UPDATE 8/12: DA Drops Domestic Abuse Charges Against J. Dwight

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Robert Reed
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Domestic assault is a seriou

Domestic assault is a seriou issue and police MUST take it seriously...lets face it the potential outcome from not doing anything is far worse than by erring on the side of caution. I do like Adrienne's concept of the interview and getting further information by trained volunteers. In this case the police were wrong in their actions, but what about next time when they decide its okay and do nothing and an hour later a murder is committed by same individual? So far all we have is officers overzealously doing their job for fear of greater damage by not doing their job and we have this whisper campaign of a conspiracy....frankly, I would think the progressives would have more important things to do int argetting legislators rather than a governor, but hey thats the strategist in me knowing the legislature makes mroe decisions affecting our future than the governor.

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Would be interesting to read

Would be interesting to read the arresting officer's report to see just what "probable cause" there was to justify the arrest. Or was it in fact based on the policy that one or the other "must" be arrested in such situations.

charlie

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So Lawrence Dwight writes

So Lawrence Dwight writes under the name J Dwight, and posts on AMG under IDwight. Very Confusing. See [url=http://www.asmainegoes.com/content/stop-turbines#comment-461978]here[/url]

Tom C
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why not have a couple

why not have a couple volunteers from a Women's Advocacy group interview the woman several times, for the purpose of doing a 'risk assessment' (interview needs to be video taped - I think)...

There are programs in place where this happens, and I have heard complants numerous times that the women who are interviewed by these "advocates" are pressured to confirm - and even embellish - claims against their husbands - sometimes under the threat of having their children taken away.

In over a decade of working with men alienated by the system, I have heard dozens of complaints about volunteers from the women's advocacy CASA (Judge Field's favorite organization) encouraging and even pressuring women to make false allegations.

CASA will, however, make a special effort to refute abuse charges against WOMEN:

The oldest daughter also told the CASA that she had allegedly been physically abused by her mother, among other things. Working with other parties to the case, the advocate was able to determine that some of the girl’s claims were false

Success Stories

"Women's advocates" are the ones that have totally screwed up the system.

Mike G
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lets face it the potential

lets face it the potential outcome from not doing anything is far worse than by erring on the side of caution.

That is the rational for all injustices perpetuated by the state

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I attended the hearing this

I attended the hearing this morning. Adrienne still officially has "victim" status and is allowed to say nothing whatever about it. J can now return home after all alcoholic beverages and firearms have been removed.

The booze is all at my home, where it will be carefully supervised. The firearms are also stored at my place along with the ammunition. Thus I may have an opportunity to perforate any home invaders with a variety of punctures.

The only "probable cause" appears to be a mistaken phone call from an alarmed octogenarian, unless Adrienne is fabricating everything she has written here or told me---which she has not. Apparently the "victims" have no say in the matter.

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lets face it the potential

lets face it the potential outcome from not doing anything is far worse than by erring on the side of caution.

That is the rational for all injustices perpetuated by the state

Mike G has put his finger on the very pulse of tyranny....

Naran
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Flammen - thank you for the

Flammen - thank you for the update. Presumably, if you do use the Dwight firearms to perforate any intruders coming in search of their vinous and spirituous liquors, you could use the fiery liquids to sterilize the bullet holes, prior to cauterization.

I am sorry for what the Dwights are going through, and hope the Piranha Press leave them alone.

PS - what, no court-ordered Stogie Seizure? Clearly, this is remiss, since certain sizes of cigars could be used as weapons by themselves; and once lit, they're ALL a menace!!
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Tom C
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Apparently the "victims" have

Apparently the "victims" have no say in the matter.

No, it's all about "scr#w the man."

I mean, isn't the whole thing stupid? We have a boatload of laws, requirements and regulations, they spend tens of millions of dollars a year on domestic violence programs in Maine... and we STILL hear how it is a "serious problem we need to address."

This program is stupid and a complete failure. It's nothing more than the "judges and feminists full employment act." Wake up, for God's sake.

