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Naran
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We need to attack, alright,

We need to attack, alright, but not with lies and foul deception, as we've seen from the Dems in the recent election. We need to use principled truth and facts, and hammer 'em hard. Love Charlie Webster or hate him, nobody can accuse him of being shy when it came to taking off the gloves.

We need someone leading the Maine GOP with the same spine, who can successfully unite the fractured divisions resulting from the Ron Paul divide. Someone who can successfully navigate the balance between social issues and fiscal reforms, and bring both sides together. Someone who understands what fundraising requires, and the recruitment and support of good, electable candidates.

Robert Reed
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In my opinion, and not of any

In my opinion, and not of any past, present or potential employer this election was lost not only because of a welfare entitlement sopciety scared of losing the free ride, but also because that welfare class has created a huge welfare ECONOMY...reduce Mainecare and you're not just taking people off welfare, you're also taking away jobs that support welfare....and those are the people who fought tooth and nail to return to the prior times.

As to leading this party - I would chose Bruce Poliquin any day - as to Beth - I think she would better serve our state as the next GOVERNOR.

David Sorensen
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Michael Coleman said: "After

Michael Coleman said: "After the WOW debacle, Sorensen should have no official role, paid or unpaid with the party."

Mike, you are an armchair general and you have no idea what you are talking about. First, the World of Warcraft mailer worked. Martin was down in the latest internal poll before the mailer and story hit and he came up 2% in the next one fielded after, with Lachowicz's negatives up 20%. Ultimately, the mailer wasn't enough, but along with Lachowicz's much-publicized online behavior, it pushed the race in the right direction. Bottom line: you lack the data necessary to hold an informed opinion. Furthermore, the only people who complained about the mailer were professional Democrats, gamers, and expatriated Republicans looking for a reason to hit the party publicly. For anyone who knows anything about political communications, however, it was a resounding success.

Second, the mailer wasn't even researched or conceived by anyone at the party.

Third, even if it were, and even if it had a negative effect on the race, why would you blame the person who merely spoke to it, actively contacting local, national, and international news outlets to push our side of the story for a week? See Lachowicz get destroyed in this CNN interview. Clearly it's a personal vendetta against me, and that destroys what little credibility your analysis carried in the first place.

And for anyone else making comments like Mike's, here's a novel idea. Call the party and ask for an explanation if you have a problem with something. I would gladly have told all of this to those disgruntled Republicans who blasted their own party in the newspapers over a mailer in the middle of an election cycle.

Old Dame Fortune
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David Sorenson, you can try

David Sorenson, you can try all you want to justify the silliness of the WOW mailer. But even Charlie Webster admitted that it was ill advised.

But Im interested in the fact that you spent all that effort on your defensive post but failed to respond to the bigger issue Mike Coleman brought to you:

"I don't have to remind many of you of the deceit he was caught perpetrating at the state convention last May."

Before you start trying to spin this statement, please remember that weve all seen the video.

Actually, I dont really think you are going to be answering this one at all.

Everyone else: David Sorenson serves at the pleasure of the Chairman. The Chairman quit before he could be fired and Mr. Sorenson will soon be finding other employment.

Mike Lange
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The Internal Republican

The Internal Republican Witch-Hunt Begins

Less than a week after former Governor Mitt Romney lost the election and President Barack Obama secured 56% of the vote in Maine, some in the Republican Party are preparing for a witch-hunt. The historic gains made in 2010 by the Maine Republican Party have been erased as the legislative majority has fallen, with uncertainty lingering about Governor Paul LePage’s re-election in two years.

Undercover Porcupine Blog - BDN

Bruce Libby
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Oh another thing banish any

Oh another thing banish any talk about what happened and didn't happen or might have happened at the "convention" last summer !
Learn from it,the lesson was everybody got just a little foolish and nothing was accomplished that has a lasting positive affect that most can identify.
Carrying on the negatives will not accomplish what needs to be done.

Apollo
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LePage backed the out of

LePage backed the out of state "Liberty" interlopers and "Obama is better than Romney" morons. He made his bed, so he can sleep in it. We'll see if these people can get him re-elected.

Beth O'Connor
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Carrying on the negatives

Carrying on the negatives will not accomplish what needs to be done.

Bingo Bruce. There was spilt milk on both sides...no one cleaned it up and it went sour. No more crying over spilt milk. Clean it up and learn that it is prudent to clean up the milk right after it spills otherwise the stink will permiate everywhere, and it did.

I'm over that. Time to look at our assets and expand them the good old fashion, hard work and the ability to use reason and logic. No more arm chair politicians...you know how many I have seen come to meetings and then 2 people wind up with all the work while others go home and scream at their TV"s, yell at their radios. Find your elected official, obtain their voting records and call them on it...and then tell 5 friends to do the same and have them each call 5 friends. The truth is boring so it is harder to convey, but if enough people repeat it it will resonate.

Betsy Ross
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From Cebra's Facebook page

From Cebra's Facebook page this afternoon:

At 4 pm today I sent an e-mail letter to the members of the Maine Republican Party State Committee that I am seeking the office of Maine Republican Party Chairman. Your prayers and support for this next chapter in my life are really appreciated.

all the best,

Rich

Roger Ek
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I wonder how old his list is.

