PEOPLE'S VETO NEARS FINISH LINE
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Looks like we will be voting on it in November!
(PORTLAND, ME) – Looking to overturn a bill signed by Governor John
Baldacci in May approving same sex marriage, Stand For Marriage Maine
announced today that they have collected more than the 55,087 signatures
needed to place a People's Veto on the November ballot and are collecting
additional signatures as insurance to meet the deadline to qualify the
measure for the 2009 statewide election.
"In just four weeks, we've gathered more than 55,000 signatures from
Mainers who believe they, not the legislature and governor, should have
the final say on the definition of marriage," said Marc Mutty, Chairman of
the coalition. "There has been an extraordinary outpouring of support
from voters across the state. This response gives us momentum that will
lift us over the first hurdle of putting the issue before the people and,
ultimately, carry us to victory in November."
All signatures must be certified by the Secretary of State for validity.
Once certified, the issue is cleared to appear on the November 2009
ballot.
"The fact that we've gathered all these signatures in just a month to
proceed with the People's Veto suggests that the people of Maine, like
those in 43 other states, want to restore marriage to its historical and
time-honored definition as between a man and a woman," said Bob Emrich,
founder of the Maine Jeremiah Project and an Executive Committee member of
Stand for Marriage Maine. “We look forward to submitting the measure for
certification and engaging Mainers in a vigorous defense of marriage.
Traditional marriage has never lost on the ballot in any state. We expect
it to prevail in Maine."
Stand For Marriage Maine is a broad-based coalition of business, elected
officials, the Catholic Diocese of Portland, the Maine Jeremiah Project,
and others. Visit www.standformarriagemaine.com for more information.
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Whatever one's position on changing the definition of the word "marriage"; whatever one's position on homosexual marriage, I have personally spoken to scores of Mainers who are angry that the legislature did not allow them a voice in the matter.
Score one for both the First Amendment and democracy.
If it gets to the vote, and Maine votes that gay marriage is a good thing, will the other side finally sit down? What is next for the holier-than-thous to do to keep the money flowing? I mean, there has to be a righteous fight and a place to put the spotlight to get people donating to "the cause." What is next on the agenda? Florescent pink and orange in interior decorating? ;D
I honestly didn't think the state of Maine was ready for it.
Pray tell, how does one "ready" society for the Dadaist notion that a man may be wife to a man, and a woman might be husband to a woman? (No offense intended to legitimate Dadaists) The day we are ready to legitimize such a thing is the day we are ready to live in marshmallow houses and raise concrete roses.
Black with White Spots:If it gets to the vote, and Maine votes that gay marriage is a good thing, will the other side finally sit down? What is next for the holier-than-thous to do to keep the money flowing? I mean, there has to be a righteous fight and a place to put the spotlight to get people donating to "the cause."
Your inability to grasp the history of this silly charade informs your position on it. If this legislative lameness is rejected at the polls as a reasonable electorate should, will the homosecularists who have repeatedly brought this issue to the fore of our schools, churches, halls of government, voting booths, bumper stickers and bilious entertainment biz, finally sit down? What is next for the gayer-than-thous to do to keep the teen-angst flowing? I mean, there has to be a futile fight and a place to put the spotlight to keep the righteously indignant donating to "the cause."
If it gets to the vote, and Maine votes that gay marriage is a good thing, will the other side finally sit down?
Domino, if you had been paying attention, you would have read that this was NOT something that opponents of changing the definition of marriage initiated. We WERE sitting down.
Study your recent history. The ballot is only valid for as long as it takes the homosexual movement proponents to talk another legislator -- or governor...or court -- to pretend it didn't happen.
The question is, will the self-indulgent faction of the homosexual movement finally sit down? Or will they follow their history of dragging it through the courts and then back through the legislature.
As mentioned above, there has not been a single state where the majority of the people wanted such perverse laws to be declared valid.
Domino - You might as well get used to us being around. We will not "sit down" as long as you keep starting fights and trying to force us to approve of what we believe to be wrong. We are not going away. We did not start this.
Your arrogant and ignorant ranting does not deter us in the least. Nor will your dishonest accusations about spotlights and "donating to the cause".
But you keep right on because it helps people to see what you are really about.
Domino, this is not about whether gay marriage is a good or bad thing. This is about an attempt to redefine the term marriage and enshrine in the law. As law the new definition of marriage will then be used to subjugate the rest of us in our places of work and liesure.
This issue has been forced on the people of Maine.
Gay marriage foes in Maine said they've collected enough signatures to stop the new law from going into effect and to force a statewide vote in November.
Mark Mutty from the Stand for Marriage Maine coalition said it took only four weeks to gather the more than 55,087 signatures necessary to put gay marriage to a vote. But he said signature gathering will continue to ensure there's more than enough petitions.
If it gets to the vote, and Maine votes that gay marriage is a not good thing, will the other side finally sit down? What is next for the militant homosexuals to do to keep the money flowing? I mean, there has to be a victim to fight for and a place to put the spotlight to get people donating to "the cause." What is next on the agenda? Outlawing traditional conception? ;D
What are you talking about Domino? Is your head really that buried int he sand? The exploiters of gay citizens money have been pushing this issue from the beginning. They pushed through gay marriage. They pushed through making it a illegal to say homosexuality is immoral. The only 'holier than thou" are the people who were too late or lazy to help blacks get real civil rights so they have decided to exploit a righteous movement (started by Christians) and make it a money making war on Christianity.
