Maine: a Sanctuary State for Illegal Aliens

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Please note -- this is an older thread, from 2005, started by Rep. Rich Cebra.
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Maine: a Sanctuary State for Illegal Aliens

By Rep. Rich Cebra (R-Naples)

In travels around my legislative district, I'm often asked about
Governor John Baldacci. Recently, a constituent said, "Tell me the worst
thing the governor has done."

I thought for a moment. Was it Dirigo Health, which now threatens to tax
working Mainers to pay for the governor's failing program? Was it
running up $325 million in unpaid Medicaid bills that Maine owes to
hospitals in the state? Was it LD1, the governor's "tax reform" bill
that now could spark a full-blown revolt over property taxes?

No, the worst thing this governor has done, in my view, took place on
April 9, 2004. On that day, he quietly signed an executive order that
effectively made Maine a sanctuary for illegal aliens. He turned Maine
into the first and only state to proclaim that people in the country
illegally - even if they are fugitives, criminals or terrorists - are
entitled to the full range of welfare, medical and other benefits
intended for the lawful, taxpaying people of our state.

With the stroke of his pen, the governor ordered state employees to not
inquire about a person's immigration "status." That means that illegal
aliens can obtain Medicaid, subsidized housing, food stamps, welfare
payments and in-state college tuition - something denied to legal
Americans from other states. We're also one of the few remaining states
that issue driver's licenses to people who are here illegally. Once they
have a license, it is likely that they will, under the Motor Voter
program, register to vote.

By now, everyone knows that the United States faces a staggering
immigration crisis. According to a Time magazine special report, more
than three million illegal aliens sneak into the country every year.
Federal officials admit that the illegal population is at least 11
million now, but other estimates put the figure at 20 million or more.
In 10 years, it could hit upwards of 50 million.

People are pouring in illegally from virtually every failed country on
earth - from Asia, Africa, South America, the Middle East, Central
America and, most of all, Mexico. I feel bad for people stuck in poverty
in some Third World country, but the fact is that we cannot take in tens
of millions of people, with no end in sight. It would bankrupt the
country and, in time, reduce us to Third World living conditions.

Not all illegals come here to work, either. We're also drawing the
criminal class from many nations. Already one third of inmates in
federal prisons are illegals. There are tens of thousands more in state
prisons from coast to coast - another huge cost resulting from the
invasion. How long before the scourge of Third World crime hits us here
in Maine?

When a state like Maine creates a haven for illegals, a place where they
can enjoy protected status and numerous benefits, the word travels far
and wide over the immigration grapevine. We know from the Census Bureau
that at least several thousand illegal aliens are already in Maine. The
governor's action will undoubtedly attract thousands more.

In times of dire financial difficulties, such as Maine now faces, you
would think that a governor would make sure that our limited resources
went to legal residents. But this governor seems prepared to shower them
on anyone, whether they snuck across the border or flew in on a tourist
visa and never left. It is impossible to know how much the governor's
action is costing us in welfare, free medical care and other services,
but it stands to reason that the amount is huge and growing.

Recognizing that issuing this executive order would provoke outrage and
protest throughout the state, the governor signed it quietly, and made
sure that the language sounded harmless. The title certainly sounds
benign - an Order Concerning Access to State Services by All Entitled
Maine Residents. The damaging details are buried inside. The press
dutifully played down this bizarre development or ignored it altogether,
to keep the public in the dark about the governor's scheme.

The section on legal authority for the executive order is especially
interesting. It states: "Nothing in this executive order is intended to
supercede any lawful requirements, state or federal, regarding the
conduct of state employees." However, by giving protection to illegal
aliens, the order plainly breaks federal immigration laws, USC 8, 1325,
sections 274, 276, 277 and other statutes. It is a federal crime, for
instance, to "aid, abet, assist, encourage or induce an illegal alien to
remain in the United States."