The only "probable cause" appears to be a mistaken phone call..,

See:

Officer takes the stand in police shooting suit

In that case a citizen was excuted by the police in his own front yard, based only on the "probable cause" of a misinformed, confused hysterical neighbor.

So, I suppose that under the circumstances, Mr. and Ms. Dwight should count their blessings.

An uninformed, sacred, hysterical citizenry is the police state's best friend.

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Find it disturbing Governor

Find it disturbing Governor would contemplate/request/accept resignations based on nothing. Have read/been told he prizes loyalty above all else. Why not stand by J and other resignees until such time as proven guilty? Why are these people getting zero support from executive branch?

deadbeat
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Naran: You mean like Rep.

Naran: You mean like Rep. Wintle?

Naran
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Your comment makes no sense.

Your comment makes no sense.

Bruce Libby
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Once again there is a

Once again there is a difference between your fired and "step down until....resolution of ..matters",which was reported as being said !

Michelle Anderson
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…the potential outcome from

…the potential outcome from not doing anything is far worse than by erring on the side of caution.
Unless, of course, we are speaking of voter registration and potential voter fraud.

Stephen Carmichael
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Flammen wrote: "Adrienne

Flammen wrote: "Adrienne still officially has "victim" status and is allowed to say nothing whatever about it."

Dose this mean there is now a gag order in place or did they simply not allow her to state her offical first hand witness statment?

Is it not protocall to collect a witness statement when any field investigation is conducted or has the DV system simply gone with the rule of Officer observations trumps any facts.
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For the sake of debate I will attempt to figure out how a Police Officer might determine Probable Cause existed. I was once told by a wise instructor that the best test for determining probable cause was to use the 51% rule. If there is more then a 50% certainty that a reasonable person may arrive at the same conclusion as the officer that a crime may have taken place.

So given some of the segments I’ve read on this thread I’ve developed a formula for how the Officer may have calculated 51%.

The call was placed by the relative, who was concerned about the argument. (20% given to the call.)

Then the caller indicated the phone was not being answered. (10%)

The Officer show up and saw a pool gathering with alcohol involved (20%).

The subject was a male. ( 1%) for a grand total of 51%.

As you can see the formula can be adjusted to whatever numerical value one wishes, but the point to be made is at no aperant time did any statements from the involved parties determine the outcome of the measure. This is the key to the missing substance of a compelling case, but seeing that it is domestic in nature all reason is tossed out the window for the sake of poetically sedative consequences.

Thought the system itself is engineered to be immune to any compassion to the people entering into the process of justice, the process itself is daunting and extremely disruptive to the lives of those it impacts. If the system were to consider the facts before proceeding any further with legal rules and procedural formalities, then the system may not be so back logged with cases. IMO

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Dwight enters not guilty plea

Dwight enters not guilty plea to assault charge
By Judith Meyer, Managing Editor/days
Jul 21, 2011 12:00 am

Dwight’s bail was amended to permit him to return to the family residence....

...Dwight requested amended bail with the full support of his wife, described as “the alleged victim in this case.”

[Adrienne] has also posted...on AMG, critical of what she believes to be a “reckless, politically motivated media” publishing reports that will have far-reaching and harmful effects on herself and her family over what she considers to be “an innocent, honest mistake.”

http://www.sunjournal.com/franklin/story/1063295

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Thanks, FTM - that's about as

Thanks, FTM - that's about as close as a modern news media story comes to saying "Ooooops... maybe we jumped to a conclusion."

Dan Billings
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Good to see they kept the

Good to see they kept the Governor out of the lead this time.

eagleisland
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On this one, he did what he

On this one, he did what he had to do. And the LSJ realized they jumped the gun.

Dan Billings
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They didn't "jump the gun."

They didn't "jump the gun." They were totally off track. The Governor should never have been part of the story. He didn't even appoint the person at issue in the story.

Charlie Colgan used to be on the committee in question. If he had been arrested a year ago, would the Sun Journal have described him as a Baldacci advisor?