Regardless of your or my opinion on this issue, to imply that the Bob Emrich started this battle is either showing a complete lack of any knowledge of the actions of this Legislature or a complete and utter disregard for the truth.
Oh, and for next ont he agenda... First expect to see town clerks, who for religious reasons refuse to perform the ceremony, getting fired from the position and those towns being sued.
Then look no further than Canada and Sweden where churches are being sued and having their tax exempt status threatened or revoked. And rightfully so, if it is a civil rights issue how dare people refuse it? Slave owner did not get a "conscience" objection under the emancipation proclamation.
Either it is civil rights or it isn't. If it is, then no exemptions can be allowed.
If it gets to the vote, and Maine votes that gay marriage is a good thing, will the other side finally sit down?
Domino, if the people of Maine defeat this law, will the gay group stop pushing their agenda down our throats. Somehow, I doubt it!
Not a surprise...Got paid signature gatherers...and big out of state bucks. We knew it would happen. That said, I wonder how Bob would like it if Muslims thought only Muslim marriages were valid? I am sure some do. I am sure there are some Christians who think the exact opposite. If anyone is pushing anything..it is conservative religious folks trying to push their definition of marriage on society. They believe that the only marriage is a religious one...even though plenty of folks get married...divorced...and married again in those same churches. Again, divorce...no problem. Gay...no way.
Be prepared for some slimeball tv ads. I am sure they are coming.
Most Respected Professional Poster:Not a surprise...Got paid signature gatherers...and big out of state bucks. We knew it would happen. That said, I wonder how Bob would like it if Muslims thought only Muslim marriages were valid? I am sure some do. I am sure there are some Christians who think the exact opposite. If anyone is pushing anything..it is conservative religious folks trying to push their definition of marriage on society. They believe that the only marriage is a religious one...even though plenty of folks get married...divorced...and married again in those same churches. Again, divorce...no problem. Gay...no way.
Be prepared for some slimeball tv ads. I am sure they are coming.
So, at today's staff meeting the emphasis was on talking points:
1) Emphasize paid signature gatherers and out-of-state support;
2) Begin process of attacking Bob Emrich directly;
3) Employ Christian-bashing, reference current favorite religion, Islam;
4) Mention conservatives, but when you say it, imagine spitting hairballs;
5) Bring up divorce;
6) Bring ideas for televison ad campaign to next meeting.
How utterly, completely, and reaffirmingly predictable.
(of Charlotte, that is.)
TD, you are entirely out of order with those comments.......
#3 should be at the top.
If anyone is pushing anything..it is conservative religious folks trying to push their definition of marriage on society.
Focus, charlotte! Take a deep breath and read the brief history of this bill.
The definition which has served this society for hundreds of years was not "pushed" by anyone.
Changing that definition is what your homosexual activist friends are pushing.
Trying to make the majority pretend that vice is virtue, cloaking perversity with diversity, and attempting to assuage your guilt over your life's choices by hook or by crook is what this is about. And we all know it, sweetie.
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Charlotte I know many democrats who oppose this and that are voting against it .
Great work Bob thank you .
"Be prepared for some slimeball tv ads. I am sure they are coming."
Well if anyone should know what her partners in defining deviancy down are planning, it would be Charlotte. If the behavior of her soulless mates in California is a guide, we should be prepared for churches being vandalized, racial epithets being hurled, and thuggish attempts at intimidation from the promoters of perversity diversity.
They have started in earnest my friend. One guy that works for me was called the N word 43 times in one day by our sensitive elite, but his favorite line was when one guy said to him he would be happy to sign the petition if he had another one to put his B____ A__ back in chains. We should be so proud of those civil rights teams, they've helped Maine so much.
I am voting to overturn. Not because it really effects me or my marriage in anyway. But because I am sick and tired of being told something I believe is wrong etc. etc.(add all possible labels) i.e. marriage is a man and women period. As I have spoken before in my eyes they will never be married period regardless what a law says.
So I will not sit down ,the pro side has just peeved me off for that reason alone. I will vote that way whenever it comes up!
In the middle: that was low IMHO and not up to standards of how one takes a shot which we all do on occasion above the belt ! Particularly under the guise of respected anonymity.
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We could go round after round here on AMG...we won't change each other....It will just lead to name calling and upset. I've decided to take my time and dedicate it to EQME and the marriage campaign. For FREE.
It is going to be a battle. That said, I will join the side that is trying to rise above and promote equality. If there is anyone on this site that would like me to add them to a supporter voting list... send me a PM.
EQME got 55,000 Mainers in 1 day...who said they supported marriage. Let's keep up the good work.
charlotte - Excellent call on refraining from name-calling. I hope everyone will follow your lead on that.
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Be clear, Charlotte - those people you reference do not support marriage - they support changing marriage...
Did EQME get those signatures while jumping through all the hoops required for a petition? If not, the number is meaningless.
Dist - be clear, here - the folks advocating for EQME aren't trying to change YOUR marriage.
They're only trying to preserve their own.
Essentially, what you're protesting is a piece of paper that will have no real, direct meaning to you in your own, everyday virtual life. Nobody gay is going to expect you to come to dinner, talk to them, or ask them how long they've been pretending to be married.
Heck, they probably won't even bother to talk to you at the corner convenience store.
Your outrage, and that of others, is tilting at windmills. Your marriage is what it is; and regardless of whether legal gay marriage is overturned or not, your marriage will continue to "'be what it is."
Their piece of paper won't negate your piece of paper.
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Can't say I'm surprised. While I may have been in favor of allowing same sex marriage I honestly didn't think the state of Maine was ready for it.