This is an example of the loss of the rule of law. It further expands
the Third World momentum that threatens to overwhelm the United States.
Illegal immigration advocacy groups grow in power with each new victory.
The taking of Maine is their biggest conquest yet. Not even California,
Arizona or other places overrun by massive waves of illegal immigration
have taken the step of turning the entire state into a sanctuary zone.

My guess is that the governor has no clue what he's bringing upon the
state. We'll assume he had good intentions. But Maine will probably be
swamped by this silent invasion with possibly millions of illegals in
the next 25 years, all demanding welfare, Medicaid, food stamps, free
schooling for their kids, subsidized housing and, of course, freedom
from arrest and deportation. Our language, culture, environment, crime
rate and quality of life will be altered utterly. The governor doesn't
understand how much damage his actions will create for our children.

My hope for our security, our economy and our children, is that we will
elect a new governor - soon - who will rescind this ruinous executive
order.

Representative Rich Cebra, a small business owner, represents the 101st
House District, including Casco, Naples and part of Poland

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Maine: a Sanctuary State for Illegal Aliens

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Anonymous
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I'm surprised at the lack of interest, really.

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I disagree with Governor

I disagree with Governor Baldacci's executive order and look forward to seeing Governor Woodcock repeal it on his first day in office, but to suggest that illegal immigrants are a big problem for Maine is ridiculous.

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Maine: a Sanctuary State for Illegal Aliens

[quote="Dan Billings"]I disagree with the Governor's executive order and look forward to seeing Governor Woodcock repeal it on his first day in office, but to suggest that illegal immigrants are a big problem for Maine is ridiculous.[/quote]
That does not excuse Bald Archie from tying the hands of law enforcement. His king-like proclamation hasn't garnered much attention BECAUSE there isn't a big problem in Maine...YET.
Had a whole bunch of them busted right here in Waterville at a certain Chinese restaurant a couple years ago.
Waterville, Maine!
Why do you go from Guatemala to Waterville, Maine?!
You get an invitation!

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Sometimes it's not so much as what, but how and why.

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Maine: a Sanctuary State for Illegal Aliens

There are more illegals in Maine than one would think. They work in Chinese restaurants, hotels, offices, a few even have their own businesses. Most have come to improve their economic condition. As a bonus, they get access to all of the American freedoms that most of us take for granted. I'm a former Immigration officer, and the son and grandson of Border Patrol officers (one of whom became a crimial investigator for the INS and who retired in Portland. In his last year of duty, he was almost killed while fighting an illegal Chinese immigrant who was trying to flee from arrest in the parking lot of a Portland area Chinese restaurant). Becoming a sanctuary state will not make Maine a better place to live and work and raise children.

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Maine: a Sanctuary State for Illegal Aliens

[quote="Dan Billings"] but to suggest that illegal immigrants are a big problem for Maine is ridiculous.[/quote]

How would one truly know, with a don't ask policy in effect?

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Maine: a Sanctuary State for Illegal Aliens

[quote="Robert"]How would one truly know, with a don't ask policy in effect?[/quote]

Walk down the street -- unless the illegal are all white people, there aren't many here.

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Maine: a Sanctuary State for Illegal Aliens

With Baldaccis sanctuary policy, Mainers will never know the true cost.

[img]http://www.mnforsustain.org/images/immg_mn_illegals_ed_cost_table1_fair_...

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Maine: a Sanctuary State for Illegal Aliens

[quote="Robert"]With Baldaccis sanctuary policy, Mainers will never know the true cost.
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No, Maine is on that list because anyone who has looked at that issue has concluded there at not many illegals here.

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Maine: a Sanctuary State for Illegal Aliens

[quote="Dan Billings"]
No, Maine is on that list because anyone who has looked at that issue has concluded there at not many illegals here.[/quote]

Really? Then why create another 60,000 dollar a year job?

