Murtha ~ Marines killed Iraqi civilians 'in cold blood'

So let's give em a medal and put them on the Mexican border .......

Someone has installed a "dummy" button on Murtha's mouth. He sure made headlines in all the muslim press around the world. He wasn't there and seems to think he is a judge that can try and convict a soldier because of his positions. Shame on him.

NBC Promotes as 'New' Murtha's Stale Charge About Marines Killing Iraqi Civilians

On the six month anniversary of Democratic Congressman John Murtha's successful publicity stunt call for the U.S. to withdraw from Iraq, Wednesday's NBC Nightly News jumped on the chance to highlight Murtha's charge that last November some Marines deliberately killed more than a dozen innocent Iraqi civilians. But in treating Murtha as some kind of authoritative figure making “new allegations,” NBC ignored how the fairly well established as accurate charge (pictures exist of the immediate aftermath and three Marine officers were relieved of their commands) is old and has already been widely-reported -- including on the March 20 NBC Nightly News.

From the article: ""These guys are under tremendous strain -- more strain than I can conceive of " and "This is especially true when a fellow soldier has been killed. "Once you reach that point, all sorts of restrictions you may place on yourself are removed,"

Doesn't sound like "cold blood" to me.

I wonder why Murtha used that term?

Perhaps he was LYING?

When I hear things like this I wish we would bring back dueling.

Good point Snowalker, we could use a bit of non-pc, you are not my world, for solving our border issues.

I am starting to feel bad for Ltc. Murtha. He has done such harm to himself that there are no retired of former officers coming to his aid, his defence, or even trying to come to his aid anylonger.

He and his office will nolonger take calls from men who served with him or kenw him. As a matter of fact, his officve has reverted to actually raising their voices and lying to men who call and ask to remind him of one thing or another.

Ltc. Col Murtha, like Major Longley has lost his grass routes support and any and all credibility within the retired and former officer and NCO corp. I feel bad for him. A moments glory and a lifetime of being shunned by those he served with.

Murtha still flapping his gums but has nothing to say about the enemy.

Murtha, the new "John Kerry" Do you think he's positioning for a run at the presidency with backing from the anti-US anti-military left?

The above is just anonther reason why people should support Diana Irey in November http://www.irey.com/

There is also a great Political Cartoon about this race: http://www.patriotart.com/posted/index.htm

Thank you for the link, Mike.
A contribution is on its way in honor of my father - in hopes that Ms. Irey successfully topples Murtha and sends him home for good.

Probably the only guy in town willing to tell the truth.

Before you all go piling on to Murtha more, maybe you ought to read this.

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Sorry you feel that way, Country.

Let's let the investigation go forward and if any Marines are found guilty, justice should and will be served. Don't worry, if guilty these men will be punished severely.

Until then, Murtha should shut his big, whimpering mouth.

Any true Marine would.

What about the Iraqi unit working with the Devil Dogs that day. The MSM conveniently ignores.

Let's let the investigation go forward and if any Marines are found guilty, justice should and will be served. Don't worry, if guilty these men will be punished severely.

Until then, Murtha should shut his big, whimpering mouth.

Any true Marine would.

Since you know what a "true Marine" is, I assume you served in the Corps? John Murtha volunteered to go to Nam and got a bronze star (with combat V) and two purple hearts while there. I wonder if you're fit to shine John Murtha's boots.

Can you "de-Marine" someone?

Never seen it happen, Bob. I was Navy. All the "ex-marines" I've met never lost their spirit of having served in the Corps.

Same here. If you go through what those guys and gals do to join the Corps, how can you blame them?

I think Murtha has gone "daffy". To many brain cells killed in the Officer's Club maybe?

I been paying attention to Murtha since he said we should get out of Iraq. He's probably visited more people at Walter Reed (that are there because of Iraq) than anyone. I've heard him tell the stories of those visits. It's been getting to him. He knows combat and he knows what comes of it. Like the subject of this thread.. he said those Marines in Iraq lost it. He knows.

Let's let the investigation go forward and if any Marines are found guilty, justice should and will be served. Don't worry, if guilty these men will be punished severely.

Until then, Murtha should shut his big, whimpering mouth.

Any true Marine would.

Since you know what a "true Marine" is, I assume you served in the Corps? John Murtha volunteered to go to Nam and got a bronze star (with combat V) and two purple hearts while there. I wonder if you're fit to shine John Murtha's boots.

