LP Event: Adams, Becker, Wibby, Bragg, Augusta 5/19

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Mark T. Cenci
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Ken Lindell called this afternoon from California, where he is with his ailing Mother. He will not return in time. Our thoughts are with Ken and his family.

Jack Wibby agreed to fill in and will tell his story of citizen participation in tax related issues.

Ironic, in that I emailed Jack a month or so ago to ask him to attend, but he declined. He is a workhorse, however, and will rise to the occassion.

Lindell will send me the summary of his talk, and I will probably find the time to go over his ideas on how the Maine LP can get involved in non-partisan issue activism. Perhaps I can take Lindell's position and have a give and take with the National LP Exec Dir Shane Cory on this topic.

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Oh Boy - Jack Wibby - who primarily wants to shift taxes from retirees to younger folks.

Go Libertarians!

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You are amazingly like the hardcore Libertarians, who constantly gripe about other Libertarians' less than perfect Libertarianess.

We invite speakers who are doing things in the world, and who have insights into the way politics works, and who agree with us on something.

Our meeting is not a conclave of the Most Holy Libertarians within the Sanctum Sanctorum of Libertarianhood.

If I knew of any Democrats who were doing anything to advance or even protect liberty, I'd have been happy to invite them. The REAL ID issue involved Democrats, but I don't know who.

I could have asked Libertarian activists or office holders from outside the state to speak, but I wanted to have an event featuring Maine people.

laMaine
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Sorry Mark, I'm a registered Republican.

My point, which you missed, is that your Libertarian Convention could easily be confused with a wacko-Conservative one.

Good luck.

Mark T. Cenci
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I know, you said that.

I really wanted Jim Babka, Director of DownsizeDC.org, to speak. But he had to have about $800 in expenses and I don't have that to spend.

I could have asked some of the LP Pres candidates to speak, but I doubt they would travel here to address 40 people. And we really need to come out of our inactivity and decide who and what we are before entertaining pres notions.

Mark T. Cenci
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There is a lot of talk about how the LP, or any small group, is a waste of time, polling 0.5% in a pres election, etc.

That may be true.

But 0.5% must be viewed in the context of the tipping point, which is a good rule of thumb for start up ideas and products.

2% is the level of sales, or acceptance, where the magic happens.

Some things, like health insurance, take 30 years to reach 2%, and then rapidly take over and become the choice.

That is not to say that everything reaching 2% acceptance, takes over the marketplace.

Only saying that 0.5% must be viewed in terms of 2%, and not 51%.

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Constitution, Libertarian parties to meet Saturday

By KEITH EDWARDS
Staff Writer

Friday, May 18, 2007

Saturday is a big party day for those who favor an alternative to being either Republican or Democrat.

The Constitution Party gathering begins at 1 p.m. at Gardiner Regional Middle School on Route 126 in Gardiner.

Another "third party" organization, the Libertarian Party of Maine, is holding its annual convention Saturday at the Senator Inn off Western Avenue in Augusta.

http://kennebecjournal.mainetoday.com/news/local/3912117.html

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I wish I could attend the Libertarian meeting in Augusta, but alas, I will be unable to do so. Many thanks to my good pal Jack Wibby, for stepping in for Ken Lindell. My warmest good wishes to Jack, and to Mary Adams.

I hope you all enjoy the occasion, and I will miss being there. It's a wonderful experience to meet with like-minded folks. I'll never forget my first Citizens Alliance of Maine meeting in Windham, with Jack, Mary, Gaffer, Slingblade, Steven Scharf, David Babin, Mark Cenci, and many other AMG'ers in attendance. What a revelation!

One moment, we feel like a lonely outpost in the wilderness, and the next, begad! There are others who think the way we do. Amazing!
8)

Best of luck with the meeting today, and God Speed!

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[quote][b]Alternative parties urge freedoms[/b]

[img]http://kennebecjournal.mainetoday.com/news/local/includes/global2/centra...
[i]Staff photo by Joe Phelan
Bill Becker, executive director of the Maine Heritage Policy Center,
speaks during the Maine Libertarian Party state convention on
Saturday morning at the Senator Inn in Augusta.[/i]

By KEITH EDWARDS
Staff Writer Kennebec Journal & Morning Sentinel Sunday, May 20, 2007

Leaders of two alternative political parties -- including a controversial national figure pondering a run for president -- urged central Mainers to help break the stranglehold Democrats and Republicans have on political power and their personal freedoms.

In separate meetings Saturday, about 30 people each gathered to hear from leaders of the Constitution Party and Libertarian Party.[/quote]

[url=http://kennebecjournal.mainetoday.com/news/local/3921248.html]Source[/url]

Beth O'Connor
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Thank you Mark for an excellent day. All of the speakers were wonderful and their words of wisdom will not be taken lightly by me. What a pleasure meeting so many great people who understand and embrace the freedom philosophy.

My guest who can be extremely cynical was quite impressed as well and sends his thanks for such an enjoyable afternoon and the opportunity to meet some of Maines finest citizens.

Kudos to you!!!

Mark T. Cenci
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We were all very pleased to meet you and your guest, Beth. We hope to do more good events and good projects.

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I thought the convention went very well. The was a good dose of inspiration, and also a new set of officers were installed. Three cheers for Mark Cenci’s keeping the effort alive and arranging a fine convention. We got a lot done. The food was excellent as well.

The Libertarian Party of Maine has run candidates for office in Maine. I ran twice as a Libertarian, myself. Given the preference on the part of the press to see the political scene as made up of two parties, it is nearly impossible to get elected as a third party candidate. The Greens in Portland have had marginal success in an area that has a large number of the secular eco-religionists. In my town there is one Green, which is not enough to generate a successful Green candidacy in my district. All that is to say that the ground must be prepared for a party to successfully run candidates on the state level. Seven or eight years ago the LP thought that the best course was to run candidates. We tried! It is a difficult chore; however, it was a way to get our name and point of view out there. But is was martyrdom to run without a well prepared ground. It may take decades to get the voters to appreciate our point of view and that is OK. Sooner or later people will wake up to the fact that freedom is vanishing fast in Maine and nationally. That sorry pack of chain forgers in the State Government relentlessly work at taking away our freedom----always of course with the image of Maine as a utopia (which it never will be). The closest we could get to that is with a small government, fewer laws, and sending the state nanny into retirement.

It is a mistake to think that members of the LP do not run for election. There were at least two school board members at the convention. We can get involved in local government. I know of one selectman who is a libertarian. There are others. To be a party one need not run candidates for state offices. The LP is a promoter of a certain family of ideas. We have the liberty field pretty much to ourselves.

That brings me to say that Mary Adams speech was an inspiration, as usual. She pointed out that there is a still an appreciation for freedom in the citizens of Maine. The LP is the only group seriously talking about freedom and she is confident that we can bring back to public consciousness a respect for it. If we do that in a smart way, we will prepare the ground for our success as a party in state elections. She quoted from the founding fathers, which I found to be inspirational. One point worth keeping in mind is that we should not rely on people in office, but instead rely on the constitution. Lately we’ve seen the state government ignore its own constitution---wink at it.

We as a party should point out in specific detail when are freedoms are taken away (and that happens whenever the Legislature meets) . We can do a lot to promote liberty and we touched on some of those things at the meeting. The mass of Maine citizens do not comprehend the relentless grinding away of our liberty by the government in Augusta. Mr. Bragg brought that home to us in his speech.

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Darn...

I knew I should have sat in the back of the room! :shock:

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