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Bob Stone
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[url=http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/07/obama_ignorance_watc... Cum Laude from Columbia???[/url]

This guy is giving Dan Quayle a run for his money.

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Bob - I think conservatives run the risk of getting trapped in the Court of Public Opinion by the "Boy Who Cried Wolf" syndrome on some of these quickdraw reactions to Obama. I heard the audio on this Obama speech. Was he, perhaps, confusing Pearl Harbor with Hiroshima/Nagasaki? Or did he get snagged by a typo ("bomb" instead of "bombs") in his speech text? We don't really know, do we?

I feel the same way about Obama's "57 state" comment. Did he really not know how many states there are? Or was he talking about the [i]total[/i] states he'd visited campaigning, i.e. Michigan [i]twice[/i], Pennsylvania [i]twice[/i], etc?

Feasible?

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Editor, you raise good points, but don't forget his comment regarding the need for "more Arab interpreters in Afghanistan".
Not much Arabic spoken in Afghanistan. He's already outpaced Dan Quayle, IMO. :roll:

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Editor, the 57 state thing was a tiredness gaff. A true misspeaking due to a long day on the campaign trail. The clip of it has a use in politics, not as a serious bone to chew on but as part of a funny bone that makes you feel good about not voting him.

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Honestly, does a single person here actually believe Obama didn't know the details of the Dec 7th 41 Pearl Harbor attack, or that there aren't 57 states? Could he simply have not enunciated the 's' on the teleprompter?

All the while, many jumping on this man's few gaffes support the greatest butcher of the English language to ever live at 1600 Pennsylvania Lane. I'm thinking the ObamaGaffe vs BushGaffe ratio is around 10,000/1. Pathetically hypocritical. Even comparing him to Quayle is laughable.

The list of completely valid complaints regarding this presidential candidate is long and chilling. Lame things like this just cheapen the real issues. Good for the funny bone, but please don't attempt to frame this as a bona fide concern.

Tom C
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I think there is more than that.

I think Obama is an intellectually isolated South Chicago leftie whose sense of American History is: "God D@mn America."

Look, I know lefties. I grew up with them. I listen to them all the time - bashing America, hating the troops and having no sense of the US place in the world other than the fact slavery was legal at one point and we killed a lot of Indians.

WWII, the American Revolution, and even basic facts about American History have been conveniently forgotten in place of the socialist "Blame America First" kool-aid.

These people, and these beliefs aren't caricatures, and I didn't just make them up out of my fertile imagination.

They are real, and Obama comes from that crowd.

The lefties have learned to keep their contempt under wraps when speaking in public. But Obama made clear his embracing that contemptuous point of view when he was talking to his leftie pals in San Francisco - and it remains just below the surface.

He's not "proud" of America. He has nothing - no knowledge or information to base pride on. He is ignorant when it comes to a large part of America's history. And he knows nothing about a large portion of the American people. He thinks the "Average American" is a South Chicago community organizer.

You've been watching this guy for months now, and we have a pretty good idea of his history - his voting record, his radical friends, and his far-left causes.

The only "mistakes" we are seeing him make is when he says what he actually thinks.

But everyone wants to give him the benefit of the doubt all day long.

But how much common sense does it take to say: " This IS what this guy is about!"

Frostman
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Tom,

You're [i]REALLY[/i] trying to tell me he thought there was only one bomb dropped that day? No way Man. No chance in hell...

Let's say Obama and everyone on AMG took tests regarding the historical facts of the Dec 7th, 1941 Pearl Harbor attack. I'm a gambling man. I'd give you 5-1 odds Obama would be in the top 20%

Again, lame things like this cheapen the real issues of his socialistic approaches. He's wrong on many issues, but he's more educated than you're trying to put across.

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The point is that Obama has no educated substance but the substance he projects well from a teleprompter. When left to his own demise, he has to rely on his own upbringing which is apparent that it was couched in left-wing propaganda and less so in actual history. He wants to become a part of history without knowing history. It has and always will be about what puts forward the agenda to move him forward, not actual progress -- even in the moderate democrat sense, which is what moderates are starting to find out. I'd like to say he's an eloquent empty suit that can simply dance and play basketball, but it seems he's a deep-down socialist who will obfuscate matters whenever possible to move forward.