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OPENING DATE: November 14, 2005 CONTACT: Steve Smith

CLOSING DATE: December 2, 2005 or until filled TELEPHONE: (207) 287-1877

Agency Information:
The Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) protects and preserves the health and welfare of Maine citizens by administering a wide-ranging system of programs in health, behavioral health, social services, income maintenance, public health, and medical services. In order to improve services to minority and multicultural populations, DHHS with the support of the Office of the Governor is establishing the Office of Immigrant and Multicultural Services within the Department. The new office will provide support to and implement the recommendations of an Immigrant Cabinet to be established by Executive Order, in acknowledgement of the need within the State to provide strategic planning, policy development, and program implementation for services to those residents of Maine who are non-US Citizens. The Office of Immigrant and Multicultural Services will oversee the provision of services to non-US citizens and persons of minority cultures residing in the State of Maine. These services will assist recipients in achieving economic, education, and social self-sufficiency. The Office will promote mutual cooperation, exchange, and understanding among the various populations served which will be vital to the provision of meaningful, effective service delivery.

Job Duties:
As Director Office of Immigrant and Multicultural Services, you will be responsible for planning, coordinating, and directing all aspects of a major social service program for non-US citizens and persons of minority cultures including the deaf and hard of hearing communities residing in the State of Maine. You will utilize your creative thinking ability and analytical skills to formulate comprehensive program proposals, policies and implementation plans, and in formulating innovative solutions to fiscal and other resource constraints. You will use your management, planning and organizational skills to perform program evaluation, budgeting, and staffing functions, and in your capacity as the State of Maine Refugee Coordinator you will be responsible for the development of the State Plan for Refugee Services. Your exceptional communication and negotiating skills will be utilized extensively as you build partnerships and collaborative work groups among the various ethnic and cultural constituent groups and the state, federal and community-based agencies providing services to these populations. Although you will report to the Deputy Commissioner for Integrated Services, you will work closely with the Immigrant Cabinet in identifying and prioritizing Office initiatives.

[url=http://www.maine.gov/statejobs/directhire/DirOfficeImmigrantMulticultura... Wanted[/url]

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There are LEGAL immigrants in Maine.

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Maine: a Sanctuary State for Illegal Aliens

[b]In order to improve services to minority and multicultural populations, DHHS with the support of the Office of the Governor is establishing the Office of Immigrant and Multicultural Services within the Department. The new office will provide support to and implement the recommendations of an Immigrant Cabinet to be established by Executive Order, in acknowledgement of the need within the State to provide strategic planning, policy development, and program implementation for services to those residents of Maine who are non-US Citizens. [/b]

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Maine: a Sanctuary State for Illegal Aliens

[quote="Dan Billings"]There are LEGAL immigrants in Maine.[/quote]

[b]The new office will provide support to and implement the recommendations of an Immigrant Cabinet to be established by Executive Order, in acknowledgement of the need within the State to provide strategic planning, policy development, and program implementation for services to those residents of Maine who are non-US Citizens.
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One can be a non-US citizen and be here legally.

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Maine: a Sanctuary State for Illegal Aliens

That's true Dan, but the governor declares Maine a sanctuary state, he makes it illegal to ask ones citizenship status, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who is going to benefit from this new department. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

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You are grasping at straws.

You are grasping at straws. There are 1000 legal Somali immigrants in Lewiston alone. Portland also has a large immigrant population.

Governor Baldacci is wrong. But anyone who thinks illegal immigration is one of Maine's top problems is nuts.

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Maine: a Sanctuary State for Illegal Aliens

[quote="Dan Billings"] But anyone who thinks illegal immigration is one of Maine's top problems is nuts.[/quote]

Immigration may not be Maine's biggest problem, but how are we going to know if it is even a problem with a cannot ask policy?

