Palin and 2012

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Henry Clay
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I saw Gov Palin on Fox News over the weekend. I supported her as McCain's VP running mate in 2008 and did a lot of work to help her. I have no problem with her speaking at the Tea Party convention and do not object to her receiving money for herself at any speaking event. The market will bear what the market will bear. Bill Clinton and George Bush make very good money on the speaker's circuit. Good for them. Chris Wallace made a good point when he pointed out to her that Reagan did not leave the governorship during his final term in California and I found her response to that question weak. I was also curious about her comment that all of the money she raised in Tennessee will go to help the cause. The Tea Party is setting up a PAC. Will she be giving money to that PAC to support candidates of their choosing or her own PAC or to the RNC or to individual state GOP committees. I plan to watch where she gives her support.

From Politico:

NASHVILLE – This weekend’s Tea Party convention did little to unite or advance the fractious populist movement, but it did mark the debut of Sarah Palin as the movement’s spokeswoman, if not leader, and perhaps the beginning of a new phase in her political career.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/32651.html#ixzz0exBdsi16

Domino
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No, she is going to remain at Fox to further her acting career. Perhaps she can sing too?

Islander
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And you accomplishments Domino? Or do you consider yourself one of the average people unfit to run govt. Unlike Hilary she didn't get into office because of who her husband is. And unlike the current President she didn't get into office by the color of her skin. And we certainly know more about Sarah Palin than we will ever know about Obama. But we do appreciate the progressives setting the bar for President so low.

Domino
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I am about as average as a person can get. :D And we also know more about Palin than we did Bush Jr. She's a celebrity! :D

Islander
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Glad to see you agree that Palin is more vetted and better qualified to be President than the current one. Watching Fox is paying off. lol

Bob MacGregor
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Wow. Islander, would you stand up in public (or right here), and announce your real name, then say President Obama was elected because of the color of his skin? What a totally ridiculous statement.

(Pssssst Hilary Clinton served in her elected position MUCH longer than Sarah "Part Time" Palin)

Domino
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If I could only read palms.....

Gerald Weinand
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Domino:

There have been many funny tweets about this. My two favorite so far are:

Radlein: Christ almighty. What Republican needs a CRIB SHEET to remember "Tax Cuts"?

KagroX: Imagine inauguration if Palin elected? Place your left hand on the bible, raise your right hand and repeat after me. "Uh.. can I not do that?"

Mike G
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Dear Corpse men

It appears the political spotlight is taking a toll on Sarah, for her own sake, she should pocket what she can from the political talk circuit, trade it for gold and then fade back to Alaska.

Snowalker
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you can tell by this thread that she really threatens a lot of people. I hope she runs, I hope she wins and I hope all liberals follow John Murthas lead......

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Gov. Palin aside, this thread shows the Left doing one of the few tasks at which it excels: sneering.

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Vic Berardelli
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I haven't seen any tinfoil hats/Art Bell followers posting yet that the 2012 election result really doesn't matter because the Mayan calendar says the world ends just a few weeks later. :)

Roger Ek
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Henry Clay wonders:

"Will she be giving money to that PAC to support candidates of their choosing or her own PAC or to the RNC or to individual state GOP committees."

He made a funny. No money will go to the GOP. All of it will go to the grass roots and worthy candidates.

wv_republican
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Palin using a small crib sheet to address a national convention compared to Obama needing a teleprompter to address a 6th grade class?

I certainly see the joke....

Mike G
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I'm beginning to see that Sarah is just another pretty face

Uljas
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News flash Bob M, Harry Reid already said Obama was electable because his skin color was lighter not real black. He also doesn't speak with a dialect. If a conservative had made that remark it would be on the news every day until he resigned. And I agree that white guilt was a large part of Oba-Mao getting elected along with trainloads of money, voter fraud , and a media that may as well have been campaigning for him.
The man is like a black hole sucking all the wealth of this nation into it !

Islander
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Well Bob my name is Glen and can you give me another reason why Obama was elected? Was it his business experience, being governor, was a light skinned Negro without a dialect. Why did 90% of African - Americans vote for him if it wasn't because he is 1/2 black. Did people vote for him because of Hope and Change? Are you getting the change you voted for? Why doesn't someone here list Obama's accomplishments that make him qualified to run a country? Not saying Palin is qualified just saying she is more qualified than Obama.
I eagerly await the lists of Obama's leadership position as well as any payrolls he was resposible for.

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When Chris Wallace asked Palin who is the GOP frontrunner for 2012, the only person she specifically mentioned is Paul Ryan of Wisconsin.

Paul Ryan happens to have put forth a detailed plan for repairing the nation's fiscal problems, soundly reasoned and based in small "r" republican principles.

If Palin can succeed at elevating Ryan to household name status and thus get people talking about his plan, she need do nothing else - she will have used her celebrity status to help the country.

Vikingstar
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Well, that means that soon we'll start hearing about what an extremist Ryan is, or how he's not qualified to be President because he didn't go to Harvard, or if he did go to Harvard, well, that will still prove he shouldn't be President; undoubtably, we'll start hearing about any minute imperfection in his family, finances, education, morality (especially if he goes to church--that will raise red flags) and how he doesn't floss his teeth every night--or if he does, how obsessive that makes him.

Domino
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AS WE SPEAK there are people pouring over old vids to see where this has happened in the past... That will be interesting...