1) Murtha isn't worthy of my spit to shine his shoes.

2) I am the product of two "true Marines"; my mother, who served in WWII and my father - WWII through two tours in Vietnam.

He is highly decorated but you would never know it. And neither did I until, having had to become his Power of Attorney for reasons of his failing health, obtained his records.

My father proudly volunteered and humbly served for 30 years active duty (not 10 years active and 27 in reserves like Murtha).

The operative words in the above sentence are "humbly served". The word "humble" doesn't seem to fit the characterization of a Marine as a stand alone description, does it?

But combined with "served", you get the picture of the difference between a true Marine like my father and some finger-puppet, mouthpiece of the Dem party like a Murtha or a Kerry.

My father would NEVER publically speak out in the manner Murtha did. He had/has more dignity and respect than that.

3) I did not serve in the military, for a number of reasons. (I have always been upfront about this.) The desire was there; the health was not and my father, being much wiser than me did everything in his power to make me understand that I wouldn't cut the mustard. So, no, I did not serve.

Instead, I vowed after the Vietnam War to work tirelessly against the anti-war activists, such as Murtha and Kerry and any other people who shoot their mouths off as often as they can - in an attempts to destroy this country and the morale of the military.

It's not going to happen on my watch as long as I'm alive.

So, you must be equally impressed with the fact that Donald Rumsfeld goes and visits these soldiers on a weekly basis? Yes, he does. But, you probably aren't aware of that because the liberal rags won't cover it and Donald Rumsfeld doesn't mention it.

LMD, until Murtha saw the results of going into Iraq, he was never anti-war that I know of. He's been one of the staunchest supporters of the military since he's been in the US House. Don't go lumping him in with Kerry. That's a cheap shot and you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Glad to hear of your folks' service. You don't have to have been a "lifer" to have served your country though. Most who lost their lives in Nam weren't.

Country,
Try to let this sink into your head.

Murtha was not there during the incident in question.

Anything he has to say about it is SPECULATION.

As I stated in my original post, let justice work.

If the Marines are found guilty, they will be punished severely - not like some civilian who, say, kills an innocent woman by leaving her to drown in an overturned car iin the water off a bridge in Chappaqudick...and gets off scott-free. (And feel free to dig up any Republican who has done something similar - I would say the same thing.)

BTW, Murtha voted for the war before he voted against it. Check his voting record. Do your homework.

Murtha works on what is expedient for his political career, just like Kerry.

Murtha's medals have been called into question, just like Kerry's.

And, just like Kerry, when you run your life by touting your military career then you are fair game and subject to investigation.

Edited to add: - I never said you had to be a "lifer" to have served your country. Clearly you missed the point - AGAIN.
Murtha loves to spout off about his "37 year, highly decorated Marine career". I was comparing him to one of thousands of others who have served 30 years ACTIVE, not 10 years active and the rest reserves. And they don't mention a peep about it.

Murtha, by mouthing off, places himself in the limelight. Any publicity is good publicity. And this is exactly what this publicity-whore is looking for during an election year.

I wonder why Iraq is always brought up in the same breath as "Vietnam" by the left. Why don't they bring up "World War II" in the same breath?

I wonder how these IED devices get planted in front of a house and nobody sees them plant it? Funny how that happens.

Bob, I don't think it has anything to do with the left, or right for that matter. Iraq is becoming a quagmire, just as Vietnam became one. And in both cases those wars weren't neccessary. In WWII it was neccessary that we got in.

LMD, I guess we just see Murtha differently.. and I agree with him.

In my opinion, Iraq was very necessary.

And Iraq is far from a quagmire.

The problem in Iraq is that there are a bunch of thugs, many religious zealots who think nothing of committing suicide and homocide against anyone, women and children included, who are idolized by the Western Media as "insurgents".

In Vietnam, we were fighting a cunning state sponsored army who wanted to take over a country.

The big difference in Iraq vs. Vietnam is that the North Vietnamese weren't about to, and didn't, follow us "home". In Iraq, the daffy zealots will. They have already "come for" about 3,000 people here.

And I don't buy, for a nanosecond, that crap that the Islamists had "nothing to do" with Saddam.

Guess we'll just have to wait and see about Iraq, Bob. Sure is looking like a quagmire to me at this point.