Mz Quimby has left behind her a trail of failed endeavors since hitting the jackpot with BBees.
This ego trip will be no different I suspect.
Always have to jab at the person, don't you Jeepn. S'all about you, my friend.
I already know of a Dr and former Maine college president that has bought a big x-hunting lodge "up North". So you are just flat out wrong jeepn.
Arcadia has miles and miles galore of roads and trails where one never sees the ocean...maybe a pond...or an occasional wetland area. They love it. They bike, they hike, they stroll, they drive, they ride horses, they tent, they RV...they love it.
You take for granted what others will drive long distances and pay money to experience. It's right in our backyard if we'd only wake up. Cha-ching !
Of course, somebody has to make those trails, groom them, nurture wildflower sites and lable them...keep them groomed, give guided tours, moniter trash removal, keep the slash down, etc etc etc..... Jobs, anyone?
Hate to burst a bubble but most of those "jobs" are performed by volunteers in places like Acadia and on the AT...
You want fries with that?
That's what they'll be teaching all those pliable young minds down at COA (near Arcadia(:?) if this monstrosity is allowed to get a foothold.
Fries are better than piles of animal guts and stale doughnuts. :) Sorry..couldn't resist.
Robert. I'm not sure what the volunteer vs. employee ratio is at Arcadia. I'm sure volunteers are a significant part of keeping the parks clean and inviting....but professionals are also needed and employed.
MAINE SNOWMOBILE ASSOCIATION_________________________
P.O. Box 80
Augusta, Maine 04332
MSA Reaffirms Opposition to National Park,
Condemns Coercive Tactics by Quimby Operatives
August 17, 2011
For Immediate Release
Contact: Bob Meyers, Executive Director
(207) 622-6983 Cell (207) 416-7166 e-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org
AUGUSTA – The directors of the Maine Snowmobile Association (MSA) voted unanimously at their August meeting to reaffirm their opposition to the creation of a national park in Maine’s north woods.
The directors cited the loss of local and state control to the federal government, the loss of traditional recreational activities and the intrusions on abutting private landowners within the confines of a national park. The MSA directors passed a similar resolution in 2001 and chose to renew their opposition in the face of recent proposals by Roxanne Quimby to create a federal park on land she owns between the East Branch of the Penobscot River and Baxter State Park.
Directors also expressed their outrage at recent efforts by Quimby land managers to coerce local snowmobile clubs to write letters of support for a park feasibility study with threats of a loss of access on Quimby lands. At meetings held in Brownville and Medway earlier in the month, Quimby land managers told local snowmobile clubs that in exchange for letters of support for a national park feasibility study, they would be allowed use of trails on her land for another year. This is in spite of written assurances of continued access to important north-south routes in the past.
“We’re disappointed that Ms. Quimby and her land managers feel the need to threaten the volunteers of these snowmobile clubs with a loss of access in order to advance their agenda,” said MSA Executive Director Bob Meyers. “Our members have the highest respect for the rights of private landowners, but to hold a gun to the heads of these volunteers is disgraceful. We believe it speaks volumes to the level of support that is really out there for Quimby’s park proposal.”
“It’s ironic”, said Meyers “that while Ms. Quimby speaks of her desire to spark economic activity in the region at public meetings; behind the scenes she and her representatives are threatening the livelihoods of dozens of small family-owned businesses in towns like Medway, Mount Chase, Patten and Brownville.”
The Maine Snowmobile Association represents 28,000 snowmobilers and 2,100 businesses in 287 snowmobile clubs statewide. These clubs, with the cooperation of thousands of private landowners, maintain 14,000 miles of snowmobile trails statewide. Recent estimates of the economic activity from snowmobiling in Maine exceed $300 million per year.
apondsong: I'm sure volunteers are a significant part of keeping the parks clean and inviting....but professionals are also needed and employed.
Professisonal what? Chamber maids? Souvenir shopkeepers?Trash haulers? And for how many months? Three, four at the most? This scheme doesn't come close to the payrange of forest industry jobs, or the many related businesses that survive off woods jobs. And the claim of all these McMansions the NRCM would have you believe exist is a misguided exaggeration at best.
And jeepn is right. With the exception of a couple of great views of Mt. Katahdin the highlight of the major portion of this land is a narrow gravel road through an even growth forest. Not much to see.
And while we're discussing all the wonders of Roxanne's woods, why is she removing all the bridges on her land?
The "professionals" statement is hilarious. By its very definition to keep the park the way Quimby envisions it, staffing has to be minimal. I mean, her own talking points include the "it's only 70,000 acres." How many "professionals" let alone volunteers and visitors can you fit into a 70,000 acre park and still maintain the intact ecosystem Roxanne so treasures?
The hits just keep on coming.
...her own talking points include the "it's only 70,000 acres." How many "professionals" let alone volunteers and visitors can you fit into a 70,000 acre park and still maintain the intact ecosystem Roxanne so treasures?
Good point. I've heard that 77,000 acres referred to as her "anchor park" which I'm sure it is in her mind and RESTORE's.
Short term; 70,000 acres.
Near term; 3.2 million acres
Long term; !0 million plus acres encompassing everything from the western boundary of the Adirondack Park all the way to the St John River to the north and beyond into Canada if at all possible.
Has anyone factored Black Fly Season's impact on tourism?
As I said earlier in this thread, They want to be able to get off the cruise ship in Bar Harbor, get on a Mercedes Benz bus and ride to Niagara Falls - without seeing any of us. It will take rural cleansing to accomplish their goal, but Secretary Salazar will be in Millinocket tomorrow to tell us how it will be done. His minions were here last September for a "listening session" about reconnecting Maine to the outdoors. We politely let Secretary Salazar that we didn't need to be reconnected with our outdoors. You see, we private citizens own 95% of Maine and it drives the hard green zealots nuts. We are already connected with our outdoors. We live work and play on the land we own.
On another note, it has been reported to me by our "backwoods spies", that the retreat of the elite has begun on RQ's land.
Someone was spotted staying at Roxy's Riter's Retreat near Haskell Deadwater for the last few weeks, ATVing to some of the better fishing spots on the East Branch and generally enjoying the fruits of his past associations in the north woods.
The scuttlebut is that he will be at Lunkasoos Camp next.
How much is a former SAM executive director going for these days??????
I always enjoyed that portion of the East Branch above my camp. Good fishing, several nice swimming spots. Enjoyed several visits with the former owners of Lunksoos and talking hunting and fishing......too bad....a real shame what truly is happening.
Well...edumacate me then. Because on one side of your faces, you cry about the depressed economy in northern Maine...no jobs...bad roads...no deer...paper companies that literally cut and run...woe is us. On the other hand, you don't want to do anything about it because you like to ride a snowmobile thru the woods in the winter and sit in your wilderness cabins a few weeks out of the year !
What I said in my other posts stand. Land that my dad and I hunted freely, 40 years ago, is now developed and POSTED galore. Apple trees cut down; topiarys planted. Prime alder stands (woodcook ground) torn up and grassed over.
I remember him telling me when I was but 10: "A lot of my old hunting grounds are gone now. It won't be long before this will be gone too...that used to be a great place to get a patridge...now look at it." And he was 100% correct. It didn't take long for all our favorite spots to get bought and developed...either with McMansions or double-wides. I moved where I did because of the wildness of the area. Since I've been here, almost the whole road has been posted and houses and trailers are going up every time you blink !
It's going to happen....sooner or later. If you don't act while there is time, it will be lost forever. And my best bet is, it will be lost to the McMansion loving set who like nothing better than to put up POSTED signs the minute they take over.
Mark my words.
So. What is YOUR vision for this property? Other than snowmobiling on it till it gets sold off to private homeowners ? You are dam lucky the person who has it right now, isn't chuncking it into lots; most would !!
The BEST way to preserve the northern Maine woods is to strive to make it profitable to grow, harvest, manufacture, and sell sustainably produced forest products, therby keeping the land in production hopefully forever.
The Dems of the last thirty years have done their best to prevent this scenario from taking place, driving all aspects of the forest products industry either offshore or to our north along the Quebec border.
Posted: 11:26 AM
Salazar seeking Mainers' views on national park idea
By Jonathan Riskind email@example.com
MaineToday Media Washington Bureau Chief
FREEPORT — The most successful drives to create a new national park come armed with "strong community support," U.S. Secretary of Interior Ken Salazar said today, as he began a swing through Maine that will include a public forum in Millinocket on the proposed North Woods National Park.
Salazar said the Obama administration does not yet have a position on the proposal by Roxanne Quimby...to give 70,000 acres next to Baxter State Park to the National Park Service.
Salazar and Sheherizade didn't find any community support today.
That's right, Roger. He was asked why he was in Millinocket, and who invited him, and that really irritated him. It was clear from his comments that his mind is already made up, IMO. We're in his close radar. TIme to rally the troops and show a strong concerted opposition to this federal takeover of Maine's forest industry, our access to the woods, and local control of the towns and locales within Roxy's park region.
Was I hearing things, or did he originally say, "I am the Secretary of the Interior, and I have the authority. I will have this authority until the day I die." ?
And what on EARTH was Cynthia Dill doing there?
Ugenetoo Wed, 08/17/2011 #100: "Short term; 70,000 acres. Near term; 3.2 million acres. Long term; !0 million plus acres encompassing everything from the western boundary of the Adirondack Park all the way to the St John River to the north and beyond into Canada if at all possible."
Here is how it fits together in terms of the history of how it was originally conceived and planned in the political context of the time. This is only a summary outline of the earliest stages but should be especially useful to those who are new to this. (You would think that real journalists would want to know all this and more, but activist reporters are too busy promoting the Restore/Quimby agenda.)
The 26 million acre target extends from the coast of Maine between Acadia and Canada, across 10 million acres in Maine, then across the northern parts of NH and VT, then into NY and across the Adirondacks. This was the target promoted in the Northern Forests Lands Study run by the US Forest Service to promote an Adirondacks, Columbia Gorge style "Greenline" park with land use prohibitions and Federal acquisition.
The "study" and the area targeted were arranged in advance by the viro pressure groups -- Natural Resources Council of Maine, Audubon, Maine Coast Heritage Trust, etc. in Maine, and similar pressure groups with insider connections in the other three states. It was arranged through the four states' Congressional delegations and authorized by Congress. The Maine Coast Heritage Trust was already planning for how to control the downeast region in formal arrangements with the National Park Service.
The people impacted by this were kept in the dark until the promotion started in 1988, and then still weren't told the truth by the advocates. The meaning of Greenline controls was discovered only by researching the areas promoted as "models" (the viros haven't used the term "Greenline" in public since then). This political "study", contrived to promote an agenda in the usual way, tore the state apart for years, and attempts to implement it in Congress had to be beaten back several times.
The four-state 26 million acre Greenline is intended to control whatever private property is left outside National Parks -- by imposing land use prohibitions on property nominally owned privately but controlled by an interstate Greenline authority operating under Federal authority. People inside a Greenline don't have the same rights as those outside. LURC has been intended to be exploited to keep the land in the Maine UT tied up until the full controls are put into place.
Within the 26 million acre region are several enormous new National Park targets, including five in Maine, covering of millions of acres. Some of these planned National Parks are intended to extend into Canada as international parks. A big expansion at Acadia is included in addition to the five new areas, which also caused a big outcry there when the Ellsworth American published the maps.
The National Park Service takeover part of the campaign for northern New England is identified as a strategic top priority as part of the National Park System Plan put together by the National Parks and Conservation Association (NPCA), the private lobby arm of the National Park Service. NPCA operated in collaboration with the National Park Service itself and other national pressure group lobbyists like the Wilderness Society, the Sierra Club, etc., using outside funding, much of it from Laurence Rockefeller. It targeted areas all over the country, with New England emphasized as a "priority".
The 3.2 million acre Restore target is one of the new area targets in Maine fingered in the National Park System Plan. The 70,000 acre Quimby land is part of that, intended to be what Quimby has called a "seed" and a "down payment" for the rest in an incrementalist strategy, knowing that she doesn't have the power and money to buy all of it herself and that it is too soon to try to get political support for much more at this stage.
This is why BDN advocacy articles repeatedly and without explanation insist that the Quimby plan has nothing to do with the rest of the 10 million acres in the UT -- because it does and they don't want people to realize that. They want people to drop the context of the full meaning of what she is doing and where it is intended to lead. They want to lead you by the nose in narrowing what you are supposed to think, from the scope of the plan, to the bogus marketing repackaging claiming that the wilderness agenda is for "the economy". They want to reduce you to the perceptual level of thought in the form of "here now isolated event" without the benefit of conceptual and principled understanding.