Adrienne
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Quote from the Sun Journal

Quote from the Sun Journal article:

"Dwight, 54, known professionally as J Dwight, entered the plea in 12th District Court Thursday morning, through his attorney Kevin Joyce. Dwight did not attend the hearing."

Fun fast facts:
I'm pretty sure I made it to the correct court house at the correct time.
Outside the courtroom, I hugged and kissed my husband.
Kevin Joyce wasn't there.

I'm sorry, but I may have to add incompetent to "reckless, politically motivated media", for failing to verify the simplest facts.

Once again, reckless because they couldn't wait until the court made a determination, politically motivated because they juxtaposed his political affiliation (contributions) with domestic violence, and now incompetent because the simplest of details weren't accurate.

Mike G
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The media is invariably

The media is invariably wrong, if you know the exact situation or the subject of the story, the media will always get it wrong and many times they are at least 50% wrong. That is our half-assed media and how many of us read an article and assume they have it right, we too often forget that.

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The media is invariably

The media is invariably wrong, if you know the exact situation or the subject of the story, the media will always get it wrong and many times they are at least 50% wrong. That is our half-assed media and how many of us read an article and assume they have it right, we too often forget that.

And yet how many times are they referred to when looking back at history. Quite often, which is sad.

Tom C
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Good to see they kept the

Good to see they kept the Governor out of the lead this time.

This was a smear job by the media, no doubt.

But, for what it's worth, I'm going to comment on the LePage connection.

1. Governor LePage came out recently as being against domestic violence. Well, that's certainly good news for all involved, but I think that the only reason he made a point about it, (and stated the bogus "85% of domestic violnce is against women" claim) was soley to get the harpies off his back.

In light of the recent vicious Richard Jeskey killing, this statement may have been insensitive.

However, I'm willing to cut Governor LePage some slack on this one.

2. Although LePage didn't appoint Mr. Dwight, he did make a comment about expecting Mr. Dwight to step down. That was newsworthy. I also think it was a reasonable request under the circumstances. Mr. Dwight, when cleared, should be entitled to full reinstatement.

3. Governor LePage, in his concern about domestic violence may want to consider the details of this entire farce, and wonder why the tens of millions of dollars we are spending on domestic violence is, instead, going to support this type of foolishness. This type of situation is not an isolated incident. - it happens many times every week in Maine.

He may even conclude, as I have, that this ongoing judicial circus is THE REASON that domestic violence continues to be a problem in Maine - the resources are misused and misdirected.

Also, the Dwights, having experience the full force of the Maine domestic violence system, may want to share their experiences with others - including those in the administration - to assure that those in power can understand for themselves what a joke it is.

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Adrienne - please keep us

Adrienne - please keep us posted if the SJ prints a correction, or a retraction. Thank you.

Robert Reed
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Naran - you are such a

Naran - you are such a dreamer...

Butch Moore
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So when does Adrienne get to

So when does Adrienne get to testify in defense of her husband to clear his name? I'm confused as to how this case can even be continuing at this point...

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So am I, Butch. I just can't

So am I, Butch. I just can't understand why a judge would not listen to the wife, the supposed victim, and put a stop to this craziness. Nor can I understand why the prosecutor would continue to pursue it.

charlie

Tom C
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I know that a domestic

I know that a domestic violence prosecution - or any prosecution for that matter - can continue without the assistance of the alleged victim - but in a DV case, can the alleged victim testify for the defense - or are they actually PROHIBITED from doing that?

Nor can I understand why the prosecutor would continue to pursue it.

Charlie, you, of all people, should know the answer to this one.

The booze is all at my home, where it will be carefully supervised. The firearms are also stored at my place along with the ammunition.

If you took the cigars, too, and stored everything in your bureau, then we'd have the Flammenreffer Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

Which brings us to "Maine - the Way Life Should Be!"

(I'll bring the chips!)

charlie neville
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I know why the prosecutor

I know why the prosecutor pursued me, Tom C. That reason doesn't apply here, so far as I can tell.

charlie

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