MAINE- Flaws prevalent in taking guns from abusers

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MAINE- Flaws prevalent in taking guns from abusers

Wednesday, January 24, 2007

Maine is a trailblazer in domestic violence law. In April 2006, the Legislature included pets under protection from abuse orders, to avoid having helpless animals used to intimidate victims of abuse. It's a "first in the nation" statute with a laudable goal.

This law applies when the family dog, cat or livestock becomes a tool of domestic violence, no different than any inanimate object. Yet Maine soft on restricting abusers' access to other tools -

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Any person sufficiently determined to use a firearm during a crime or act of passion will find ways of doing so.

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Let the jawboning begin. I mean to contradict any of these righteous platitudes would mean you were FOR domestic violence, wouldn’t it?

"Violating the duty to protect firearms from an alleged abuser should carry a stiff penalty, to which Mr. Benner, regardless of his regret, should be subject. "

Well, well, well. Let's make a law. We should punish SOMEONE. We're already punishing the abuser - but we still have an unsatisfying feeling - it just doesn't seem to be enough. Let's find more people we can punish. Let grab onto the emotion of the moment and punish until we feel a sense of satisfaction - and restore the illusion that we really are in absolute control of our little worlds. Let's punish until WE feel better.

Oh, by the way, how is someone supposed to know who has a restraining order against them, and who doesn't? Forget about that. there ought to be a law. A bad law is better than no law, we need more laws. Even if we point out that the son here MIGHT have known that the abuser was prevented from having guns - has this EVER happened before? Does this rise to the level of a social problem that we need a law about it? This is a one-time event. Let's close the door after the horse has left the barn.

Outrage, outrage and more mindless outrage going off in random directions, to no good result. When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.

KJ: "The commission of a domestic abuse crime, [b]even if alleged,[/b] should result in the seizure and storage, by police, of dangerous weapons, without question."

Bingo. That is what this is really about? Oh, then, what if the allegment is false, should we punish the liar?

Oh, no, no, no, we can't do that - that would just discourage true victims from coming forward, right?

Lies, lies and more lies. A very thin agenda here, and unsupportable, unless you let yourself be swept up by emotion - and throw common sense out the window.

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A crime has been committed! Let's punish all the people who didn't do it with more laws!

I personally believe that if a news story is alleged to be false or malicious, the presses and cameras should be seized and held by the police.

Tom C
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[quote="Mike Travers"]A crime has been committed! Let's punish all the people who didn't do it with more laws!

I personally believe that if a news story is alleged to be false or malicious, the presses and cameras should be seized and held by the police.[/quote]

I agree - until it is proved otherwise.

Then let the wheels of justice grind slowly, indeed.

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This is about the nanny state having more control of the citizens of Maine. Has anyone noticed that we have more and more crime and stories such as this one as the number of laws to prevent such are put on the books. It boggles the mind at the arrogance of lawmakers to think that they can legislate morality and common sense. What utter fools!

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Benner can be prosecuted under current law.

The media pinhead stated in his article

"As the Benner example shows, [b]this procedure is deeply flawed[/b]. Violating the duty to protect firearms from an alleged abuser [b]should[/b] carry a stiff penalty, to which Mr. Benner, regardless of his regret, should be subject."

HOGWASH!!

It does, and he will -- if the prosecutor is on the ball.

I'll betcha that Benner could be prosecuted for accomplice liability, reckless conduct with a firearm (mandatory minimum of a year) and MANSLAUGHTER, for reckless / criminlly negligent homicide.

We have plenty of laws to do that right now -- which is why IDIOTIC COMMIE PINHEAD MEDIA WONKS, and not prosecutors, are clamoring for new laws.

This guy could end up doing twenty years. That enough fer' ye'?

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I'll bet he doesn't get prosecuted - because the DAs figure they'll get more laws if they just leave the impression that the fellow couldn't be prosecuted under current laws.

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ARTICLE 1: Section 16. To keep and bear arms. Every citizen has a right to keep and bear arms and this right shall never be questioned.

Where is the MCLU?

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The Maine Civil Liberties Union will decide for you what rights are important, and what rights you can forget about.

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What Tom said. Unfortunately, I fear it was not purely tongue in cheek. When it comes to laws, the lawyers scare me far more than the police or potential criminals.

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