That 56% sure have got some balls to vote "No"â€¦.
IMO, he deserved to get sacked... :wink:
[quote="lucky"] From what I understand the hands-in-the-pants incident was just one example of negative behavior with this coach.[/quote]Maybe you could share the other examples.
I have heard several folks here talking about all the times he got away with it, or it's about time they caught up with him, etc....., but I have yet to see any proof that their was ever another example of him pulling a stunt like this.
I will not defend what this guy did, but those of you that want to pile on, may want to stick to the actual facts. Please, no embellishment.
This coach's firing has been highly publicized, thanks in part to his own comments to reporters.
Instances of parents gone wild get a fair amount of publicity as well.
How about when a high school or youth sports official (referee) is the one who makes the over-the-top mistake?
Do we read about it in the papers?
Setting is a high school basketball game.
Large, enthusiatic crowd.
Bleachers are close to the action.
Very experienced referees.
Crowd includes the usual call-complainers.
One referee lets the charged atmosphere get to him.
He makes an obscene gesture at the crowd while the game is underway and is caught on film.
The Board (of high school basketball officials) handles it, and they keep the matter private.
Witnesses to the conduct are kept in the dark as to consequences.
Should it be in the papers?
I think probably not, even though when a coach gets fired for inappropriate behavior or a sports parent does something nutty, it's all over the news.
Kris - from a link on page 1 of this thread [i]"Hartnett said Wednesday's meeting was the third that school officials have had with Remillard to discuss inappropriate comments he made to his players.
"Each time, we reiterated the importance of appropriate discourse between coach and team," he said in the statement."[/i]
1. there have been issues for YEARS re: his coaching style and anger issues. I have seen many boys spirits broken due to the coach in question's anger and control issues..if you didn't cower--you didn't play..
2. I think it is about time Mike gets fired. He has anger issues. Does not know how to play ball with team spirt or good sportsmenship.
3. When Mike was hired to coach boys basketball at our Junior High School many years ago, he had the same aggression problems,breaking clip boards, acting like the boys were in the military, many of the athletes did not continue to play the sport(hurting the program way back then) because of Mike, but that did not seem to stop the High School from hiring him to continue coaching basketball at an even higher level. It was just a matter of time before something happened in order to fire him. Lucky he never hurt anyone. As far as I am concerned his behavior at games and on the court with boys has always been unacceptable.
Also, my post clearly reads [u]from what I understand[/u]. How about you prove there was NOT any other reason for his firing?
[quote="lucky"]Kris - from a link on page 1 of this thread [i]"Hartnett said Wednesday's meeting was the third that school officials have had with Remillard to discuss inappropriate comments he made to his players.[/quote]To which the coach replied"Remillard maintained he had met with school officials only twice this year, regarding a separate incident involving a player who had lost a game jersey." He quickly admitted to the infraction that got him fired , so why not this?
Readers comments can come from anyone, disgruntled players, ex-players, parents, opposition.... I wouldn't give them any more weight as proof than I would a post by you or me on this thread.
[quote]How about you prove there was NOT any other reason for his firing?[/quote]Yea, maybe I can prove there has never been an alien abduction also. How, exactly do you prove something that is not there? Also, I am not saying there were no other reasons for the fireing, only that I've seen no proof nor admissions of those acts or reasons.
I believe that what he admitted to was reason enough to fire him. I do not think that fabricating or incinuating there is more reasons with out proof is fair.
The facts that he has admitted are more than enough to justify the firing and keep him from coaching again, IMO.
Well Kris, I am not adding or embroidering anything more to this thread than what has already been posted by many others.
I agree with you that posters should try to keep their comments based on known facts, but sometimes when the facts are not fully known a reasonable judgement can be made based on what has been made public, IMO.
OK one more post from me.
Do you know this act of motivation did not occur the night of the parent confrontation?
This happened several games before.
IMO, this one only one item that was pushed later by a parent who may have been cool with the coach before he was arrested for assulting the coach.
I add, that here is more of an order of items:
Coach was warned previously about his inapppropriate comments (*pattern)
Coach has the manhood speech with players.
Some Player(s) says NO WAY DUDE. (more than one)
Players playing time goes down.
Parents upset players playing time goes down
Parent talks to coach in locker room.
AD calls or brings parent in to discuss confrontation
Parent brings to light locker-room talk
Administrator Lets the coach go.
Coach goes public.
School at first declines to comment
School talks to lawyer types, after coach goes public
School Goes Public
Now the issue, that was banged about, is that what came first, an assult or a story from the locker room.
From a risk management side, the Administrators (AD) had no choice but to fire said coach.
Parents should not have assulted a coach in the lockerroom and went to the administrators.
Whole story is bad.
The School was right, I retract my original stance that they were wrong to let him go.
I guess one could surmise then that it was the AD who had the coach by the short hairs eh?
Latest poll results from WGAN site:
[quote]Leavitt boy's basketball coach Mike Remillard was fired for requiring his players to all stand up and put their hands down their pants and check their manhood; should he have been let go?
Thanks for reminding me, I gotta vote too!!
oh oh, looks like the polls are closed.....
This subject was the topic of Rush Limbaugh's Morning Update today :lol: :lol: :lol:
This is an old thread about the coach who gave a manly pep talk to his players, and then was chastised for his aggressive coaching style.
Back in the old days, however, even stronger encouragement was urged on the most successful athletes:
[url=http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/tablets-tell-all-ancient-athletes-fl... Tablets tell all: ancient athletes flogged for sins[/url]
It is my opinion that many high school basketball coaches are the absolute worse role models. They forget why they are there. Instead, they somehow elevate their importance, and the importance of winning instead of teaching other valuable lessons. Let's face it, this is a high-school sport, and 99 percent of the players in Maine will end their basketball career at the high school level. How about teaching those old fashion values like sportsmanship, hustle, and class.
My favorite memory in high school was a coach asking a friend of mine to go in with 30 seconds left. (after sitting on the pine the entire game) He politely declined. The coach went to the next person on the bench. He politely declined as well. The coach went ballistic. Classic. What a scumbag... asking somebody to go in to play a mere 30 seconds so the "stars" of the team could get extra applause. Unfortunately, I think he was too ignorant to ever get the point.
My friend has proven to be far more successful than the idiot coach will ever be.
Bravo to the school for firing this loser. Maybe he should join an on-line fantasy league. Seems to be all he is worthy of.
La..this is where I differ from you. I would have gone in and got as many points as I could. I would have tried to prove that I am a good player.
I have been a college starter in two sports...but I started out getting splinters on the bench. :wink: