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anonymous_coward
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-23/mcdonalds-replacing-2500-human-...

It continues to irritate me how bright eyed young Dems try to push for a higher minimum wage without taking any economics classes, and now we have this.

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This is what happens when you

This is what happens when you let idiots Democrats and gutless Republicans make laws prodded on by the Dumb Masses known as the American Electorate.

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Employees are expensive and

Employees are expensive and employers are doing away with them. The threat of $15 might be a catalyst but the reality is that self absorbed, smart phone raised customers are warming up to the convenience and speed of mechanical elves. The anticipated consumer rejection never materialized so, full speed ahead! Plus, there are other ways to save. The drive thru window in the McDonalds at exit 96 in Missoula, MT, has a drink robot. The cups drop onto a conveyer and the drinks fill themselves. No more mis-fills, spills or free sodas out that window.

According to the link, McDs does 70% of their business through the drive thru. McDs drive thru customers probably don't give a rats ass about anything that exists beyond the window.

I was at an Outback just a few days ago. The waitress took my order on her hand held POS, moved on to another table and within seconds, there was someone else with my drink. The waitress didn't have to run anything until she had made her rounds. I don't know that the technology cost anyone a job but there was no one standing around with their hands in their pockets.

Cash is expensive, too. Did anyone catch the Cash = Germs and Disease articles circulating last week? Right click, search and click the news tab. HERE'S ONE. There will be a lot more of those before the banksters actually stage an outbreak. They and Ralph and Rita Retail are going to be very happy when we do away with cash and cash handlers.

Bruce Libby
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taxfoe

taxfoe
I am at a convention in Palms springs ,Ca., Marriot Resort. 4 plus restaurants and vendors .
Resort staff push electronic pay as it saves them time . Vendors 20 plus , all had smartphone card reader attached
to process sales which are reflected in their accts. very quickly.

As for fast food places , a while ago at a Wendys' and customer approached counter with a roll in his hand. He looked at clerk and
said , " you forgot my burger", clerk responded "you said cheese only" ! Bring on the technology !

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Advances in technology has

Advances in technology has been reducing the number of employees needed to operate for decades..... look at the paper mills, steel mills, manufacturing in general ....It was the only option for ever increasing payrolls.....
The retail sector is no different..... Amazon and other online services are eliminating the need for brick and mortar facilities ......more are people ordering their groceries online cheaper than you can buy them at the store........the list goes on.
Prediction, as computers get smarter...and smarter..... tech jobs will go the same route.......By that time we will have run out out of Kcals and we'll all starve to death anyway so it won't matter.

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New UW study finds Seattle's

New UW study finds Seattle's higher minimum wage hurts workers

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SEATTLE - A newly released study from the University of Washington says Seattle's increased minimum wage is actually hurting workers. But already others are coming forward to say that the study's findings are flawed.
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No, dude. Seriously?

The article is thin gruel. No link or much else from the study but plenty of info about those who disagree with it's findings. Seattle has lots of restaurants. A reporter wouldn't have to walk too far to track down a few of the researched.

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Bruce if you are still in

Bruce if you are still in Palm Springs and have time take the tramway up to the top of San Jacinto Mountain.....I was out there a couple of weeks ago....... And ain't it hot out there...makes you appreciate just how green and water rich Maine is....

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@johnw: "Prediction, as

@johnw: "Prediction, as computers get smarter...and smarter..... tech jobs will go the same route.......By that time we will have run out out of Kcals and we'll all starve to death anyway so it won't matter."

Most tech jobs will move to India before they get taken over by robots (I just lost my job to India this month, in fact). The ones that remain are essentially translating what people want into what machines want, so in a sense, we're already just translators for robots.

But your point still stands - a lot of finance jobs (traders in particular) have been replaced by AI software, and even accounting and legal jobs are starting to get replaced by software (Quicken & LegalZoom).

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Apparently, the UW study on

Apparently, the UW study on Seattle's minimum wage hike excluded a ton of data:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/06/27/seattle...

I still don't think it's a very good policy tool for helping working poor people, but excluding businesses that have more than one location (uh how do you do a minimum wage study and exclude McDonald's???) seems like first class hackery to me.

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johnw

johnw
Sorry I missed this post.
Yes, we were there 21st to 28th. We did Tramway. amazing view of area forsure.
Hot, the lowest daytime temp. we saw was 118 ,120+ rest of time.

The only vegatation that is native is on top of that mountain.The lack of greenery was striking.
As my said look out of hotel room and it looks like a old movie dropback. Of course which it was .
Other than a tour we took around area I holed up in hotel for visitthere as my wife attended her convention.
I must say this was a Marriot Resort and the help was super nice. Many with long employment there.
They have the same problem getting help so work had to keep them.

The other thing that surprized me was the windfarms. Forget mountain tops there were hundreds of them in Valley.

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Democrats have no interest in

Democrats have no interest in those who work, the selling out of the US labor force to China proved that.

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Tom C, that's the biggest

Tom C, that's the biggest crock of revisionist history I've ever encountered. A total joke.

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The Matrix < bring on the

The Matrix < bring on the technology.

Spent a week away from the kitchen and after that week was glad to be back home where there was fresh vegetables and cooking food for myself.

Fast food is garbage, like eating what comes out the other end. Restaurant food is hit and miss every so often you can get a good meal but I can make something better almost every time myself.

As the masses strive for becoming coppertop batteries I'll cook my own thank you.

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@Tom C: I don't usually agree

@Tom C: I don't usually agree with Matt's trolling but he's right, claiming the Dems are responsible for China's manufacturing boom is pretty silly.

If anything, it's Walmart, whose pressure on suppliers to cut costs accelerated the globalization process. (To be fair to Walmart, they were single-handedly responsible for eliminating inflation in the 90's. If anything, they've done more for poor people than any government program except for Medicaid.)

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Tom C, that's the biggest

Tom C, that's the biggest crock of revisionist history I've ever encountered. A total joke.

Matt you're an idiot. Clinton opened the door to foreign trade.

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Tom I respectfully disagree

Tom I respectfully disagree with you , the Bush's are also globalist...Bubba never had an original thought in his life....The globalists would just love to have a global working slave class......in the words of Mayor Nagin a nice milk chocolate color......In the end there would be the powerful and then,everyone else.
I think that's the ultimate goal.........

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buba Bush pushed China into

buba Bush pushed China into the world trade organization or what did they call it normalized it right after the world trade center attack and his "you are either with us, or the Russians, as is apparently now".

What a wondrous web they weave for those that will not question the dogma. Dogma, what the dog relieves after you put it out.

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In Tom C's trumpswab

In Tom C's trumpswab alternative facts universe, when 3/4 of republicans vote for something and 2/3 of dems vote against it, it means that it was the LEFT that sold out American workers, not the right.

And it was under dub's watch that corporations actually started shipping the 5 million manufacturing jobs overseas.

Those are the facts, doofus.

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Matt

Matt

I think W Bush is the the most unappreciated mass murderer and all around serial killer of the immediate future, but Obama ponied up as he was obviously want to do about everything, you know the man was the best at bullshitalogy.

But on that long legged Mack-daddy routine and have Chris Matthews get a tingling in his leg , pitiful BS from the MSN.

Sad about Trump though, the asshole campaigns on less confrontation between nations and then falls right in with the beltway BS. typical though, as as long as there was money in DC, your grandmothers savings.

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