The NPCA/NPS National Park System Plan also includes an agenda for a guaranteed annual Federal entitlement for acquisition, called the "Trust Fund", and plans to make the National Park System an independent agency with no accountability to Congress. The viros have especially pushed for the Trust Fund several times in Congress and have come close to getting an annual entitlement in the form of billions of dollars per year. They know they only have to win once and they have virtually unlimited funding for acquisitions. There have also been serious bills in Congress attempting to grant the National Park Service the open-ended authority to acquire land outside parks as "buffer zones".
The 26 million acre region across four states is the area referred to by Brock Evans in his infamous 1990 "take it all speech" at Tufts University in Massachusetts, and by Michael Kellet at the same meeting when he asserted that he thinks that most of the 26 million acres will end up in Federal ownership. Stephen Harper, the US Forest Service official who ran the Northern Forests Land Study was also there, crowing over his 'contributions'.
Brock "Take it all" Evans was at the time a VP of Audubon and Michael "Take it All" Kellet was New England Director of the Wilderness Society. Kellet soon became Executive Directory of his newly created Restore and Evans subsequently became head of the Endangered Species Coalition in Washington. Evans was a founding board member of Restore and is still there. The board of directors of Restore has also from the beginning included several other big shots from the national preservationist lobby -- the Sierra Club, etc. (Both Kellet and St Pierre came from the Wilderness Society.)
After years of secret planning in the 1980s, the viros launched a full promotion in Congress together with a national media campaign for the whole agenda beginning in the spring of 1988 (and lasting for years), expecting that they would have the political momentum to pull it off before anyone could stop them. In northern New England and New York dozens of state, regional and national pressure groups organized under the "Northern Forest Alliance". The Natural Resources Council of Maine fronted for the NPCA National Park agenda in Maine.
At the time, the viro pressure groups in Maine and elsewhere had everyone so morally intimidated that almost no one would openly speak out against them. (The Big Park campaign changed that in Maine and many other regions.)
They expected to be able to pull off this audacious plan to seize control of millions of acres of private property because they had already been doing it elsewhere. The Reagan administration was over and the viros expected to pick up where they had left off under Carter and his Interior Secretary Cecil Andrus.
In the 1970s there had been massive new National Park takeovers across the country, i.e., they had already become accustomed to getting their way. The National Park Service travesty at Cuyahoga documented in the PBS Frontlines video For the Good of All is an example of that, unique only in that it was caught on film by documentarians.
The national viro pressure groups had also pulled off the Columbia Gorge interstate Greenline takeover in Oregon and Washington in the early 80s and had come close under Carter to getting national Greenline land use controls for the National Park Service to go where it wanted to impose them. On the eve of the beginning of the Reagan administration they had also just imposed National Park Service control over millions of acres in Alaska under the Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act (ANILCA).
That was an era when the viros were getting almost anything they wanted; they saw the Reagan administration as a temporary setback. The National Park System Plan was developed by NPCA in collaboration with National Park Service officials operating outside of the National Park Service because they couldn't do it inside the government during the Reagan years. It was all expected to come back together after Reagan.
In other words, following the massive National Park takeovers in the 1970s across the country, and after what they saw as only a temporary setback during the Reagan years, millions of acres of private property in Maine and northern New England were intended to be next -- and they had reason to expect they could pull it off. They thought they could wrest the land from paper companies and from politically naive and helpless rural individuals who wouldn't be able to stop them. When you watch the Cuyahoga documentary For the Good of All remember that what you are seeing is what they had in store for Maine and still want.
The arrogant mentality of the National Park Service documented in For the Good of All is everywhere, as I have observed myself over and over in Maine and elsewhere, including offices in Washington, DC.
I have also observed that they don't act like that openly in public when they are selling something, making promises and issuing reassurances in order to get more power -- hence the smooth talking dog and pony show by Salazar in Maine this week. A government official from the Obama administration said 'we are here to help you'; don't trust him. Quimby Care is not good for you.
Old Dame Fortune Fri, 08/19/2011 #110: "And what on EARTH was Cynthia Dill doing there?"
She isn't from Earth. Dill is a radical progressive and Quimby activist. (And look at the kind of Huffington Post style rhetoric she uses -- this is a state senator?)
