NRA Grassroots Meeting to Oppose Bear Referendum
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quote:Originally posted by MainelyMe:
Shame on the NRA.
Coming from you, that is a badge of honer.
As usual the NRA shows up to take advantage of an issue that has nothing to do with gun control. They are here as an out of state bully agent to tell us how to manage our bears. It's an excuse to hype themselves and put more money in their coffers.
quote:Originally posted by Enough:
[QB]They are here as an out of state bully agent to tell us how to manage our bears. QB]
That's a great description of HSUS, isn't it?
Unfortunately Cecil Gray fails to comprehend that the NRA has been involved with more than simply issues of gun control for quite some time.
After the war ( WW II ) , the NRA concentrated its efforts on another much-needed arena for education and training: the hunting community. In 1949, the NRA, in conjunction with the state of New York, established the first hunter education program. Hunter Education courses are now taught by state fish and game departments across the country and Canada and have helped make hunting one of the safest sports in existence. Due to increasing interest in hunting, NRA launched a new magazine in 1973, The American Hunter, dedicated solely to hunting issues year round. NRA continues its leadership role in hunting today with the Youth Hunter Education Challenge (YHEC), a program that allows youngsters to build on the skills they learned in basic hunter education courses. YHECs are now held in 43 states and three Canadian provinces, involving an estimated 40,000 young hunters.
quote:Originally posted by Enough:
They are here as an out of state bully agent to tell us how to manage our bears. It's an excuse to hype themselves and put more money in their coffers.
Hey Cecil,In case no one ever told you, I AM THE NRA. And as far as "putting money in their coffers", laying out dough to educate their current membership at a free workshop is quite the opposite. Think about it.
quote:They are here as an out of state bully agent to tell us how to manage our bears. It's an excuse to hype themselves and put more money in their coffers.
Besides the fact that Cecil Gray has now proven himself to be for gun control and against the NRA (showing his true colors) ,does anyone else find his statement Absolutely Hilarious?A question you didn't answer from the other day Cecil Gray. Why is the HSUS spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to pass "Their" anti-hunting bear campaign?The referendum They (HSUS Bully) wrote in Washington DC to tell us (Mainer's) how to manage bears in our state of Maine ,while using it as a fund raiser to line "Their" own Coffers.Hey Cecil ,when did the NRA ,SAM ,MPGA ,MTA or the DIF&W ever take money from people ,under false pretenses ,to take away hunting from Mainer's????? For that matter Cecil ,to take away any freedoms that "American's" enjoy????These organizations were created to defend our rights from Greedy ,Rich ,Pegans that are bent on making us all vegy eaters. Cecil do you have any hunters coming up this year? Are you going to tell them you are fund raising for HSUS in Maine ,so they can use that money to take other forms of hunting away from them in their states??????Cecil ,Where has trapping been taken away in states by (HSUS) after this bear referendum got passed????A quick recap of the last few months.Cecil Gray (fake hunter and guide) is for the HSUS ,Bob Fisks anti-hunting FOA and all other anti-hunting organizations in ,and out of Maine.Cecil Gray is against NRA ,SAM ,MPGA ,MTA ,MAS ,DIF&W ,and all hunting organizations in the state of Maine. And the list goes on and on!We can see your true colors ,shining through!
SAM, MPGA, MTA, IF&W, have all taken away the hunting rights of recreational hunters and guides other than themselves via the lease agreement loophold. Evidently the NRA approves. The "conservation" "coalition" has spent more to date than the entire pro side has raised.
