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Sara Pearce
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From http://www.democrats.com/node/13095

Anyone want to show up and give them some hand signals?

VENUE:
Kennebunkport Consolidated School

25 School St.
Kennebunkport, ME 04046

starts: 07/01/2007 - 1:00pm

A citizens summit rally and peace march has been planned for July 1st at 1:00 pm in Kennebunkport, Maine.

President Bush will be entertaining President Vladamir Putin in Kennebunkport, Maine on July 1st and 2nd. The Kennebunk PEACE Department jumped right on this and the permits for a rally and march are in the works.

Since Putin will be in Kennebunkport we can count on hoards of INTERNATIONAL PRESS, the WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORP and national and local media to be present. We want to turn out big numbers for this!! Our theme is TROOPS OUT NOW**BUSH OUT NOW and the Impeachment folks will be really coming out strong for this.

We will meet at 1:00pm on Sunday July 1st at the Consolidated School at 25 School Street in Kennebunkport and then we will march up OCEAN AVE. to the Bush compound. Groups and individuals are encouraged to bring banners, flags, signs and noisemakers, as well as water and snacks.
The keynote speaker is John Kaminsky, president of Maine Lawyers for Democracy. Melida and Carlos Arredondo will be speaking along with Iraq & Afghanistan Veterans and many others. Music by Pat Scanlon and Band, Hannah Marris and others. After the rally we will march up Ocean Avenue to the BUSH compound at Walker's Point. We need some HIP HOP so if you are a political artist please contact us!!

Sara Pearce
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I forgot to add that I found out about this from the Ron Paul meetup group. They will be there WITH the Democrats.
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/23/calendar/5878401/?a=cn1_cn2&gj=ej3

Naran
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There are many irritating factors to Bush's decision to bring Putin to our towns during the busiest week of the entire year. The effect on merchants and restaurants who depend upon this income will likely not be good. If the Port police are forced to shut down parts of the Port (which has happened in the past), there goes all that business income for those affected, with no recourse to make it up.

In addition, the towns will be over-run with protestors. They have the right to assemble, and to march, but at what cost to the communities they're travelling to?

Our local high school has given permission for the protestors to rent their parking lot for the day, despite complaints from residents who don't approve of the use. From the first post on the thread, it would appear they'll be using the parking lot at Consolidated School in the Port, as well.

The district legal eagles' opinion that "they have to rent to anybody" has been cited by school district brass, but some of us don't buy it. How about NO political use of the district facilities? That would be non-discriminatory, but still stop forced subsidization by residents who don't agree with the use.

Bush's father was far more considerate of the local populace in general when he was in office. I think the decision to host Putin here at this time is a lousy one.

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This is what our country is all about.

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[quote="Sara Pearce"]I forgot to add that I found out about this from the Ron Paul meetup group. They will be there WITH the Democrats.[/quote]
Libertarians vs. NeoCons…? I can see that…

Naran
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I don't blame the protestors for this in the least, BTW. It's their right to assemble, march, and voice their opinions, just like I would if I agreed with them. Bush set this up, but we who live here get to pay the price while he and Putin dine on lobster and play golf.

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Naran:

Granted, some feel the timing could be better. But I can only imagine the complexity involved in coordinating the schedules of two of the most important people on earth. The benefit of this meeting, in that setting, could be extremely positive in the future.

On balance, I can’t believe that the swarms of tourists descending upon the area to be part of the experience will not benefit the business community. Further, how many of these businesses owe there very existence to the fact that Kennebunkport is a presidential community. They could have opened a T-Shirt shop in Buxton – put the [b]CHOSE[/b] this area for the very reason you have a problem with. Try to put aside your parochialism for a couple of days and look at the larger issue.

Tourists will flood this area in the weeks & years ahead BECAUSE this type of stuff happens here. More positive than negative.

Naran
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Northarrow -- the restaurants and merchants only benefit if the tourists can drive in, park, and access their establishments. If the Port police close down the whole area due to safety concerns, as has happened in the past, they make no money.

Schedules of the rich and powerful be damned, say I.
:D

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Considering WHO is going to be in town, why would reasonable officials give a permit for a parade?

Will this protest that will cost the tax payers thousands to oversee do anything other than 30 seconds on TV?
answer: NO. Why bother?
I don't do protests. What I do by performing my daily job, to support my family, to support my community(taxes) does more to make this a better place to live than any damned protest by impudent snobs.

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[i]VENUE: Kennebunkport Consolidated School
We will meet at 1:00pm on Sunday July 1st at the Consolidated School at 25 School Street in Kennebunkport.[/i]

Is this an appropriate use of our educational system, vacant or not?

Or are most of the protestors used to parking there everyday during the school year?

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Naran....I think you missed Northarrow's point, which I would have made if he hadn't.

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Knucklehead:

Consolidated School is a little more than ¼ mile from the center of Kennebunkport (Dock Square). It serves as a parking lot for tourists most weekends of the summer season. No effort is ever made by anyone to ascertain the motivation of those who park there about why they are doing so. I don’t think the town should get in the habit of saying that someone who wants to go buy a ceramic lighthouse can park there, but someone who wants to respectfully protest political matters cannot.

If some people wanted to have a pro-life march, they should be allowed to park there. If someone wanted to have a pro-TABOR march on town hall, so should they. If a group wanted to protest the erosion of 2nd amendment rights, let’em park. A town should not be in a position to pick and chose whose cause is more acceptable (or palatable).

