Rep. Erin Herbig Gets Protection Order Against Rep. Alex Cornell du Houx

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eagleisland
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Well, at least we know from which side of the family the young Jedi inherited his inability to STFU.

Tom C
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I think he is doing a great public service by warning us of the character weaknesses of Representative Herbig.

Some have speculated she was being groomed for a leadership position. What, Legislative Affairs, perhaps? Her "position papers" should be edifying indeed.

Better we find this out now.

I'd like to see some emails from Herbig to him, though. The later the better. Let her damn herself with her own words.

Melvin Udall
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Wow. First class air travel to Puerto Rico. $20,000 engagement rings.

It's amazing what you can do on a meager legislative salary and some odd jobs taking photos.

Too bad they couldn't manage Maine's budget with the same flair for squeezing the last drop out of every penny.

Melvin Udall
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Don't these two seem more appropriate for Massachusetts, where Kennedy foibles are celebrated aspects of political ruling class life?

Tom C
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Wow. First class air travel to Puerto Rico. $20,000 engagement rings.

I think that price is too high for the ring described. It's a decent mid-range diamond, below average color, max $10,000.

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This might sound sexist, but is she really worth all this trouble? She's a pretty girl, but she isn't Kim Kardashian for God's sake. Extremely high maint would be an understatement. Du Houx should be able to find a different girlfriend. Alex - the heavy girls actually have the nicest personalities and make you the happiest.

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I think that price is too high for the ring described. It's a decent mid-range diamond, below average color, max $10,000.

He probably went to one of the high end jewlers at the mall...

Tom C
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but is she really worth all this trouble?

Is she worth the trouble? Absolutely not. See my earlier post - du Houx missed a bullet.

You think she's pretty? Ugh. Washed-out, dried-up gawky mess. Huge feet. Maybe some men like that. Spelunkers, perhaps.

He probably went to one of the high end jewlers at the mall...

Actually, he got the appraisal from I. Gorman, Washington DC jewelers. Potential motto: "Milking the overpaid."

In Maine, engagement rings are usually viewed as conditional gifts, that is, in the nature of a pledge for a contract of marriage. Where no impediment exists to marriage and the recipient breaks the engagement, she is required upon demand to return the ring.[1] However, if the engagement is broken by the donor or by mutual consent, the donee keeps the ring.

[1] O’BRIEN v. HUDOCK, 1984 Me. Super. LEXIS 146 (Me. Super. Ct. Aug. 30, 1984)

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So I suppose that Herbig's attorney might consider advising his client that if she broke the engagement, according to cite, she should do the right thing and return the ring.

But, then again, if many lawyers in Maine merely told their clients to merely do the right thing, instead of running up thousands of dollars in legal fees for nasty litigation, then they wouldn't make as much money.

This whole thing is a cesspool. Everyone involved smells like poo.

eagleisland
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This might sound sexist, but is she really worth all this trouble? She's a pretty girl, but she isn't Kim Kardashian for God's sake. Extremely high maint would be an understatement. Du Houx should be able to find a different girlfriend. Alex - the heavy girls actually have the nicest personalities and make you the happiest.

Apollo may be on to something.

Blast it, I couldn't get the video embed to work. Oh, well... clicky pop.

Bruce Libby
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Well you know in some parts of coastal and rural Maine, it would be hard to find such a well traveled , Seriously Loathsome Unethical Tart ,with a young reprobate and both have a full set of teeth !
I assume that was Mumsy hanging over Alex in the Xmas Family picture!
At least I can assume the damage he could have done representing Brunswick was at least minimized while representing Belfast w/ Erin !
Hs Bob McG. expressed his thanks for having this extra representation?

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Apollo may be on to something...

Sorry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMnjF1O4eH0

charlie neville
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Come on, can't we get to the nitty gritty? This is becoming boring.

charlie

Ugenetoo
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Alex - the heavy girls actually have the nicest personalities and make you the happiest.

And chances are good that they can cook.

Tom C
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You know, going over the data here, I have to admit that I am starting to feel a soft spot in my heart for Ramona. A moonbat, crazy as a bedbug and a complete leftie loonie tune, but she knew her boy was taken for a ride by that scarlet woman. Look at the June 5th picture - not the one the paper used, but the one from du Houx. Look at the body language. This looks like a woman in heat, on the prowl. du Houx looks like a stunned adolescent, happy at the attention, but not quite knowing what to do with it. She looks like a cougar in that picture, having snared some young, vulnerable prey.

Ramona sticking up for him seems like a noble thing to do. In her eyes he was taken for a ride, used, emotionally abused and dumped by a master manipulator.

And perhaps exposing the hypocrisy of that floozy is something that even Herbig herself, if she's willing to face her real problems, might even be thankful for some day.

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FLnext, yours truly just spewed Tasty Adult Beverage from both nostrils. Nicely played.