leased sites ,leased sites ,Cecil ,we should be glad these land owners let us hunt on their ground at all.Its their ground Cecil. If I own 100 acres or 1 million I can do with it what I want.Perhaps if I owned a thousand acres and wanted to lease it out to build camps ,then gave those people in those camps the right to hunt on that ground but noone else ,that would be wrong too?How about all the landowners that own ground ,that charge rent to use their buildings for business. Are they wrong?What do people do when they rent a house from someone? They lease that area for themselves.How about if I own 200 acres and posted no hunting signs ,just so myself and some of my friends can go hunting there but noone else? A common practice in Maine I might add!Maine hunters do not have the right to hunt on someone elses land ,without permission period!Some charge for it ,but most do not.How about Quimpy. She has shut down ,what ,at least 50,000 acres of ground to hunting already. She wants to take away hunting on 3.2 million acres of ground in Maine. If you don't view her as a threat to hunting in Maine "Right Here and Now" then you are just plain stupid!This referendum answers non of these questions. All this referendum does is take away bear hunting in Maine. It doesn't address land issues. Did you ever think Cecil that maybe passing this referendum might prompt landowners to gate off "all" their land and make "everyone" pay a fee to enter it?This has nothing to do with the referendum and all your trying to do is take attention off of HSUS who wrote this question ,in another state ,without Mainer's consent.{b} The Big Bully (from out of state) as it were trying to tell Mainer's how to hunt bears! Your own words Cecil![/B]Why do you deserve to have a 22% chance to get a Deer and I only deserve a 3% chance to get a bear Cecil?Why do you think Moose hunters should get a 80% chance of getting a moose and I should only get a 3% chance of getting a bear?Every out of state and resident hunter I have taken out hunting Moose has gotten their Moose. Thats 100%! Am I also a greedy lazy Moose guide that should be put out of work as well?Every bird hunter I have taken out has gotten birds ,100%!Every rabbit hunter I have taken out ,100%!My success rate for guiding bear hunters is much lower. Maybe 50% tops.Stop lying to the public about bear hunting Cecil Gray. Something I might add you know nothing about to start with.[ 08-08-2004: Message edited by: Rickie Keim ]
Ricki: The landowner can allow anyone to hunt or not hunt on their land. They cannot charge you fees to hunt on their land. The loophole/lease scam circumvents this law due to Mr. Smith's fenagaling for the GNW and MPGA. So we have a public resource being distributed to a set amount of individuals by landowners.
quote:The "conservation" "coalition" has spent more to date than the entire pro side has raised.
Thank you again Cecil Gray for proving to all here that you have no support for your anti-hunting referendum in Maine.Proving also only Out Of State Anti-Hunting Organizations (HSUS) are willing to finace your campaign to date. :D
quote:They cannot charge you fees to hunt on their land.
Wanna bet Cecil? Come on up here and try to hunt on my land. I will charge you a fee. Then lets see if it was "illegal" for me to do so.Cecil ,Why should you get a 22% chance at harvesting a deer and I (as a Mainer) should only get a 3% chance at harvesting a bear?\How does this help "Maine Hunters" harvest bears? How does this make it Fair for the Maine Hunter?
12MRSA - Section 7104-A. Prohibition on game fees - Enacted in 1993A person may not charge any fee for access to land if the fee is contingent upon the taking of game on that land or directly related to the taking of game on the land unless the land is an authorized commercial shooting area licensed under section 7105-A. This section does not apply to the following fees:1. Gate fees. Gate fees or other access fees that are unrelated to the taking of game;2. Guiding fee. Fees charged by licensed guides or other fees that are unrelated to access to land; or3. Fees for placing bear bait. Fees that are directly related to the placing of bear bait on land.12MRSA - Section 7406, paragraph 17-A - Game feesA person is guilty of charging illegal game fees if the person charges a fee in violation of section 7104-A.
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December 3, 2003 - George Smith wrote, "This was one of the first bills I proposed after I started work as SAM's exec. director. If you'd like some background on why we proposed the bill, I'd be happy to provide it.""Regarding the game fee law, the Texans land was in the Lincoln area, 7,000 acres managed by Hank McPherson. They were charging fees based on what you were hunting. We quickly outlawed that practice."
quote:Originally posted by MainelyMe:
December 3, 2003 - George Smith wrote, "This was one of the first bills......"
Blah, blah, blah. George Smith is a bad guy, all Maine Guides are greedy, Everyone shoots a bear 47 times while its head is in a doughnut barrel, the sky is falling and summer is ending early because of a hole in the ozone caused by the Republicans firing Nukes at gay, baby, whales from skidders with pre-ban assault weapons in illegal clear-cuts that aliens made while doing research on black helicopters.Now that we have all your repetitive collective theories out in the open, I would encourage our Maine NRA members to show up and learn the truth about this referendum.
