It is fortunate that you can vote with your feet. NH is supposedly a libertarian state though you'd never know it with their vote. Hopefully there are better business climes where you are going the demographics of Maine make it somewhat hard, just ask our children
Funny, I find most people here will be grabbing something besides our ankles.
So Jim, which red state are you going to?
The nearest red state geographically is West Virginia. They are under siege by the Obama administration because they are in coal country.
From the names I've seen here, Rich Cebra and Beth O'Connor make the most sense. Both are articulate, rock-solid conservatives that would be a terrific face for the party. Another name I've heard for Vice-chairman is Traci Gauthier who brings a proven record in her county and brings northern Maine to the officer's table. Bruce Poliquin would make an excellent Finance Director. After the WOW debacle, Sorensen should have no official role, paid or unpaid with the party. I don't have to remind many of you of the deceit he was caught perpetrating at the state convention last May.
As far as whether or not the governor should have input, of course he should. It was embarrassing to see the party chairman and Gov. LePage not on the same page. As part of the state party hierarchy we should be supporting our Republican elected officials as well as Republicans seeking office. Our goals must be reelecting Gov. LePage and giving our state a legislature that will promote the reforms necessary to increase economic vitality in our state.
Should the governor have any direct input on selecting the new party chair?
There is a lot of nuts and bolts stuff the party chair has to organize, but please don't lose sight of the fact that who we name is also a PR statement. Naming a woman from southern Maine makes a statement that naming other candidates will not.
Beth O'Connor is the strongest possible public perception candidate we could put forth. And has ties to every faction of the party and the Governor. And a Big Brain.
The twits who ask "Why did she lose" are obviously the reason we lost. Obama landslide, gay marriage, heavily targeted by the Soros-lite crowd, outspent 3 to 1 - and she still almost beat 'em.
THAT is the kind of grit we need in a party chair.
I have heard that the Democratic organization went after Beth and Heather Sirocki on their BPN (did I get that right?) votes. Heather barely survived, Beth barely lost. It was risky, and principled, to stand with the governor on that issue. Some may argue that she was unwise to take that risk, but I'd not be inclined to condemn someone for standing on principle.
Big Park North? I think the governor is opposed to a big park up here.
The twits who ask "Why did she lose" are obviously the reason we lost.
This "twit" doesn't follow southern Maine politics so I was asking an honest question. Are you always this abrasive or just having an off-day?
Well I knew my ears were ringing and now I know why.
Flammenwerfer...BPA is the Biphenosol (spelling) is indeed the reason and I knew when I made that vote it was the hill I would die on. Foot soldiers and volunteers went door to door and made phone calls in the last 5 days before the election telling an ignorant populace that I voted to keep dangerous chemicals in childrens products, they then hammered my ZERO conservation record as proof that I want to destroy the earth and poison babies. Couple that with my zero voting record for the unions and I knew I was going to have a fight on my hands.
Every single vote I made, I would make again. Every single vote I made best represented the people of district 145 and in a whole the hard working citizens of the state of Maine. I am glad to say after the nastiest election this town has ever seen, that I can look in the mirror and sleep well at night. I am proud of my voting record and I am proud of the fact that I ran a clean campaign based on my accomplishments and my solutions for a more economically prosperous state.
As far as party chairman...wow...there are some pretty big shoes to fill and I am not sure that it is prudent for me to relinquish my title as Chairman for Maine Taxpayers United. I have six bills that have already been penned. I have secured excellent legislators to bring those bills forward...each and every bill will save the taxpayers of my district as well as the state money...the effect of two of those bills will downsize government entities. I want to usher those bills through the process to try and ensure they succeed. I want to ramp up my efforts as an advocate for the taxpayers of Maine, goodness knows we need one!
I am truly humbled by the kind words of support on this thread. Regardless of which ever title is attatched to my name I will never give up fighting for the taxpayer. I am not sure that I would be a good Chairman...I refuse to manipulate the truth for political gain.
Thanks to all who have faith in me and have expressed it here and other places...it healed the wounds I have been licking for the last few days. There is no time like the present to jump back in the fray!
This is good news indeed. George Washington was a reluctant candidate for president. That's the best kind to have. The people of Maine have spoken and a majority on these pages at least want Beth O'Connor to be our next party chair. You can still keep your goals for Maine and advocate for them as party chair.
Beth, what the Maine peoples alliance did to you and Lois Snowe-Mello was despicable. Lois is taking this hard, not that she lost, but that they tried to destroy her reputation and her as a person. We need to focus our efforts on them for the next couple of years. Discredit them, expose them, do what we need to do!
Ok I know nothing so someone explain it to me.
We must support the gov.. Ok, he has not seemed to take a leadership role in party,matter of fact it is questionable just what party he has lead.
Which given the present state and past history the last 7 months is a plus. He has stayed silent during cycle also.
The loss in all reality can be related to the gov. pissing off just abut every constituency along with other issues.
We are supposed to not ask the question why someone lost and support them for a leadership position w/out that answer.
We are idiots for asking.
This will lead to a march like the lemmings heading for the cliff ,the only difference is the lead lemmings will be carrying a Liberty flag and a picture of gov. as they go over!
I am not sure that I would be a good Chairman...I refuse to manipulate the truth for political gain.
On that basis, I think you'd make an excellent chairman. Hell, I might even re-register.
Bruce, I do not speak for the Governor, but, maybe he stayed out of this because he would have had a negative effect on a candidate if he openly endorsed them. The papers and groups like the Maine peoples alliance attack LePage at any chance they get. Read the comments section in any paper. There is not much love for him among the liberals and perception is reality.