However distasteful this particular example is, they are still taxpaying citizens utilizing taxpayer funded facilities in the exercising of a guaranteed constitutional right. The detractors should mount a counter demonstration along their route rather than mount a Denver Boot on their vehicles.

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They should hold the event at the Rachel Carson Wildlife Refuge.

skf

Robert
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Naran, doesn't Washington compensate K-Port for any inconvenience or lost revenue. I thought I read something to this sort with Bush-I

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They should GET A JOB!!!!!!!!!!

Karen Brown
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[quote="Northarrow"]Naran:
. . . two of the most important people on earth . . .

In whose opinion?

Northarrow
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mine.

Frostman
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[quote="gopcollegestudent"]They should GET A JOB!!!!!!!!!![/quote]
What in the world makes you think protests are not enployed...?

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It's the GOP mindset. Republican protestors are all gainfully employed, others must be unemployed.

8)

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From what I heard, the only people reimbursed for losses do to situations like this are Maine State Police, Kennebunkport Police Department, York County Sheriff's Department, and any other police agency to pay for the man power as to not affect the local, county, and state budgets. I am not aware of or have I heard about any restaurants or merchants being reimbursed for any business loss or inconvenience this may cause them. I used to manage a business in that area and we were never reimbursed for anything for the years while I was there.

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There is no reimbursement for businesses with real or imagined losses associated with a Presidential visit.

But I would like to offer the following remedy. I would favor using my tax money to reimburse any legitimate business loss directly resulting from the 2-day Presidential visit, [b]IF[/b] they agree to give the taxpayers a cut of the profits they generate the other 363 days of the year from capitalizing on the panache of owning a business in the town made famous by Presidential visits. Sound reasonable?

Naran
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PM is correct. I have never heard of any merchant or restaurant being reimbursed for lost business.

Northarrow - I know all about tourist business, and Presidential visits, pro and con. I was the office manager for the local Chamber of Commerce back when Bush Sr. was in office.

Before he was elected, the area was full of high-end art galleries, and art studios, and loads of great antique stores, rare book stores, etc. People used to come here, stay for a week or two at a local inn or B&B, shop at the galleries and buy books and antiques, eat here, enjoy the beaches, and then leave.

Once he was elected, the majority of the stores rapidly changed to tee shirt stores, souvenir shops, and most of the high-end places departed, poste haste.

To say the area has changed a wee bit since he took office would be the understatement of the millenium. Yes, we get tourist business as a result of Presidential doings. Guess what? Ask most of those tourists where they're staying. It's not at a lovely, gracious bed and breakfast in Kport or Kennebunk, or one of our beautiful inns.

Most of the time, the response is Wells, or Moody. They stay down there, in a cheaper campground, motel, or RV park. They come here for a couple hours, look around, take pictures out at Walker's Point, maybe buy an ice cream, and leave town again.

You cannot say that just because Bush lives here in the summertime for a couple weeks, that the area necessarily does better business year-round than it did pre-Presidential. It simply isn't true.

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During the reign of George I, my job had me commuting to the Lowell area of MA. I had to change plans more than once because I couldn't book a hotel room there. The Secret Service overflow from Kennebunkport spread all the way down.

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Yeah - believe me, I remember it very well. The whole town was full of blue vans, and guys in suits wearing earpieces. Kind of like this weekend will be, only substitute dark blue SUV's. They used to take up entire blocks of motels and hotels here. And guess what? They don't shop a whole lot, either.

Between them, and all the media, it's a circus.

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Naran:

I too have worked the ‘Port’. I spent 4 summers working in Dock Square during the heyday of the great local Hotels (Narragansett, Sea Spray, Shawmut etc.). The eventual demise of that type of facility has more to do with the ever increasing costs these businesses had in operating, as well as the public’s change of taste in how they wanted to vacation.

It is simply not accurate to link the election of Bush 41 to what was concurrently going on at the time. It’s overly simplistic to use the Bush ascendance locally to explain a dynamic process that was being repeated up and down the Maine coast.

Yes, we have changed much [b]since[/b] Bush landed, but not necessarily [b]because[/b] he landed.

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We will have to agree to disagree. I know former owners of art galleries and book stores who would definitely disagree with you.

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I have a friend who manages a 24 hour convenience store in the area and he told me his sales on midnight shift sky rocket as they send one of those SUVs or a cruiser to get beverages for everybody. He said they call their order in ahead of time as to have everything ready to go, the previous shift brings over several thermos'. They show up, lay the money out on the counter for the coffee, juice, soda, gatorade, ect. and off they go almost as fast as they came in. It gives new meaning to the words "Drive Thru"

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[quote]Once he was elected, the majority of the stores rapidly changed to tee shirt stores, souvenir shops, and most of the high-end places departed, poste haste. [/quote]

Boy that's a heavy burden to place on one person/family.

I'm told that the exodus of artist to Ogunquit was because they felt more appreciated there. I believe the election was coincidental. If it wasn't then by the extension of your logic the disruption of idyllic Port life would have happened when George Bush Sr. was vice-president. There have been dignitaries in and out of KPort quietly since the CIA days of George Bush Sr. What has changed is the lack of respect for the office (regardless of party) that enables people to feel it is OK to disrupt a presidential retreat.

I am not at all happy with the crawfordizing of the Kennebunks.

IMHO.

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I remember there were times you would not know about meetings with dignitaries until after they left as to keep a low profile.

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Now they are announced 2 months in advance

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Kevin,

I guess you could call it, remember the good ole days. Nobody knew nothin' and nobody cared.

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