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The larger point for conservatives is: be honest and make your shots count. Blowing incidents out of proportion may actually help Obama with the general populace.

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Frostman:
I know a horde of intelligent people who have been educated and graduated with high marks who couldn't tell me when WW2 was, who was fighting in the Civil War, when the Revolution was, and when the first Moon landing happened.
I kid you not. The younger the person tends to be, the more obvious this is. I run into people my age (I'm 50) and younger who have little or no sense of much of anything in American history, to a shocking degree.
I once had a conversation with my father-in-law, and he and I started talking about what we'd learned in school.
I discovered to my shock that he had been taught things in elementary and junior high that I had no heard of until I went to college, and then from a highly slanted point of view. If I hadn't developed the taste for reading military history, for example, I probably would have bought the common view (common among my collee teachers, at least) that America was largely to blame for the Pacific side of WW2, because we were so racist. I never would have discovered from most of my high school or college textbooks about just how racist the Japanese were at the time, or that they had a militerist government bent on creating a Japanese empire.
From my own experience in higher education (so called) I can easily believe that Obama could be highly ignorant (not stupid--ignorant) about elementary facts of American history.

Frostman
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Vik,

I too know people akin to your descriptions. Of course, they're out there.

The question is: Is Obama one of these people? Did he [i]REALLY[/i] know so little of Pearl Harbor (being a Hawaii native) that he thought the Japanese dropped only a single bomb? I'd give a 0.0000001 % chance of that.

This is a %99 invented issue to what most probably was poor enunciation. As a Bush follower, I'd have expected you'd been desensitized to enunciation gaffes ;)

Like Sir Scott says. Make the shots count.

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Most of what I post about Barack Obama is tongue in cheek. I think his whole run is a farce. I think his opponent is a joke as well.

America's best years are behind us.

The lemonade is great out here on the deck this afternoon.

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I take from this thread one thing and it's something that I already knew or at least expect from the radical types like Hussein Obama.
His dopey gaffs are the part that we can see into the mind set of the radical, hate White America and the White American establishment mindset.
Real history and facts don't matter to racist, socialist, BLT types.
What is important in American history is the Struggle of People of Color and everything, EVERYTHING stems from that.
The American Revolution was about the money behind the African Slave trade.
The Civil War was all about Slavery.
The Great Depression was God getting back at capitalist White pigs making fortunes of the backs of people of color.
WW2 was about the White industrial war complex.
The 60's were all about Civil Rights and black liberation.
and lets remember the 80's when the liberals, and the BLT type were a big part of this, fighting against EVERY THING President Reagan was doing to win the Cold War.
I really wonder if someone asked B.H.O. who his heros are if he would tell the truth, Che, Fidel,Elijah Mohamed and Karl Marx or if he'd have some marketing campaign team developed answer about FDR, JFK and MLK and the CHANGE they represented.

THE CANDIDATE HAS NO CLOTHES!!!!

oh yea, did you read about B.H.O.'s "GLOBAL POVERTY ACT" plan to give 845 Billion Dollars to Africa to help the poor. And where's the money gonna come from?
The way to raise that funding is through a tax on carbon-emitting fossil fuels.
Maybe we should stop giving Africa fish and if we're going to actually throw money away in Africa we could teach them how to fish. (metaphorically speaking that is)
But Obama already knows that because he's such a good Christian.

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[quote="Frostman"]Honestly, does a single person here actually believe Obama didn't know the details of the Dec 7th 41 Pearl Harbor attack, or that there aren't 57 states? Could he simply have not enunciated the 's' on the teleprompter?

[/quote]

His exact words are:

[quote]Throughout our history, America's confronted constantly evolving danger, from the oppression of an empire, to the lawlessness of the frontier, from the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor, to the threat of nuclear annihilation. Americans have adapted to the threats posed by an ever-changing world.[/quote]

I cannot imagine a way to move those words around so that they mean anything less than what he said.