"This will lead to a march like the lemmings heading for the cliff ,the only difference is the lead lemmings will be carrying a Liberty flag and a picture of gov. as they go over!"
The lemmings have already gone over the cliff...once liberty is lost it is seldom if ever regained.
The facts are that the populace have been indoctrinated through our government run school monoply that there are not consequences for our actions. They are taught to believe that don't worry big daddy government will take care of you and regardless of your work effort you are entitled to the fruits of anothers labors.
Our populace has been made weak and dependent and it is truly a sad state of affairs. It is imperative in human nature for man to work hard to achieve the best possible for himself...individual accomplishments and hard earned success builds a momentum and a drive to continue to succeed...thoses successes are passed on to all of society...the problem as we have witnessed is that man by nature is lazy and if offered an easier route he is generally inclined to take it. The injection and ever increasing nanny state has enslaved the populace and they dont even know it.
When they come to get me with my liberty flag at least I know why they have come. You will never pry her out of my heart.
Beth, what the Maine peoples alliance did to you and Lois Snowe-Mello was despicable.
therein lies the problem, also known as fighting from the rear. What they did,they do, because they know that they can get away with it, and they do it time after time with no repercussions. The GOP always wants to play nice and be bi-partisan, and get along just so people will think, ya know I'm gonna vote for so and so because you can just dump on them whenever you want and they'll do nothing about it til it's to late.(wink wink, giggle giggle,tee hee, nudge nudge) I would think that the plan would be to call them out on their assumptions in a public forum of any sort, when and if they don't show up, well, you got it all to yourself and you get to use the words "cowardly sonsabitches" on every occassion that you can fit it in. Oh well now , that's not how the GOP does it.......and don't we know it. Are you afraid of hurting someones feelings? They might call you a name? Which one haven't they called you already? The only thing they can pin on you is Radical vs Bully and we're lookng for RADICAL. Get a backbone we know what the Constitution says so it's not like anyone has to keep repeating it to us, you have to cram it down their throats and make them abide by it. Bi Partisan...what a crock........reaching across the aisle, ain't that sweet, like a Kumbya moment in time. the blind leading the blind. There is no compromise!! You can say what ya want about GPaul but at least he's got enough ass to tell it like it is to their faces and he doesn't mince words. Have to respect that in a person as far as I'm concerned, why don't any of you follow his lead?
The GOP always wants to play nice and be bi-partisan,
No more Mr. Nice guy
The Defense of Liberty people are planning on running Jones for chairman - better not oppose them! Otherwise you will be declared enemies of liberty and get harrassing phone calls. If you're lucky you might also get followed and get your picture taken.
Do you really think I give a hoot about that Apollo...the defense of liberty people know me and they know me well. I don't mix words depending on whose company I am in.
I think that Jan Staples would be the perfect choice for GOP Chair. She has worked for the good of the party for many years, and had the courage to stand up the the "Defense of Liberty" goons when they broke numerous state convention rules, despite the various harrassment and personal threats she received. She's a person of intergrity and works very hard for the party and the candidates.
I think that Jan Staples would be the perfect choice for GOP Chair.
Too early for popcorn and beer, but this ought to provoke some stimulating conversation. I'll check back when I return from church.
this is more like it
Apollo, please do not hijack this thread and make it into something it wasn't intended to be. You are welcome to go start your own thread about DOLPAC and Jan Staples, but until then, please keep it to the issue at hand. The next GOP Chair.
I intend to support Rich Cebra if he runs. I am good friends with Beth O'Connor and we have spoken, that conversation will stay between us, except that I have told her my intentions to support Rich if he runs. I have a TON of respect for Beth, having seen first hand how she was treated this past election cycle. No one should have to endure the nastiness she had to, it was absolutely brutal. The Dems specifically targeted Republican and Unenrolled women with the ads and it worked.
Time to regroup and figure out a plan to get a Republican reelected in my town, the town that I am chairman of the GOP in. If Beth runs and wins the GOP chair position, then it takes her off the table as a candidate for 145 in 2014. We need Beth in Augusta as a legislator, no doubt about it.
Rich, like Beth, has a proven track record of getting the job done. Let me remind people that he was the GOP Chairman in Cumberland County during the period we took control back of the legislature. Rich has demonstrated he is comfortable with the media, he has demonstrated he is more than capable of being a champion of great legislation, and Rich is also widely respected among Republicans in Maine. Rich is the right choice for the Maine GOP at this time.
I think Beth serves us better, at this time, as Chair of MTU and as a legislator in Augusta.
By now we should know the Democrat playbook.
They wait until a week or two before the election
and pounce with a ton of well financed false ads.
The Republican candidate kinda just sits there and takes it.
The number one job of the next chairman will be to counter this playbook.
So this means the number one job of the next chairman will be to raise money
and to react swiftly to Dem lies.
Why not start attacking the dems first for a change. Let them spend their time defending, lets be proactive rather than reactive.
Great suggestion Islander. I agree. We should spend more time attacking them and less time attacking our own.
Bob S I understand why and you are correct but that says a lot also in and by itself.
The concept of attack is a good one .It sure has worked for the Dems. .
All I want to see is a clear process done with some real thought, not just blind allegiances, to the future and with people who will be able to succeed .
Bruce, the only blind allegiances I have are for my grandchildren. To assure they retain Liberty and Freedom without a ton of debt.
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