Question For Democrats Concerning Caucus
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I once heard that Hillary Clinton and some other Democrats wanted to throw out the electoral college and just go by pure popular vote. That way all they would have to do is campaign in the largest cities and ignore everything else.
MSEA-SEIU is backing Dean. I wouldn't want a lot of publicity about now if I were them. :D Al[ 01-30-2004: Message edited by: Al Greenlaw ]
Al, when I went to New Hampshire last weekend to help out Bush and saw signs and tshirts everywhere that said that. Is that a union or something?Here is information on the Maine Caucuses for anyone that is interested.http://207.21.240.115/mdp/Caucuspamphlet.pdf
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Al, when I went to New Hampshire last weekend to help out Bush and saw signs and tshirts everywhere that said that. Is that a union or something?
Tony, MSEA is the Maine State Employees Association and SEIU is the Service Employees International Union, which is under the umbrella of the AFL-CIO. Several years ago, MSEA affiliated with the SEIU. It was contested at the time, and only passed by a narrow margin, if I recall correctly. As I understand it, about a third of state employee dues now go to SEIU. SEIU endorsed Dean, so consequently MSEA followed suit. I doubt there are many Dean supporters among the membership, but we have no choice in the matter. Al
TonyOOne thing that ought to be changed in this state and across the nation, is when all the electoral college votes from one state goes to the popular vote of that state.In essence, all you Republican voters get absolutely no impact on the national election, you might as well just stay home.Let's say as I expect will happen, the dems in both the north and south counties of this state turn out for the vote for the Dem candidate. Both electorals will be voting Dem.So what's the point in even showing up, it's like trying to vote down a bond issue.There must be a better way.I know it always doesn't work that well with all the gerrymandering and all, but what the hell worth a shot.
The problem is Mike, the Democrats and Republicans have it fixed so that they are the only ones in the game. Whenever a Perot or Nadar or similar person or party comes along, you wouldn't believe how well the two parties work together with the media to demonize and destroy them. They did it to the Reform Party, and tried to demonize Nadar for "losing" the election in 2000 for Gore.I support Bush on national security, but I'm disturbed by this half trillion dollar boondoggle prescription drug plan and the proposed amnesty for illegal aliens. But what the hell can you do? You try to work in one of the parties as best you can for the issues you care about.Bush better hope the hell that someone like McCain or Lieberman don't go Independent this year.
GeorgeI think the point is that if every state did it the way Maine and Neb does, then it would change the whole ball game.You cannot use past experince, becuase as TonyO points out some states are not in play because they are owned by the other side. Put each district in play and they would play the game very differently.Steven Scharf
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This is a serious question for my Democrat friends who will be participating in the Maine caucuses on 2/8.Why hasn't Maine been mentioned in the media at all? I was watching MSNBC the other night and they had a map on the screen of the upcoming primaries and caucuses and they didn't even show or mention Maine. But they were sure to mention Wisonsin on 2/17.Are the candidates going to largely ignore Maine? Are any of them going to visit? I've seen a couple of Kucinich signs on Casco Bay bridge, but those are the only ones I've seen.You would think with 35 Democrat delegates at stake, they would be paying a little more attention to Maine.