I cannot recall anyone ever using the passive voice to describe the bombing of Pearl Harbor. Why would he do that?

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I went and read the transcript from his speech. Here's a tidbit...

"Instead of adjusting to the stateless threats of the 21st century, we invaded and occupied a state that had no collaborative relationship with al Qaeda. Instead of taking aggressive steps to secure the world's most dangerous weapons and technology, we've spent almost $1 trillion to occupy a country in the heart of the Middle East that no longer has any weapons of mass destruction. "

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"...that [i]no longer[/i] has weapons of mass destruction."

Sure sounds to me like an admission that there were weapons of mass destruction.

skf

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When McCain makes a gaff it leads the news.

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frostman,

You said..."ObamaGaffe vs BushGaffe ratio is around 10,000/1".

If I read that carefully arent you saying Obama's gaffes outnumber Bush's by 10,000 to 1?

Freudian slip or frostman gaffe?....

Roger Ek
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Bob Stone observes:
"Most of what I post about Barack Obama is tongue in cheek. I think his whole run is a farce. I think his opponent is a joke as well. "

As you consider your options this fall, just remember that Democrat crossover voting picked our nominee and we returned the favor by crossover voting and we picked Barak Hussein Obama to represent the Democrats.

Tom C
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I've heard Bush speak, in person he is an engaging and personable speaker, and doesn't make a lot of mistakes. . The media makes an extra effort to find those times when he does make a mistake, and broadcasts it far and wide. It's a deliberate effort to make him look bad - while they tend to cover up gaffes by their favorite liberals.

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Cogent advice from editor

Be sure to distinguish between the human gaffes we are all capable of (being human makes that so) and true deficiencies of historical knowledge and perspective.

Tom C said it well. Gaffes are gaffes but what Obama has uttered in the past several months and years is definitely evidence that should send up red flags everywhere.

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SOS,

Good pick up. Read the transcript before the rest of the entries and noticed that same, but you win the race to the posting....glad skf caught it as well...we'll probably hear on that line for awhile, or at least we should.

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[quote="Dan Billings"]When McCain makes a gaff it leads the news.[/quote]

This is what is most interesting to me.

When Dan Quayle adds an "e" to "potato", it's national news and evidence not only of Quayle's "imbecility", but his ultimate unfitness for political office.

But when B.O. visits "57" states, stops the oceans from rising, or cannot tell Pearl Harbor from Hiroshima, they're just "gaffes", according to the "mainstream" media.

Obama has been endorsed by Hamas, Kim il Jong, and the mainstream American media. We should all be very, very afraid.

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To be clear, since some seem to unable to read entire posts before the knee jerks, I'm no Obama follower. He'll not be getting my vote in Nov (nor will McCain). I simply prefer intellectual honesty over invented non-stories. The more I read this thread, the more it reminds me of Bush Derangement Syndrome suffers found over at the DumbassUnderground, and that scares the hell out of me. And it should scare the hell outa most of you too…

This thread is one great example how desperate the 'R's are, that they would grasp onto something as lame as dropping an 's', framing it as true ignorance, and even attempt to run with this proverbial football. Blind followers of a man that utterly butchers the English language trying to crucify a man for dropping an 's' from his pronunciation. Truly, the comic relief I needed today…

[quote="Michelle Anderson"][quote="Frostman"]Honestly, does a single person here actually believe Obama didn't know the details of the Dec 7th 41 Pearl Harbor attack, or that there aren't 57 states? Could he simply have not enunciated the 's' on the teleprompter?

[/quote]

His exact words are:

[quote]Throughout our history, America's confronted constantly evolving danger, from the oppression of an empire, to the lawlessness of the frontier, from the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor, to the threat of nuclear annihilation. Americans have adapted to the threats posed by an ever-changing world.[/quote]

I cannot imagine a way to move those words around so that they mean anything less than what he said.[/quote]

When quoting someone, it normally means you've at least read what that person wrote. I have a hard time believing you actually read the post and crafted this response extrapolating that I'm suggesting one needs to "move those words around so that they mean anything less than what he said". It's an enunciation gaffe, meaning a mispronunciation of an 's', not a need to "move words around". Truly baffling.