Letter to Editor - Bear hunting letter incorrect about law - by Robert E. Greely, West Gardiner - Kennebec Journal - August 08, 2004Attorney/hunter John Chapman is incorrect or misleading in several things he says in his letter of July 22.First, the existing law is a new law and would not have been applicable to the 54,119 bear bodies that were thrown in the gravel pits, woods or a landfill since 1982. There is no record of the many bear bodies that were thrown away prior to 1982.Secondly, the new law, in reality, does not prevent anyone from discarding bear bodies if the bodies are used for bait to hunt and trap.And what bear baiting guide wouldn't know enough to say that he was putting them out for coyote bait since the hunting season for coyotes is open the year around.Thirdly, the spokesperson for the Maine Professional Guides Association, Norman "Skip" Trask, has recently stated to the IF&W Committee that Maine should have a wanton waste law such as exists in Alaska and other states to prevent this kind of waste. Trask is a retired game warden and knows what the long-standing disposal practices of bear bodies has been by the bear baiting guides.The new law says: "A person may not drop, deposit, discard, dump or otherwise dispose of a carcass, waste parts or remains of a wild animal, except waste parts or remains resulting from the normal field dressing of lawfully harvested wild game or the lawful use of waste parts or remains of wild game as bait."Robert E. Greely, West Gardiner
Isn't it interesting how the number of supposedly discarded bears equals 100% of the kill since 1982 in Randall's above post.If nonresidents were to account for 80% of bears taken since 1982, that would still leave over 10,800 of the supposed 54,000+ bears being disposed of as coming from resident hunters.Wasn't it Randall himself who claimed not too long ago something like " resident hunters " we taught to eat what they kill ? ----------The following conflict exists here ladies and gentlemen.1)If the disposal numbers in Randall's above post are accurate, then it means that Maine resident bear hunters should be classified in the same catagory as the nonresident trophy hunters that he has chosen to malign, as it pertains to disposal of bears.or2)If resident bear hunters do not waste the bears as it pertains to the meat, then the number of disposed animals stated must be excessively inaccurate.It can't be both.----------Note: For simplicity purposes I have removed consideration that likely there have been nonresident hunters who have chosen to make use of bear meat from successful hunts aside from using such for baiting purposes.
Cecil:Apparently, you cannot comprehend the wisdom of a public entity giving a private entity an incentive to do something. The stats are impresive. Bear hunting is a 6 million / yr. industry, bears maintained atthe top of carrying capacity without needing to blow public $$ on hunters, all because of what you decry. Look, if baiting creates the "mess" that Randall claims, landowners wouldn't allow it without appropriate compensation. If it does NOT, than Randall is a liar when he says that it does.I hope that even more laws are passed permitting landowners to keep your kind of digruntled antihunters off their land!! Great idea!! :) :)
SAM still in grip of controversy - by Roberta Scruggs - Portland Press Herald - December 3, 1995Like every family feud, this one is almost incomprehensible to outsiders. People may say they’re arguing over grandma’s china or dad’s will, but the feelings run deeper than the explanations.I had hoped - futilely, as it turned out - that by now there would be truce in the civil war that erupted among board members of the Sportsman’s Alliance of Maine in September.As SAM hosts a conference on major issues Friday (see page 11D), the turmoil is swirling still.In case you’ve forgotten, 11 of SAM’s 20 board members tried to force executive director George Smith to resign, but ended up resigning themselves.They had raised questions about Smith’s management and also were concerned about his outside jobs as a political consultant.The public brawl revealed serious personality conflicts and deep disagreements on policy. It surfaced on the eve of what might have been SAM’s finest hour - the celebration of the organization’s 20th anniversary.As I went through my now-dated list of SAM board members Friday, it looked like a family dinner table with more than half the chairs empty.Gone are Ed Tobias - so integral a part of SAM that the Augusta office was named for him - Catherine Damren, Butch DeSanctis, Michel Lee, Craig Richardson, Ralph Sarty, Bradford Smith, Herbert Smith, Bud Solari, Phil Spaulding and Jeff Zimba.John Chapman, a Portland attorney, recently resigned, citing a heavy case load.SAM board members who remain are Edye Cronk, president; Jim Hilly, first vice president; Robert Cram, second vice president; Russell E. Dyer, treasurer; Herbert Morse, secretary/clerk; Terry Estes; John Butts and Roy Hoskins. As past president, Jim Gorman also is on the board.The board members who resigned say their attempt to reform SAM is far from over. They can’t talk about specifics, Solari said, but will be making a major announcement very soon."I can assure you that the dust is not settling," Solari said. "We are determined to get this out. We’re going to make the man (Smith) stand up and account for some allegations."Cronk, however, said life at SAM goes on.The board has looked at the resigned members allegations, answered all questions "to our satisfaction," and started the process of replacing resigned members.The results of a full audit, instigated at Smith’s insistence, is expected to be available in January.Smith doesn’t deny, though, that there have been serious effects on SAM.After an all-time high in September, SAM’s membership renewal rate fell sharply in October and November.He hopes a surge in renewals when the deer hunting season ended will continue. A letter seeking new members also will soon go out to 87,000 households.The decline in renewals also triggered a cash crunch."We’ve taken in more money than we’ve paid out," Smith said, "but that’s because I’ve really been ratcheting down on expenses."As for SAM’s political clout, Smith describes the attitude of legislators as a "kind of bemused, what-the-hell-was-that-all-about smile. They see I’m still standing, so they deal with me." He believes SAM is so strong it remains a force "regardless of our own disarray."The turmoil "had an impact but it was not a crushing blow," Smith said. "We’re doing OK."You can bet, though, that the SAM family won’t be celebrating the holidays with any great cheer.Robert Scruggs is outdoors writer for The Portland Newspapers.
