Rep. Erin Herbig Gets Protection Order Against Rep. Alex Cornell du Houx
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One percenter , contributing member of society and all that, but moonbat, nonetheless.
These are the ones we ALL should watch out for. IMHO
Note the liberal use of non-profit status.
Mel Udall - "I know this isn't an Angus King thread, but his endorsement of Cornell du Houx is most telling. It marks him with blue ink as a machine democrat, because the race involved was a three way, with a Green 'independent' running. It was the perfect opportunity for Angus to show his 'non-partisan' cred, plus he's had Green blood running through his system for decades. NRCM, wind-power, forest compacts, etc."
Right on, Mel! I want to hit the "Like" button on this.
TJC - the allegations of binge drinking and pill snorting aren't what I'd call conducive to a career as an elected official.
Unless, of course, the name happens to rhyme with "Marion Barry."
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Editorial.
1:00 AM
Our View: Cornell Du Houx should step down for time being
His presence at the State House would be a distraction while allegations are unresolved.
Private behavior can get in the way of making public policy. Rep. Alex Cornell du Houx ...should take steps to keep it from getting out of control.
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Keeping the representatives apart while conducting important public business will be a challenge for the judge, but Cornell du Houx could make it easier by saying that he will stay away from the State House until the issue between him and Herbig has been resolved.
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I'd say her own continued presence in the House meets the same criteria for "distraction" designation.
Is it too soon to say "A pox on both your houses!"?
eagleisland
No it seems to be quite appropriate with in reason and just what the situation requires!!!!
I rarely read the PPH, but it seems odd there are no comments section with this op-ed.
Naran:
You are talking about gross effect. I'm talking about what the law requires for a successful defmation suit. Moreover, regarding a public official, the standard is that of New York Times v. Sullivan.
The law requires an awful lot more than mere factual inaccuracy to make speech about public officials actionable. It is why convicted felon Michael Doyle was able to take potshots at the Falmouth town council.
I could quote many of the statements made by convicted felons, but none of them would be fit for publishing here on AMG. They don't have a filter.
Ugenetoo - the PPH deleted the comment sections from all their articles and editorials on the du Houx/Herbig situation. The conversation had gotten too heated, I guess.
TJC - thank you for the input. Like I always say, one might eventually win a defense against accusations of libel, but one still has to defend against those accusations. No thanks.
I wonder if Su$$man was consulted in this matter.
Why wold he be consulted? After all he exersizes no "editorial influence" ! (sarcasm of course.)
Although I think it would be just apparent that this was going to be messy for the "D"s so cut it off was the move.
As for Mr. legislator ,the description in the Orient article comments seems to be what I see by just looking at his picture,
"Having known him for almost 9 years, a large amount of this rings extremely true. From his collection of photos to blackmail people
running for Student Government seats, to his innate belief that he was smarter
than anyone he dealt with - and a belief that he could just spin his way out of any situation he got himself into.
I'd rate him extremely low on the ethical / moral standpoint - I think that in his mind the truth just isn't a really valuable thing
(which can be fine from some values standpoint, maybe not someone I'd want to vote for) - so I don't think he feels like he's lying -
he's just being true to the things he values, which is a pretty self-serving advancement path.
While this is a terrible situation for Erin, it might actually be net good for the universe - if it torpedoes the chances he has of advancing into any national political spotlight."
About covers it I would say
From what I've gleaned from all this is that I think it's too bad they didn't marry.
Now they probably are going moveon! and screw up two more families.
A reasonable prediction of the future!
I'd say her own continued presence in the House meets the same criteria for "distraction" designation.
No, no, no. The woman is always right in these matters. Even if she lied about him having a gun.
Other articles:
"The temporary order is to be sure everybody is calmed down and safe until both sides can present their side of the story," said Julia Colpitts, executive director of the Maine Coalition to End Domestic Violence.
Anyone subject to an order can be banned from possessing firearms until a hearing is held.
Thousands seek Maine protection orders each year
So, lovers of justice, if this is true, anyone can have their right to possess firearms removed merely by a complaint, and without the opportunity to respond or with a hearing.
Interesting spin in the headline - this case, it would appear, isn't about "domestic violence", instead, it's about "breathing space and boundaries."
And who could be against 'breathing space and boundaries"?
Of course, if were Republicans involved, I suspect the spin would be quite different.
More domestic violence news:
Rep. Emily Cain, the House minority leader from Orono who sponsored the bail bill, said there's "no magic cure for domestic violence." But the bills signed by the governor "are a first step."
LePage OKs more anti-domestic violence bills
I’m enjoying the irony of Emily's high statements - made when she, herself, was in the midst of covering up what certainly appears to be abuse by her colleague.
