More evidence of Maine's "Objective" journalism

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Olde Timer
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More evidence of Maine's "Objective" journalism

Stumbled on this on Facebook. The staff of the Village Soup wearing their anti-Lepage fake women's beards. Not only poor journalistic ethics, but bragging about it online.

Naran
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Hey - we need to be kind. I

Hey - we need to be kind. I remember when I had my first beer, too.
:)

Vic Berardelli
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A private business can do

A private business can do whatever it wishes but I was appalled to see on a TV news program the other night that female municipal employees inside Veazie Town Hall were doing the beard stunt. Frankly, I think it was a stupid comment and LePage deserves the backlash (when will he undergo intensive communications training to develop a mental filter before he speaks?!?!) but I draw the line at government employees on government time being allowed to make political statements. And the fact that they called a TV station to get a camera crew compounded the abuse of a tax-funded office being politicized, in my opinion.

Here's the WABI-TV 5 story:
http://www.wabi.tv/news/18391/maine-women-wear-beards-for-little-beard-day

Naran
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Agreed. Can we imagine the

Agreed. Can we imagine the howls of outrage, had some R supporters done this if Baldacci was on the receiving end?

Moving Forward
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Do you still have the

Do you still have the Facebook link for that event? I can't seem to find it on their site.

Vic Berardelli
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I'm amazed that after 48

I'm amazed that after 48 hours this discussion is the only place one hears any comment about the abuse of municipal employees participating in a political act on town time in a government office!

Naran
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I just submitted a comment on

I just submitted a comment on the WABI web page, linked above.

Those who wish to lodge a polite question or comment via email with the town manager, may do so at the address below:

William Reed, Veazie Town Manager
veazietm@aol.com

http://www.veazie.net/Public_Documents/VeazieME_Manager/index

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Here's mine:

Mr. Reed,

As a Maine resident, I take exception to your staff engaging in a "Little Beards" political stunt on municipal property, on potential work time. If this had been directed toward former Gov. Baldacci, would it be condoned by your office?

This shows a lack of respect for the Maine Governor. It's also a violation of appropriate behavior for a municipal office.

I would hope the staff members are appropriately counseled as to their misguided actions on town property.

Thank you,
Naran Row-Spaulding
Managing Editor
As Maine Goes.com

Mike Lange
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Oh, come on, folks. Lighten

Oh, come on, folks. Lighten up. The town manager of Greenville used to come to work on Halloween day in a Batman costume.

I'm not sure I'd permit my staff to publicize their mischief on Facebook and I sure as hell wouldn't notify a TV station. But it really isn't a big deal. And yes, some would have done it if the remark was made by Baldacci, too.

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As a Maine resident, I take

As a Maine resident, I take exception to your staff engaging in a "Little Beards" political stunt on municipal property, on potential work time. If this had been directed toward former Gov. Baldacci, would it be condoned by your office?

This shows a lack of respect for the Maine Governor. It's also a violation of appropriate behavior for a municipal office.


~ [It] is called "humor." We know this has been lacking in Augusta for a long time. Sadly, I believe the lengthy dearth of "humor" has rendered some activists incapable of recognizing the phenomenon. Maybe there's an available government grant, for some remedial classes.

Naran
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Sorry - not on municipal

Sorry - not on municipal property. If I can't use the municipal public access channel for conservative fiscal/political programs, they can't use town hall for liberal political stunts.

Fair is fair.

The "Beards" thing itself, available on Facebook and elsewhere, is funny. I thought the app on FB was hilarious.

Just not on municipal, county, state, or school district property.

Time and Place.

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Mike Lange - Batman isn't partisan. Batman isn't political. Batman is just cool.
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Vic Berardelli
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Mike: There is a big

Mike: There is a big difference between a Haloween costume and making political statements on government property and on taxpayer-paid time. The Veazie Town Hall employees acted improperly and, obviously, Channel 5 wouldn't have been there if it hadn't been contacted to find out about it. So they entered into a partisan stunt on taxpayer money. That is the issue. I have no qualm with private businesses; it is up to the owner and/or manager to spell out their own employee conduct policies. But never, ever should anyone in a taxpayer-funded position make any political statement or display on work time and inside the government venue.

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Mike may be a news guy, but

Mike may be a news guy, but IMO he's a bit too laid back on this matter. I have a problem with staffers for a newspaper chain taking part in such political frivolity. Newspapers are held in very low regard by large segments of the public now. This kind of dopey behavior -- which has the appearance, at least, of taking sides -- only makes it worse.

Earl Nickerson . Jr
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The Soup(The Republican

The Soup(The Republican Journal , The Waldo Independent) hasn't been a REAL newspaper for a very long time...They are pathatic...Print outright lies...Cover up misdeeds by the Belfast City Council..Not report on school board meetings to name just a few things about them....All they do is liberal fluff pieces and court news...