quote:Originally posted by Enough:
As usual the NRA shows up to take advantage of an issue that has nothing to do with gun control. They are here as an out of state bully agent to tell us how to manage our bears. It's an excuse to hype themselves and put more money in their coffers.
Let me see if I understand the argument. The hunters out of state bully is meaner than the tree huggers out of state bullies? :eek:
quote:Originally posted by MainelyMe:
SAM still in grip of controversy - by Roberta Scruggs - Portland Press Herald - December 3, 1995
1995 YAWN. You just can't get over your George Smith Hate Club membership. Your sightings of old news are getting as old as your admitted violations Mr. Randall. Time to look for some "new material."
When does the light come on that makes you understand what SAM was and what it has become?Signed: Tom Bodett of Motel Six."We'll leave the light on for yuh."
quote:Originally posted by MainelyMe:
Letter to Editor - Bear hunting letter incorrect about law - by Robert E. Greely, West Gardiner - Kennebec Journal - August 08, 2004
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Robert E. Greely, West Gardiner
Deja vu all over again.. isn't this the same letter that Bill posted 07-22-2004 11:33 PM in the "Close encounters of the black bear kind" thread (on Page 27)? His post there and his subsequent posts seem to indicate that it was his letter..
Only this time it is attributed to Mr Greely... hmm.I hope Bill can keep track of all the copying and pasting that he has going on, and all the names on which letters he is sending out.. without the search tools here on AMG it would be pretty confusing.
Cecil:Your antihunting referendum was conceived, financed and planned in Washington DC. The opposition was conceived collectively, here in Maine, and most notably in Augusta.I am not surprised that you are unfamiliar (or that you pretend to be so) with the NRA's extensive involvement in hunting, and hunting issues. One of their three main publications is devoted to hunting. The Whittington Center is primarily devoted to hunting.Given my obvious opposition to Wayne Pacelle's latest gob of spit, I have little difficulty with the NRA weighing in on the issue a year after it has surfaced. We may well have more NRA members here in the state than HSUS does. SAM advertises that it is an NRA affillite; MFOA conceals their extensive animal rights connections, and status as affilliate of FOA and HSUS. We say what we are. You, and your pals, lie. Constantly. Reflexively. You do so as part and parcel of the policy developed at AR 2000, that I posted here. Unlike you animal rights types, we do NOT hide our affilliations. We do not say brain - dead things like "The NRA doesn't vote", in an attempt to persuade the animal rights crowd that we are not a real threat to their efforts.In short, we will be at least as much in your face as you in ours, but we won't lie so much. Also, we won't have CRIMINALS as our spokespeople.-- Tip of the hat to homicidal, assaultive, pathologically incredible Bill Randall.[ 08-10-2004: Message edited by: thejohnchapman ][ 08-10-2004: Message edited by: thejohnchapman ]
August 8, 2004Larry Ferrell
22 Loon Drive,
Newport, ME 04953North American Hunter
Box 3401
Minnetonka, MN 55343-2101Members Sound Off:My August issue of the North American Hunter had an editorial concerning the upcoming Bear Baiting referendum in my home state of Maine. As a North American Hunter member, I am responding back to you that you have picked the wrong side in this issue. The North American Hunter association is supposed to be on the side of the little guy, the hunter. This referendum is actually the Maine hunter against the Bear Baiting industry in Maine who have totally taken over the Maine woods utilizing the Maine bear resource for their own profit.I know that the Sportsman Alliance of Maine (SAM) and other Maine Sporting groups have told you that this referendum is being instigated by the Humane Society of the United States. That is not true. This referendum was started by and is being run by a group of Maine Hunters and Maine Guides. We requested and have received support of the Humane Society of the United States Maine after we were shut out of the Maine legislative process by a handful of legislators and special interest groups like SAM. It was 500 Mainers that gathered a record number of signatures, there are only Maine people working in the campaign office, and it is over 2,000 main stream Maine citizens including many hunters working to pass the bear referendum.