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Re: Maine: a Sanctuary State for Illegal Aliens

[quote="thumper109"]Maine: a Sanctuary State for Illegal Aliens

By Rep. Rich Cebra (R-Naples)

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" However, by giving protection to illegal
aliens, the order plainly breaks federal immigration laws, USC 8, 1325,
sections 274, 276, 277 and other statutes. It is a federal crime, for
instance, to "aid, abet, assist, encourage or induce an illegal alien to
remain in the United States."

###[/quote]Why has not the federal law superseded and put this executive order by Baldi' to rest?

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Maine: a Sanctuary State for Illegal Aliens

You got to be kidding, right Calvin? As Bush creates another attempted amnesty plan.

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Re: Maine: a Sanctuary State for Illegal Aliens

[quote="Calvin"]Why has not the federal law superseded and put this executive order by Baldi' to rest?
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Fedaral law does not control state employees. Federal authorities are still free to enforce federal law in Maine -- Baldacci's order does nothing about that -- but federal authorities have no control over state employees and can't commandeer state employees through federal law.

The Brady Bill, as originally passed, required local law enforcement to complete background checks. A Sheriff from Montana challenged the law and the Supreme Court said that the federal law could not require him to complete tasks enforcing federal law.

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Maine: a Sanctuary State for Illegal Aliens

[url]http://www.maine.gov/tools/whatsnew/index.php?topic=Gov+News&id=2172&v=A... Is this the Executive Order you are referring to? Because if it is, it does not "handcuff" or preclude law enforcement from investigating and apprehending illegal aliens. If a cop is investigating a crime and learns of the illegal status of the suspect, there is nothing to preclude the cop from taking action regarding the federal violation (i.e. notify ICE). State and local law enforcement HAVE NEVER had the authority to enforce federal immigration laws, so this EO has ZERO practical impact.

This EO also does not pertain to local law enforcement officials. Unless there is a policy locally established to the contrary, a deputy or police officer MAY inquire about immigration status. Having said that, just as YOU (assuming you are a white American)might not appreciate being ordered to produce evidence of citizenship or residency, nor would the person of Latino, Asian, African, or other descent who happens to be a US citizen or resident appreciate being subjected to the same demand. I believe there needs to be some reason beyond mere than appearnce or language ability before state and local authorities begin demanding documentation of citizenship or legal residency status from people.

If you were a Franco-American (Amerian citizen) from Lewiston stopped by police in Aroostook County for a traffic violation, are you prepared to be asked to produce evidence of citizenship or legal US residency based upon having a French accent or surname? What sort of proof can you produce? A driver's license or Maine ID card isn't proof of citizenship or residency.

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Maine: a Sanctuary State for Illegal Aliens

[quote="Dan Billings"][quote="Robert"]How would one truly know, with a don't ask policy in effect?[/quote]

Walk down the street -- unless the illegal are all white people, there aren't many here.[/quote]

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/23000.html

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Old thread, and it appears

Old thread, and it appears not much has changed. We recently saw the raids on two Mexican restaurants in Maine; now ICE is targeting some Chinese restaurants for money-laundering and hiring/hiding illegal immigrants.

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Posted: November 16

Federal sweep targets local Chinese restaurants
Federal immigration agents assisted by police conducted raids at several restaurants Wednesday, including one in Portland.

By Leslie Bridgers lbridgers@pressherald.com
Staff Writer

PORTLAND — Federal agents detained at least four people in a sweep of Asian restaurants Wednesday as part of a multi-year, multi-state investigation allegedly involving money laundering, illegal financial activities and the harboring, hiring and transporting of illegal aliens.

[url=http://www.pressherald.com/news/Reports-Federal-agents-at-Maine-restaura...

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WOW, that's an oldie but a

WOW, that's an oldie but a goodie! It only took 5 years to get my wish for a Governor who would rescind it and I'm proud to say Governor LePage did that ON DAY ONE!
RMC

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I knew that seeing this old

I knew that seeing this old thread would make you happy.
:)

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Network of restaurants broke laws, officials say

- By ANN S. KIM

WESTBROOK -....snip

Employees of the Zhang organization indicated that they have to work 70 or more hours each week without overtime pay or benefits and that no taxes are withheld....The couple's restaurants include Chinese buffets... where many of the transactions are in cash....