Dill is one of only 3 state senators, all in Cumberland County in the south, to oppose the resolution in the legislature rejecting the National Park takeover agenda and telling the Federal government to stay out. The resolution passed 31-3 in the Senate and unanimously without challenge in the House.
It was quite an affront to Maine for Salazar and Jarvis to come to Maine on a sales pitch, declaring that they invited themselves, after being explicitly told by the state legislature to butt out with their Federal intrusion campaign -- the audacity of the Federal power grab is becoming increasingly nasty.
"WE, your Memorialists, the Members of the One Hundred and Twenty-fifth Legislature of the State of Maine now assembled in the First Regular Session, most respectfully present and petition the President of the United States, the United States Secretary of the Interior and the United States Congress as follows:
RESOLVED: That We, your Memorialists, oppose the creation of a national park in Maine's north woods and request that the President of the United States and Secretary of the Interior Kenneth Salazar deny requests to conduct a feasibility study concerning establishing a national park in Maine's north woods; and be it further
RESOLVED: That suitable copies of this resolution, duly authenticated by the Secretary of State, be transmitted to the Honorable Barack H. Obama, President of the United States, to the Secretary of the Interior, Kenneth Salazar, to the President of the United States Senate, to the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives and to each Member of the Maine Congressional Delegation."
The data show that a National Park wouldn't CREATE jobs, it would DELETE jobs. We have, within one county, the ninth most popular national park. The evidence suggests that Acadia does not create, net, even one job. It does, however, take a lot of land off the tax rolls and out of our (Augusta's) control. Indeed, it would likely erode some of the draw of Baxter Park, which we DO control.
One final note: I beleive there's a reason Quimby does not want a national "Preserve".
Would a "preserve" be better than a park? Somewhat -- but it would still displace real income and jobs.
I fail to see how this supposed Park in northern Maine is going to displace jobs...since that is one of their biggest woes...jobs & income! It isn't like this is a booming area that will be hit hard by a National Park being established in their thriving midst.
Paper companies have been logging trees there ever since I was born. Lumber galore...if it hasn't helped the area establish lumber sustainable jobs and incomes YET.....well....sell me a bridge whydon'tcha.
Now...I just realized (from reading TJC's informative link) that the real threat that most of the folks up north are feeling, is the threat of NO HUNTING. At least..that's my thinking. I guess there must be some sporting camps near that area and private hunting cabins...etc. Well. No wonder you're worried !!! That explains a lot.
OK. Why not just say that in the first place ? Because I don't know for the life of me what jobs out that way are going to be harmed by this, other than hunting camps. I guess they make really good money afterall, during the hunting season ! And that's OK. Not a snide comment...just an observation. Hummm...yes...and outfitters, and meat processors.... Ok. " I hear you". But people will come to snowmobile, and snowshoe, and hike, and x-country ski, and go on wildlife/bird guided tours, and photo-shoots. It's a matter of adjusting. BUT ~~~~>
I say go for a compromise....part National Park and part National Perserve. You can hunt and harvest wood on a perserve. I know...Roxanne doesn't want a Perserve...but she has proven to be open to compromise before, and I have a feeling she would be now. Is it feasible? Don't know. I don't even know if I'm in the ballpark ...just "thinking out loud".
Dill shows up anywhere the cameras are available. Like her hero, President Obama, she's a perpetual candidate.... and a publicity hound.
Some of the tv newscasts on Salazar's public appearances tried to make it look like he had large approval from the audience. The shots were tight on anyone applauding. However, when the cameras panned back, you could see that many people weren't clapping for his comments.
I hope he got the message loud and clear - Maine is not for sale to the Feds.
ewv - thank you, as always, for the comprehensive and considered contributions to the forum. That kind of information is invaluable.
"The evidence suggests that Acadia does not create, net, even one job"
According to the NPS visitors spend 3-4 days in the area, the head of Acadia National Park in Maine says more than 2.5 million people visited the park last year.
I can't imagine how 2.5 million visitors does not create jobs, not only in the immediate area but statewide?
What an interesting day it was yesterday.
Turns out that the federal government in the person of Interior Secretary Ken Salazar decided to come down here of his own volition to "help" the northern Maine people despite the fact that no one asked for help from the federal government.
He's from the government, and he was here to help.
He asked for questions, but frankly, most of us had none, aside from who invited him, which he seemed to be a tad disingenuous about.