I wonder how old his list is. My letter is still floating in cyberspace unless I'm not on Rich's list.

Publius V. Publicola
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Old Dame Fortune and Mike

Old Dame Fortune and Mike Coleman: Get over the convention. If you don't like how politics are played, sit on the bench.

You should thank David for his job as Communications Director. I haven't seen the Maine Republican Party quoted so often on so many different issues in an election cycle in a long time. I hope the next Chair continues to use his talents to our benefit.

Pat Riot
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If you don't like how

If you don't like how politics are played, sit on the bench.

Their ample posteriors already occupy the bench. Somehow they've confused shrill irrelevance with bias for action.

I agree PVP, Sorensen did a good job. He should have been engaged in the effort sooner.

Naran
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Thank you, Publius. I agree

Thank you, Publius. I agree with you, and I think David Sorensen did a great job. Anyone who thinks they can do better, feel free to step right up, and offer your services. You'll need a really thick skin, a lot of patience, and 24/7 availability, but hey, piece of cake --- right?

Meanwhile, here's a small hint about how the Maine Democratic Party REALLY feels about trying to "work across the aisle" in future. This is what the new GOP party chairperson has to look forward to, when they start work in Augusta.

"Ben Grant - Bi-Partisanship is Meaningless"

Peter
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Cebra should not be our next

Cebra should not be our next Party chair. We need new perspectives and new leadership. Recycling elected officials keeps the good ole boy network going.

David Sorensen
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Thank you all for the kind

Thank you all for the kind words. Throughout this past election cycle, I worked closely with many Ron Paul supporters, including DOLPAC, to coordinate field and media activities. I regret my early interactions with them, but we put the past behind us and worked together to support our Republican candidates. I was impressed by their hard work, and although I left my cycle-only job as party communications director last week, I look forward to working with them and hopefully other Ron Paul supporters in the future.

Back to the point of this thread: this experience has given me confidence that whoever the next chairman is, Republicans of all stripes can and will come together under ideas that are common to everyone in the party and popular with the electorate at large, and move forward to win back the State House majorities, re-elect the Governor, defend our remaining U.S. Senate seat, and field successful candidates for the U.S. House seats.

Mid-Coast Mainer
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Webster stated that because

Webster stated that because black people registered to vote last week, there is voter fraud in Maine.

I wonder why the R's got spanked a week ago?

J. McKane
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Webster stated that because

Webster stated that because black people registered to vote last week, there is voter fraud in Maine.

Link?

Mid-Coast Mainer
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http://www.wcsh6.com/news/art

http://www.wcsh6.com/news/article/222016/2/Maine-GOP-Chair-Charlie-Webst...

If the link does not work, go to wcsh6 news and see for yourself.

Do you really think one would make this up?

Mid-Coast Mainer
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http://www.wcsh6.com/news/art

http://www.wcsh6.com/news/article/222016/2/Maine-GOP-Chair-Charlie-Webst...

If the link does not work, go to wcsh6 news and see for yourself.

Do you really think one would make this up?

Roger Ek
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Yes, especially anonymously.

Yes, especially anonymously.

J. McKane
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Do you really think one would

Do you really think one would make this up?

Out of context. He is talking about groups of black people voting in towns where everybody knows everybody and there aren't any black people. I think it is ok to discuss this. I am sure everything is on the up and up and no one in Maine would ever think of casting an illegal vote but I think one can discuss it without being called a racist.

Naran
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Mid-Coast --- don't you have

Mid-Coast --- don't you have wagers to deal with?

Thanks.

Mike Lange
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I've known Charlie Webster

I've known Charlie Webster for over 30 years. While he may come across as a hammerhead at times, he is definitely not - nor has he ever been - a racist.

Apollo
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You guys should know better!

You guys should know better! Blacks, gays, and other victim classes should never be questioned or accused of breaking the law! RACISTS!

Naran
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Haven't you guys read the

Haven't you guys read the Liberal Manifesto? Racism is just fine, as long as you're referring to Republicans as "angry old white men." Then, it's not only acceptable, but commendable.

Ugenetoo
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I'm not republican, and I

I'm not republican, and I don't consider myself old.
I am angry though.
Does that count?

Naran
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Not unless you've paid the

Not unless you've paid the appropriate tithe to the MPA, and the required obeisance to the Liberal party.

Thrasybulus
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Now that the caucus has

Now that the caucus has chosen the new legislative leaders, which do not include any women, I think it is more important than ever that we choose a woman as the face of the Maine GOP. And a woman from southern Maine would be smart - that is where we got clocked, and it was the gender gap that did us in.

Beth O'Connor for Chair - and the word is she is in the race.

Bob S
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Beth O'Connor for Chair I'll

Beth O'Connor for Chair

I'll second that!!

Mid-Coast Mainer
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Naran, The individuals that

Naran,
The individuals that lost the wagers with me ( everyone remembers, right, that the D's would sweep the Legislature, Michaud and Pingree would win and O'Bama would get re-elected??) The two loyalists have advised me that they would be submitting thier payments to AMG. Of the possible 5 scenarios. there were only two willing to put up the lousy $25.00. In the event that the payments are not forthcoming, please do let me know so that I can call them out. I am confident that these two honorable men will cover thier bets.

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