaches superiors should be checking their own.

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This thread explains the demise of the Republican Party.
How did our wholesome values become so twisted?

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