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mainemom
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I'm breathless with anticipation, domino. You sure know how to distinguish the trivial from the important.

Islander
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Bob, still waiting for Obama's qualifications . I told you who I am now I would like an answer to my questions. What he didn't run a business, he hung out with domestic terrorists, he wasn't a governor, he went to a Church that hates America so other than being a light skinned person without a Negro dialect unless he wanted one just what are is qualifications? And I would love to see Obama write a speech on his hand rather than read from a teleprompter, problem is I don't think his hands are big enough.

Bob MacGregor
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I was thinking your full name, and not here on AMG because I know people have their reasons. I meant, would you say that in public and take the heat? You somehow have read the minds of millions of voters and found that they elected Obama because he's black? You, sir, are amazing. That is quite an ability, but I think you misread most of the minds.

Qualifications? They are spelled out in the job posting. He was the right age, a citizen, passed all the tests and got enough votes. And since you're intent on comparing him to Palin, he served his elected position almost three times as long as she did.

Here's one for you; Sarah Palin is also "qualified" to be President, based on the rules.

Why did people vote for him? A lot of them voted for him because he wasn't John McCain. They saw McCain as a tired old lifetime politician who offered the status quo from the previous administration, and they were tired of the politics of the Republicans and the direction George Bush took the country.

While you folks all harp on "hoe and change" relentlessly, isn't that what EVERY Presidential candidate pledges? When was the last time one of them stood up and said "folks, I am here to offer no hope, and I promise to keep everything the same"? I agree the words "hope and change" sound fluffy, but to be President you have to have a message and a plan and you have to articulate it. Personally, I'd stay away from the buzzwords.

Accomplishments? A few, about what I expect. I don't expect a President to come into office and make immediate, sweeping change despite what they say in advance. In fact, I think Congress puts a check on that, either to protect the country, or because their own egos won't let them.

Successful Supreme Court nomination, a Nobel Prize (it's an accomplishment, whether or not people agree with it), ignited a HUGE, needed discussion on health care policy, put out the stimulus package which, again, whether you agree with it or not, created a huge number of jobs (short term, perhaps, but MANY of us have benefited from the money), bailed out (again, for better or worse) an important industry, recommitted the US to it's war in Afghanistan (right, or wrong), and gave a whole lot of people in this country reason to believe that their voices were heard and they matter. Despite what many on the right said about the State of the Union speech, I thought he did a pretty good job of telling it like it is, and calling all parties out where he felt they were not acting in the country's best interests.

Oh, and he kept terrorists from causing any deaths on US soil for longer than the previous President. But I learned from several right wing pundits after the Detroit airline attempted bombing, the 911 attacks were one thing, but THIS was a national security disaster!

Domino
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If I didn't laugh, I would weep.

Mike G
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I have to agree Domino about what Bob just posted

Islander
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I agree it was a funny post. Thanks Bob

Bob MacGregor
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Some of it is true and valid. Riddle me this; if Sarah Palin, or John McCain, had been elected, what would they have accomplished by now, given the make up of the house and senate?

Mike G
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Bob,

Domino fed a line so I went for it. I did have to laugh at I presume your typo "hoe' and successful supreme court nominee.

In answer to your question about if Mccain was prez, I'd say not much would have changed, we might have a lower deficit but that might be wishful thinking. We might have bombed Iran by now also, so Obama might have given us something, the war drums are beating hard on that one. I'm betting that he won't be able to resist.

I'd say the difference between the two brands are minor, though most americans will deny it.

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I often refer to Obama as our first affirmative action President. Who cares who she gives her money to or not for that matter. She can laugh all the way to the bank if she wants, that is what makes America great, or used to anyway. Before progressives decided success was not a desirable goal.

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Wonder how well she knows Judge Moore? hmmmmm, I like it. Let him lead, plenty of ojt for her, 16 years of good old American leadership. Works for me.

Uljas
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I am perfectly willing to admit Obama's accomplishments and leadership abilities . He stated he wanted to spread the wealth around and he is. He says capitalism isn.t good and we need to apologize to the world for being wealthy and successful and he is doing it . He feels that we need to be on a more equal footing with the poorer countries and he is implementing policies to destroy our economy. He believes he can make us safe by talking brainwashed,fanatical murderers into changing their ways and if they still try to kill us he'll give them a fair trial like OJ got with a multi million dollar defense team. He has convinced the major media that we are in this recession because of poor economic policies by George Bush such as spending more than the government took in and he is fixing that by spending way more than Bush did ( about 50% more than projected income ) this year.The person overseeing Fannie and Freddie is still in charge and they now have unlimited funding and none of their lending practices have changed even though it has been shown they were a big factor in the banking fiasco, but the President sees no reason to change anything there. He runs around the country in constant campaign mode a year after inaugaration with his I am the greatest attitude and if anything is said against him it must be because the person can't stand the thought of a black president. He is the one who plays the race card while blaming his opponents. If this man is successful he will be credited with turning a once prosperous nation full of oppurtunity into another European socialist style country with high unemployment and low hope of any change . As he creates more government jobs it never occurs to the average person that the government doesn't make a product and sell it to get money to pay its workers,it takes the money from the companies that do and they are leaving , closing ,or see no point in growing. And if he can't get enough money by taxing the "rich" he will print or borrow more. He is heading the ship of state towards the rocks of financial ruin with a crew that is putting on more sail and that is Obama's leadership !!