He alluded to the 70,000 acres Mrs. Quimby wants to give to the federal government for a national park, but he said "10 million acres" more times than he did "70,000 acres" in reference to the amount of land the federal government might or might not be considering taking for yet another national park.
He took "questions" from pro and con alternately, which I thought was fair enough, though as I said, the segment of the audience which did not want federal government intrusion had no questions. We offered comments instead.
The interesting thing was that with few exceptions (Buzz Caverly and some Medway residents), those who talked about taking the land away from local control were from elsewhere. They started their comments off with things like "I backpack up here," or "I've hiked all over this country."
While I admit that it's sorta cute that they seem to be taking an interest, I couldn't help but think, "How about we put their backyards under federal control?"
Being a gal who is steeped in decorum, I did not say it out loud. (Okay. Maybe not steeped...)
In the end, Mr. Salazar said that there were "three options" the government had:
1. He could recommend that Mr. Obama use the "Antiquities Act" to simply take over the land for the federal government. (He did say he was not going to do that.)
2. He could recommend to Congress that they do a study -- which we usually refer to as a "feasibility study," though that's incorrect. A feasibility study is just one of three studies involved. He said that this option could take years, and it would, in the end, be up to Congress to accept the study's results and take the land over for the federal government.
3. He could do a "recon study," which costs $25,000 and is what he declared he has the authority to do. This is when, as someone earlier in this thread talked about when he said that he has the authority "until the day I die." (He did realize what he said and that it could perhaps be an allusion to a dictatorship, and he quickly corrected himself.) It was a pretty good indicator of who he really is, sort of like one of those spooky movies where Jack Nicholson, for just a moment, shows his real intentions on his face before recovering.
Perhaps it's an indicator of how authoritarians from the federal government think, but he did not seem to realize that he had a fourth option, which is to simply slink back to Washington or perhaps go somewhere else uninvited, announcing his affiliation and intention with no apparent idea of the irony.
I suggest Cape Elizabeth, where Cynthia Dill lives, given her enthusiasm for the feds to interfere with the local control which non-moonbat Mainers are familiar with as their right.
From MPBN's "Salazar Gets Earful on Proposed Maine National Park": …Salazar says he hasn't taken a position on a second national park in Maine. But his mere presence suggests that, despite widespread opposition from elected officials and others, the federal government is willing to explore the possibility…"That... some unknown federal bureaucrat, going to come down here and is going to impose a 10 million acre park that's going to kick out the community and its way of life. That's ain't going to happen, OK?"
From WLBZ news (video as well as written news article): According to Ken Salazar there are two ways the park can be created. Either the President can use his authority to establish it or Congress can. For Congress to approve the park officials would have to conduct a special resource study. The park would also have to meet a standard of national significance, be feasible and suitable.
Exactly Swaybar. Of course it creates jobs...all kinds !! I, myself, am benefiting from Arcadia's allure to the tourists and natives, alike. And I live a very fair distance away from there as well ! That argument is a dead horse as far as I'm concerned. And that is exactly what they all whine about....NO JOBS..BAD ROADS...ad infinitum !
I still don't get the knee-jerk reaction to this one...other than the "no hunting" issue.
Go figure. Maybe killing all the coyotes will make it all better for um. Idunno.
The image of Cynthia Dill jumping up to take a photo of the poor hoodwinked voters in the town of Medway will forever be burned into my memory.
I wonder if she thought she was getting a shot of the natives in their natural habitat before she marched her Birkkies back to the Volvo for the scary ride home from the wilderness.
Probably traumatized for having to leave for the city after dark.
My take on that Medway town meeting was not really a vote for a national park so much as a vote to piss off the Millinocket town council.
These intertown rivalries run deep up here as anyone from the area will tell you.
Even to the detriment of the parties involved.
RQ is using Jihad techniques to divide and conquor.
As will be evidenced in a future posting.
Michelle: What community is going to be "kicked out" ? What would be so awful if the land was split between Park & Perserve status; hunting allowed, as well as logging in designated areas(perserve status)...camping and recreational venues the other(park status) ?
Do you not "get it" that Quimby could be chunking up this land for multi-millionaire condo-retreat development ? Or simply get fed up, sell it to the Nature Conservancy and write it off as a loss ?
Your wilderness will not last forever. The times; they are a changin'