Although bear baiting hunting in Maine only started some 20 years ago, it has become big business in Maine, bringing in tens of millions of dollars to bear hunting guides, hunting lodges, bear taxidermists, and the large timber producing companies that own almost all of Maine. But that business is on the backs of Maine hunters. By paying the land owners huge fees for thousands of bear bait hunting sites, Maine Guides have been able to acquire sole access to most of the Maine woods, locking out any Maine resident or out-of-state hunter who wants to hunt on his own. A review of the various Guide bear hunting advertisements with them bragging of how many acres they have sole access to will verify this fact. Even the great Maine North Woods area of 3.5 million acres is saturated with bear baiting sites, leased out to one Maine Guide or another. If you want to hunt bears during the bear baiting or hounding season, you must either have your own property where bears are found or pay a Maine Guide a fee of $1200.00/$1500.00 to hunt on his leased site. The bear baiting Guides put out bait for 30 days (all of August) before bear hunting season starts about the 1st of September. Most of the bears that are shot for the season are shot in the first weeks of the baiting season and 90% of bears killed for the year by the end of September. After the September baiting and hounding, the remaining huntable bears (not sows with cubs, obviously) have almost all been shot or have become either nocturnal, pushed out of the area, or have become too wary to hunt. This makes it almost impossible for the Maine resident hunter to successfully hunt bears for the rest of the bear season.Stand back and look at the statistics, they speak for themselves. (Ref.: Maine IF&W Bear hunting Research & Management Report 2003). Year 2002 statistics: 3,512 total bears shot for the season: of that:
2,683 bears shot in September over bait
375 bears shot with dogs (Late September)
2,487 bears shot with assistance w/ guide
2,642 bears shot by out of state hunters
870 bears shot by Maine hunters
264 bears shot rest of season (October & November)
The reason I am for stopping the bear baiting/hounding hunting is so that I, and other Maine sportsmen, can go bear hunting with some reasonable expectations of success without having to pay a Guide a fee of $1200.00 to $1500.00 for the right to hunt bears. I want to hunt the woods during the hunting season in October and November and actually still find bears. Passing this referendum to stop bear hunting with bait/hounds and trapping will not take anything away from Maine hunters. It will give them back bear hunting with reasonable expectations of success because the guides will not be able to selfishly use the Maine bear population for their own profit.
Larry Ferrell
Maine Hunter
Member of Maine Hunters for Fair Bear Hunting
quote: I know that the Sportsman Alliance of Maine (SAM) and other Maine Sporting groups have told you that this referendum is being instigated by the Humane Society of the United States. That is not true. This referendum was started by and is being run by a group of Maine Hunters and Maine Guides.
Larry Ferrell is a liar:
quote: [="#3333FF"][url=http://outdoors.mainetoday.com/hunting/030424bearhunt.shtml">What's fair when hunting bear?Thursday, April 24, 2003 [="#CC0000"]
The Humane Society and Maine Friends of Animals are laying the groundwork for a statewide referendum drive to change the way bears are hunted in Maine.
Representative of the groups held public meetings this week in Bangor and Falmouth for a referendum in November 2004 to ban bear baiting, hunting bear with dogs and the use of bear traps in Maine. They have formed a political action committee called Maine Citizens for Fair Bear Hunting. The coalition must collect 51,000 signatures by early next year to get its referendum on the 2004 ballot.
Hunters for Fair Bear Hunting wasn't even in existence then. They didn't become an entity until 2-13-2004, after they'd already done a fundraising letter for H$U$ and Maine Friends of Animals:
quote: V. FORM OF ORGANIZATION
A. Name the structure of organization; i.e. cooperative, voluntary association, partnership, etc.: Voluntary Association B. Date of origin/incorporation: 02/13/2004
[ 08-10-2004: Message edited by: Butch Moore ]
Butch:Does Mr. Ferrell have any source of information other than the criminal liar Bill Randall? I posted this link:http://www.portlandphoenix.com/features/top/ts_multi/documents/03774096.asp-- here months ago, and you informed the folks on Village Soup. The Portland Phoenix, via one Lance Tapley, let EVERYBODY know that the entire referendum was conceived in Washington DC by Wayne Pacelle, and that he did the spade work for it as early as John B's gubernatorial campaign. Pacelle may use liars, knowingly or not, but I have not seen anybody attack his facts on this issue.Ferrell can now be discounted as a reliable information source. He apparently will say whatever Randall winds him up to say.