[url=http://www.pressherald.com/news/network-of-restaurants-broke-laws-offici...

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The article also indicates that staff are housed in filthy, moldy, dangerous conditions in properties owned by the restaurant chain owners. Also, state inspections have found serious health/safety violations at some of the restaurants. Wonderful.

The owners are thought to own at least 12 restaurants in Maine, Massachusetts and Rhode Island. Here are the ones raided in Maine:

Kon Asian Bistro in Portland
New China Super Buffet restaurant in Lewiston
Twin Super Buffet in Brewer
Super China Buffet in Waterville

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Possible violations - health, safety, illegal immigration, tax fraud and evasion, failure to withhold payroll taxes, money laundering, and more.

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Raynham and Somerset Chinese

Raynham and Somerset Chinese Restaurants Cited for More Than $180,000 in Restitution and Penalties for Minimum Wage, Child Labor and Retaliation Violations
Tuesday, October 11, 2011

The owners of two Chinese food restaurants ... Raynham and Somerset... to pay more than $52,000 in restitution... $129,000 ...penalties for intentional violations of the Massachusetts Minimum Wage, Child Labor and Anti-Retaliation Laws........Also cited... New York Chinese Buffet, located in Somerset, its corporate president Zhi Hao Zhang, also known as Zi Qian Zhang, age 44 of Swansea,

[url=http://www.just-pay.org/news/article.397028-Raynham_and_Somerset_Chinese...

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Our pal Zhang, in another kind of "news":

State police Foxwoods casino unit Oct. 26 2008Zi Qian Zhang, 738 Bark St., Swansea, Mass., criminal trespass; court date Nov. 7, New London Superior Court

[url=http://www.norwichbulletin.com/casinos/x1157499796/Police-Report-Oct-28]...

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What a swell bunch of people. Will they escape charges for any child slavery, health, safety, immigration and labor law we've got?

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3,254 sq foot home - 5

3,254 sq foot home - 5 bedrooms and 2.5 baths - not a five gallon bucket in sight.

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/738-Bark-St-Swansea-MA-02777/56881986_...

Last time the house sold, it was for ONE DOLLAR.

Beds: 5
Baths: 2.5
Sqft: 3,254
Lot: 130,244 sq ft / 2.99 acres
Type: Single Family
Year built: 1972
Last sold: November 18 2004 for $1
Parking: Garage - Attached
Cooling: --
Heating:
Fireplace: Yes
This 3254 square foot single family home has 5 bedrooms and 2.5 bathrooms. It is located at 738 Bark St Swansea, Massachusetts. This home is in the Somerset School District. The nearest schools are Chace Elementary School, Somerset Middle School and Somerset High School.

http://www.zillow.com/homes/56881986_zpid/
Link to an aerial photo of the Zhang family manse.

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America needs to round up the rats running these rackets, and send them all back to China.

To quote someone on PPH:

再見 ( good bye )

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AG orders owners of Raynham

AG orders owners of Raynham and Somerset buffets to pay $185,000 for ‘egregious wage and child labor violations’

Posted Oct 11, 2011 @ 11:38 AM

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“I had worked at Grand Chinese Buffet since for months with no pay,” said Fidela Martinez... 16 years old and pregnant while working for the restaurant. “They gave me a small room to live in with my boyfriend but would not pay me. They made me work excessive hours with no breaks."
...snip

John Zhang, son of Zhi Hao Zhang... said that the fines must be a big misunderstanding.

[url=http://www.tauntongazette.com/news/business_news/x1827973305/AG-orders-o...

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I wonder if the father, Zhi Hao Zhang, is the former owner of the Swansea manse now owned for $1 by John (Zi Qian) Zhang.

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