Tom C, if you go back a page or two you'll see that at one point I, too, was starting to feel sorry for the lad. I got over it pretty quickly, and I 'spect you will too w/regard to Mumsy. Meantime, let us all enjoy the ride!

Bruce Libby
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Ok which is it "Floozy" or " Seriously Loathsome Unethical Tart" we must strive to have some consistency here !

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her boy was taken for a ride by that scarlet woman.

It seems to me that they took each other for a ride. It indeed takes two to tango, and from what I've seen, they were well matched as power hungry, social climbing, narcissistic, immature, entitled children.

I still maintain that the Navy should give him a dishonorable discharge for conduct unbecoming an officer.

Tom C
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It seems to me that they took each other for a ride. It indeed takes two to tango,

Very true. But I've been processing another view of this relationship that I'll post if it hatches.

But, for now, consider this angle.

After this matter, I'd think Emily Cain would look at the result and consider Herbig - a cheater, manipulator - and when called on her her bad behavior, rather than taking responsibility for it, quickly played the victim card with great élan. She then broke promises, and kept valuable property that really didn't belong to her any more - not having earned it - because she felt "entitled" to it.

Cain is looking at Herbig right now and saying:

"Wow! The girl fits right in with the Maine Democratic Party!"

Bruce Libby
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Once again Tom C a most accurate analysis ! Victim Victim Victim they always need a victim even if one is a floozy ,or what ever else we want to assign to her!

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We've all dealt with at least a few Herbig type women in our life, so we can relate. But if Alex and Ramona really want to get anywhere they need to read "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu. They are going about things all wrong.

Bruce Libby
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But Apollo if they did something correctly,wouldn't that risk a chance of ruining this thread?
I myself am completely satisfied w/ their incompetence at all levels!

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Ramona Du Houx - Herbig's Protection Order "Has Lies" - many interesting allegations, but anything new?

Photos prove relationship started "far earlier than Herbig claimed"

She doesn't exactly look like someone who is being stalked, does she?

Bruce Libby
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He even wore his blue power shirt on top of Mt. Washington!!!!!

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It's painfully obvious that this woman should have STFU weeks ago.

Even this AMG thread would have died a quiet and unattended death had she done so.

Bruce Libby
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Oh no Ugenetoo we would have performed TR on it !(Tread resuscitation)

This is just to good to let die !

eagleisland
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This is just to good to let die !

Aye, 'tis a thing of beauty, is it not?

The thing that cracks me up about this latest round is the lengthy "Maine Insights" article written in a determinedly third-party voice, as if no one who reads "Maine Insights" has any doubt of the identity of the "reporter" or the "reporter's" relationship with the subject of the article.

This is one of the reasons why liberals like Mumsy are so entertaining - they're incredibly self-absorbed and so blitheringly dumb that they can't even conceive of the idea that they're transparent as hell.

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I'm beginning to feel sorry for poor ole Corney.

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When you make a request for a restraining order, you submit a statement to the court, testified under pains of perjury.

Anyway, remember, it wasn't the hanky-panky that got Clinton impeached - it was the perjury.

If Herbig made claims that she knew to be false, it would be the job of the District Attorney to charge her with "false swearing." If the claims are material and harmful, and unless prosecution should be avoided because of the harm to others (children for example) then it is the DA's job to make charges.

Oddly though, DAs almost never do that, even though it is their legal obligation. The reason they don't is that perjury in the PFA process is an accepted practice. If they enforced that law against people who committed perjury of this kind, and against the lawyers who encouraged or knowingly made claims on behalf of their clients that the lawyers knew was perjurous, the jails would be full, and you'd only have about a quarter as many lawyers still able to practice in Maine.

Which, when you think about it, wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Taking evil people who abuse the legal system and unethical lawyers encouraging criminal activity to their clients and throwing them in jail - I'd think the world would be a much better place to live in.

Lawyers aren't calling for changes in this absurd system because they make a boatload of money this way. Citizens, though, are correctly disgusted with the whole court farce presided over by Abbott and Costello-type judges.

Herbig's lawyer might be aware of false claims his client made, and if so, has made no attempt to correct the record, as ethics may require. The starting date of the relationship is an obvious falsehood.

When a lawyer has actual knowledge that a client has committed perjury or submitted false evidence, the lawyer’s first duty is to remonstrate with the client in an effort to convince the client to voluntarily correct the perjured testimony or false evidence. If the client refuses to do so, the lawyer has an ethical obligation to disclose the perjured testimony and/or submission of false evidence to the court.

Ethical Obligations of a Lawyer When His Client Has Committed or Intends to Commit Perjury

He's also demanded expensive, contentious litigation, rather than fairly addressing the ring issue, and for some reason wanted pictures of other women that du Houx may have had on his computer.

Now these conclusions are just what I've gathered from the public information, and so may be in error, but it seems to me he is the poster child for "legal ethics".

The Maine Bar Association will probably give him an award. He truly represents the legal profession of this state, just as Herbig seems to personify the values of the Democratic party.