Green-ee
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The Village Soup is

The Village Soup is irrelevant. Town/ State / Federal employees shouldn't use their positions to make political statements.

Jim Cyr
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WCSH, of course, is even

WCSH, of course, is even worse. My latest fave from them was a long piece Don Carrigan did the other day outside the State House rally by SEIU/MEA. The camera focused on one guy holding up a big sign with LePage's face superimposed onto a photo of Kaddhafi (you know?.....the murderous, ruthless dictator??)
Not a problem......that is UNTIL Carrigan then proceeded to INTERVIEW same individual, and of course Donnie asked him about the vile, "uncivil" sign with a grand total of...........(wait for it, wait for it)............ZERO questions!!
Pathetic.

Naran
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Response from Bill Reed,

Response from Bill Reed, Veazie Town Manager:

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Dear Naran,

On Friday I was out of the office at a trainning. Needless to say I will be reviewing what occured on Friday first thing Monday morning.

Thank you for taking the time to write your concerns and this matter will be reviewed.

Sincerely
Bill Reed
Veazie Town Manager
Veazie Town Office
1084 Main Street
Veazie, Maine 04401

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I thank the town manager for his response. It may be that this town needs a clear policy about such events on municipal property. This may be a "learning moment," from which I hope all can benefit.

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Bill is a conservative. My

Bill is a conservative. My guess is that he will take this seriously.

Vic Berardelli
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When Bill consults with town

When Bill consults with town hall staff they can't deny it because they're on Channel 5 video!

threeifbywire
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Always cheery to see AMG

Always cheery to see AMG helping the state crack down on dissent.

Olde Timer
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Anyone know someone at

Anyone know someone at Village Soup to make the same inquiry?

Naran
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Unlike Veazie Town Hall, the

Unlike Veazie Town Hall, the Village Soup is a private corporation. I don't see the two as the same, in terms of improper activities.

Threeifbywire -- wait until it's something you don't like that your town hall feels they can espouse, using municipal property and staff.

FLAMMENWERFER
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The Village Soup has

The Village Soup has published my columns from time to time, so I figure I'm entitled to share Mike Lange's laid-back attitude.

ListenASec
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No matter who protests in

No matter who protests in what way, it was still an asinine comment to make.

I wonder what the protests would look like if it was a female law-maker/official making a similar comment about BPA, but the reference was about man-boobs instead of little beards. Yikes!

Naran
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General Manager Departs Maine

General Manager Departs Maine TV Stations
Submitted by Al Diamon on Tue, 03/08/2011 - 10:47am.

Razor burn: ... As Maine Goes Web ... often a hotbed of unsubstantiated claims of liberal media bias, but it would be tough to argue with this one. An AMG poster discovered a photo of female staff members at the Republican Journal i... taking part in the “little beards” protest....

This may have been intended as a joke, but somebody should have realized the implications for the paper’s credibility, and put a stop to it before it ended up on Facebook.

(Disclosure: My weekly political column runs in the Republican Journal. And I have a beard. But not a “little” one.”)

[url=http://www.downeast.com/media-mutt/2011/march/general-maine-stations]Sou...

Jason in SoPo
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I find it laughable that a

I find it laughable that a lightweight on the Maine political scene such as Jim Cyr has the nutsack to question the likes of the iconic Don Carrigan. Hey Jim...the point of the event was to cover people who disagree with the Governor's policies. These people were all carrying signs. Was Don supposed to ask them about every one?!?!? The irony in all this is the fact that you're posting on AS MAINE GOES really shows your political biases, Jim. Say hi to your friend Mr. Lepage for us, will you please? Thanks.

Naran
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Jason - AMG has members of

Jason - AMG has members of all political stripes. As your new membership should prove.

Thank you.

Virgil Kane
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In general, I agree with

In general, I agree with Naran's suggestion that a government (town) office and a private newspaper are apples and oranges in this context.

But, I'm not sure I agree that government employees should have freedom of speech rights curtailed due to employment status. Either way, I think people need to stop pretending that journalists are (or are supposed to be) objective.

Naran
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Virgil - government employees

Virgil - government employees are free to express themselves on their off-duty hours, with or without little beards. It's the events on town property to which I object.

As for journalists, these days, there's too many after the "gotcha" moments, and not enough concerned with 'Who, what, where, when, how, and why."

atlasshrugged
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Yeah, how wonderful AMG is we

Yeah, how wonderful AMG is we now have Jason in SOPO here to educate us barbarians. The next think you know the wanker will start talking to us like he is a Brit and start demanding local stores sell Wink. I really excited about this one. Numbnuts indeed. Welcome to AMG Jason in SoPo. Know anyone that ever paid a visit to Bradley, Maine?

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Jason: Are you suggesting

Jason: Are you suggesting that the "Jim Cyr" posting on AMG is the same Jim Cyr that reports for WGME-TV?? I don't think that's the case. Don Carrigan is an icon?? According to whom? Or were you being sarcastic?

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