Would Mainely Me STOP posting stupid editorials, please? No one cares about all that crap! The lies have been told and they have all been exposed. The subject of this posting is that the NRA is hosting a free informational workshop on the referendum. It has nothing to do with SAM or MPGA or George Smith, or anything else. If anyone is interested in attending, please attend. It should be quite an informative day.
Letter to Editor - “Smith is a Shameless Grovelerâ€After I finished reading the (8/03) Editorial, “Bear vote backers try to squelch scientists†by SAM’s George Smith, the very first word that came to mind was, “Unbelievable.â€
As a current and founding member of SAM, I have been around the director since the formation of the organization in 1975. No one, and I mean no one, has been less supportive of the Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife. He has been the thorn under their saddle from day one.
He has never supported funding in the form of license fee increases. He has used his influence as a lobbyist to accomplish this, always claiming that sportsmen can’t afford it.
Since the early 90’s, he has used his influence to ensure that people who are not hunters, fishermen and trappers have no say in fish and wildlife decisions by opposing general funding of IF&W.
He was the leading advocate for the existing Constitutional Amendment, the only department in the government that is funded under the dictates of an amendment, that ensures funding is at least equal to the revenues derived from sportsmen licenses.
In a perverted sort of way, Smith reminds me of Will Rogers. With the exception of a single deer biologist, Smith never met a biologist he did like. He has been especially critical of the State fisheries biologists and just recently caused them to come under a critical review. More recently, he has done the same thing to the wildlife division.
Oddly enough, this is the first time I can recall that Smith has been on the same page with the IF&W biologists who he now chooses to call scientists.
One has to know Smith to understand why in one year, our IF&W biologists have risen from a lowly position in Smith’s basement to a Godly pedestal on the roof of his house.
Perhaps Smith explains it best in his recent Kennebec Journal Native Conservative column when he revealed what was published in another newspaper.
I should know because it was I who was interviewed by the Camden editor who asked me, “What do you think of George Smith?â€
My spontaneous honesty rose to the occasion when I answered, “Smith is a Shameless Groveler.â€
And I hope I have proven it in this letter.
So what?
Bill:Why don't you tell us who authored the letter you posted above, and link us to it?
quote:Originally posted by MainelyMe:
Letter to Editor - “Smith is a Shameless Grovelerâ€
Let me take a wild guess..... "By Bill Randall :eek:
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Your NRA-ILA Is Coming To Town!Dear Maine NRA Member:In opposition to anti-hunting extremists seeking to ban bear baiting and trapping by placing a ballot initiative question on the November 2, 2004, ballot, NRA-ILA is hosting a FREE Grassroots-Election Workshop in Augusta on August 28, 2004 (details below). The Workshop & related materials, including food & drink, are FREE! At the Workshop, you will hear from the only pro-freedom U.S. Representative in the Pine Tree State, U.S. Rep. Michael Michaud (D), as he discusses the effects of this referendum in your state. You will also hear from organizations in Maine that are working to protect your sporting and outdoors traditions, NRA-ILA representatives, and NRA-ILA Election Volunteer Coordinators (EVCs) on what you can do locally to ensure this initiative is defeated on Election Day. This will be a working session! Not only will you undertake tasks at the Workshop itself, but after the event, you will actively assist with volunteer activities as well. Saturday, August 28, 20049:00 a.m. - Noon withRegistration/Breakfast from 8:00 a.m. - 9:00 a.m.Holiday Inn Augusta-Civic Center110 Community DriveAugusta, ME 04330207-622-4751To reserve your seat by phone or for more information, please call NRA-ILA at (800) 392-8683.We hope to see you in Augusta on August 28!NRA-ILA Grassroots Division----------------------------------This is the same weekend as the Augusta Gun Show so we can make this a dual purpose road trip! I hope to see many of you there. Please pass the word on this. We need to educate all the people we can as November is fast approaching.