Here's what the teleprompter said:
[i]Throughout our history, America's confronted constantly evolving danger, from the oppression of an empire, to the lawlessness of the frontier, from the bombs that fell on Pearl Harbor, to the threat of nuclear annihilation. Americans have adapted to the threats posed by an ever-changing world.[/i]

Here's what Obama said:
[i]Throughout our history, America's confronted constantly evolving danger, from the oppression of an empire, to the lawlessness of the frontier, from the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor, to the threat of nuclear annihilation. Americans have adapted to the threats posed by an ever-changing world.[/i]

Find the difference? Did I need to "move those words around"? Did I even suggest one need "move those words around"?

[quote="...---..."]I take from this thread one thing and it's something that I already knew or at least expect from the radical types like Hussein Obama.
His dopey gaffs are the part that we can see into the mind set of the radical, hate White America and the White American establishment mindset.
Real history and facts don't matter to racist, socialist, BLT types.
What is important in American history is the Struggle of People of Color and everything, EVERYTHING stems from that.
The American Revolution was about the money behind the African Slave trade.
The Civil War was all about Slavery.
The Great Depression was God getting back at capitalist White pigs making fortunes of the backs of people of color.
WW2 was about the White industrial war complex.
The 60's were all about Civil Rights and black liberation…….[/quote]
You know one's lost it when mispronouncing an 's' at the end of a word leads others to directly conclude the above idiocy from it. Again, truly baffling, and reminiscent of BDS suffers over at the DumbassUnderground.

[quote="Ike"]frostman,

You said..."ObamaGaffe vs BushGaffe ratio is around 10,000/1".

If I read that carefully arent you saying Obama's gaffes outnumber Bush's by 10,000 to 1?

Freudian slip or frostman gaffe?....[/quote]

Frostman gaffe. Whoops ;)

But surely that means I'm a dopey radical that hates whites and the white establishment, and "real" history doesn't mean anything to me, I blame whitey for everything, and .

Ike gets it right, so I'll reiterate for clarity:
[quote="Ike"]Cogent advice from editor

Be sure to distinguish between the human gaffes we are all capable of (being human makes that so) and true deficiencies of historical knowledge and perspective. [/quote]
Good advice.

Pathetic, lame, Obama Derangement Syndrome suffers. I agree with Editor. These misplaced "crying wolf" incidents can/will detract from the many truly disturbing socialist beliefs that AMG should be exposing. Real issues. Not invented issues such as this nonsense. Disappointing really.

If this guy gets elected, the R's have nobody to blame but themselves.

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Fishing in Africa

[quote="...---..."]...Maybe we should stop giving Africa fish and if we're going to actually throw money away in Africa we could teach them how to fish...[/quote]
If you give a man a fish:
You will feed him for a day.

If you teach a man how to fish:
He will spend the rest of his life on a boat, drinking beer.

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[quote]When McCain makes a gaff it leads the news.[/quote]

That's the issue. The McCain is old and almost senile tact will be continually counter jabbed with every misstatement uttered by Obama.

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Oh, come on people...
We all know that the Japenese dropping bomb(s) was just a [url=http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/gaffe]gaffe[/url]...
That America as a whole - all 57 states - is just a gaffe. Just one big "social blunder".

Note to Frostman...
Some guy once told me that he was duped by his recruiter at the "tender age of 23".
Do you suppose the recruiter made a gaffe? Or the "gaffee" for believing the recruiter?

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Typical thoughtless response I've come to expect LMD. Disappointing, as always. But to answer your question: both

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Happy to disappoint you, Gaffeman. :wink:

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This does illustrate that Obama is lost without his teleprompter.

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[quote="Dan Billings"]This does illustrate that Obama is lost without his teleprompter.[/quote]
Indeed, I believe it does. Which ironically would be the most damning accuracy this lame thread has managed to produce...

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