Some years ago my oldest son and his wife had some issues between them evidently. She went to Spruce Run agency in Bangor one evening around 9:00 PM or so and told them that her husband had hit her and hit the children. Spruce Run went to the Bangor court house and got a judge, at that time of night, to sign a court order depriving my son of the right to have any contact with his children without having any chance to tell his side of the story. It was a couple of weeks before it went to any kind of a court hearing.
It seems wrong to me, and always has, to deprive a person of his parental rights, without any sort of due process, and based solely on the word of someone who has an axe to grind.
The system is ripe for abuse and is abused every single day in the State of Maine.
WC
The system is ripe for abuse and is abused every single day in the State of Maine.
It's a nightmare for people abused by the system itself, and I can speak from experience there. I'll never get back what I lost for the 3 and a half years I spent in "Family Court" but that's just the way it is. I can accept that, but I find it irritating when the people involved with the system, the women's advocacy groups, lawyer, judges, etc, refuse to take any responsibility for the havoc they have wrought. They're a bunch of phonies.
A family lawyer told me: "Criminal attorneys see bad people at their best. Divorce attorneys see good people at their worst." The "he said, she said" allegations here are certainly fodder for "people at their worst.". Adultery, accusations of binge drinking, pill popping, stalking, harrassment, threats, - while yet to be proven (except for the adultery, I guess) - certainly paint a titillating image for the masses.
Add to that the cover-up by the minority leader, and we have the makings of a very good Grisham novel!
You make a good point about the system, Tom.
I know it's broke without having been subjected to it.
The real hypocrisy here as you said is the cover up by the minority leader in the name of all that's democrat.
There's no doubt in my mind that she was willing to throw Mz. Herbig under the bus in order to cover for the insider's son.
You guys have no real evidence of "cover up" and I am no apologist for Emily Cain. So are you claiming Cain should have called the cops and helped Rep Herbig get a PFA earlier? From the process and the system you claim is so slanted and absent moral or legal standards? Should they hold a press conference and potentially libel someone without having a fair investigation of the facts?
In fact, based upon what little we know, it appears an "employee" brought the concerns of harrassment by another "employee" and those "supervisors" (Cain and Nutting) warned the offending employee Rep. Cornell Du Ouche to stay away while reporting the incident to the Capitol Police. Since they had no power to suspend or "fire" the alleged harrasser, it would appear they did what is required of them.
What facts constitute a cover up? We have no idea what allegations of harrassment were shared with Nutting or Cain. What would you have them do differently? Report it to cops at the first instance? If they were told, "hey, we broke up and he is making me uncomfortable" is that grounds to call the cops, hold a press conference to denounce Du Ouche?
To say they acted to protect some wing nut leftist blogger and her kid is foolish. They have to walk the line between taking claims seriously without denying Du Ouche due process or slandering him.
Tom C, your own experience has colored your view of these proceedings and that is understandable. However, lets not act as if every PFA case is a mere hoax used to bash men. There are actually plenty which are justified and meritorious.
Come on Kenny, look we have suffered thru a weekend of contention accusation and general discontent that was boring as all get out,check Romney delegate count, so let's not try and stop unverifiable conjecture , misinformation and unsupported conspiracy theory of any coverup etc.. Actually I am sure it is C W's fault along with any outbreak of the vapors this past weekend!
Tom C, your own experience has colored your view of these proceedings and that is understandable.
God forbid someone should speak on an issue that have personal experience with!
I think that a situation where a legislator is restricted in his movement within the Capitol, has acted in a way that many have found bizarre, and has come to the attention of not only the leadership, but also the Capitol Police, is newsworthy, and worthy of public disclosure.
Yes, the protective system is a joke, and this isn't just a single unsubstantiated charge standing out there by itself, of the type the court use to destroy men. No, instead this has been a long-running situation, many accusations, a pattern of behavior, and enough of a concern to the leadership to institure a "safety plan"!
Good Lord, man, do you remember the hue and cry from the lefties when a appointee of LePage's was accused of domestic violence? The fellow was a volunteer commitee member, cleared competely of the charges within about a week, but still suffered personal humiliation and career damage.
Meanwhile, Cain is involved in protecting her bizarre membership from public revelation of very unusual behavior while they are taking the public dime.
This monkey business has BECOME the public's business!
I'll stick with "cover-up", thank you.
Tom C I believe you are correct and it is the publics business !
Additionally very entertaining to watch and follow.
Additionally very entertaining to watch and follow.
Yes, and the Maine Sussman Media (MSM) has pretty much confined the story to the Friday news dump. I want more gritty details!
The BDN has articles, as well.
Getting off the subject a little, what kind of name is Alexander Cornell Du Houx? It sounds like he is some kind of liberal artistocrat or something.
Not fair making fun of someone's name.
Point of clarification: Would gritty pictures be too much to ask for ? Ahhh probably!
Apollo
My first thought was Haitian.
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Ahhh.. that would explain Dad, before successful cable connections determined trial runs war shocking!!!!