Rep. Eder Wants Non-Citizens Voting in Municipal Elections
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Rep. John Eder is on WLOB this a.m. supporting non-citizens voting in municipal elections.
State Rep John Eder and Author Ron Hayduk will be on tomorrow morning at 6:30am
I take it that John Eder doesn't believe in the U.S. Constitution then does he? Oh well, I never thought he did, this just confirms it.
Agreed, Apollo. But that brings up another question.
It is clear that Ted Kennedy and his ilk are gung-ho on letting non-citizens vote and headed that way.
Would this travesty require a Constitutional Amendment? Or could he slide around it like he's done everything else in his life and career?
Splash
There is nothing in the constitution that prohibits legal immigrants from voting in local elections.
Certainally asking the question of whether they think illegal immigrants should be allowed to vote would be a good one. I suspect there will be a long thread here on why this is a travesty etc, with none of those posting making an effort to come hear the others side of the issue.
It is not an issue that I have the care to argue. I am more concerned with that tax giveaways by our city council while raising taxes to Portland homeonwwers. If my other meeting is over, I will show up to listen.
Steven Scharf
SCSMedia@aol.com
Of course they won't worry about a Consitutional amendment. Since when do liberals believe in the rule of law?
But Steve, would you admit that the illegals are making your taxes higher? I herad today that 70% of the arrest warrants for murder in Los Angeles are illegals. many diseases thought wiped out here in the USA are now active again such as, TB, leprosy and others because of the illegals. The grea majority of ER activity is illegals. A large number of MV accidents are illegals and most don't have drivers licemses, registration or insurance.
Yes they may be doing work that our welfare slufs don't want to do but at what cost. Our all seeing, all smart Congress has created this mess and we are left paying for it. As it stands the US of A is doomed.
If we let non-citizens vote at all, we may as well just stop the charade of calling ourselves a nation and just fold. Just give up. I'm tired of paying taxes for a non-country. Why even have a military if we don't have a nation to defend? It's all so pointless if they allow non-citizens the vote!
DOES HE MEAN THESE ILLEGAL ALIENS SHOULD GET THE VOTE?
Note especially the case in Somerville, Massachusetts where a gang of illegals raped two American girls in wheel chairs, one a deaf-mute....
http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.html
"They're only here to do jobs that Americans don't want to do." - like robbing, raping, and killing
WELCOME TO THE FALL OF THE AMERICAN EMPIRE
THE BARBARIANS ARE OVER THE WALLS AND THE ENEMY IS WITHIN THE GATES
The analogy I wanted to use with these people was: I'm in a Chevy, and using GMAC to pay for it, and I buy genuine GM parts. I'm paying money to GM and I have a vested "interest" in what happens to the company, but I don't get to vote on the board of directors. If I want to vote, I need to buy stock. If I don't like it, I can drive a Ford, but no stock, no vote.
If these people want to vote, buy stock in America, become a citizen.
By the way, why do these "reps" represent anyway?
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Mainelion: so are you saying that it's Bush who wants to give the vote to non-citizens? If they mean to exploit them the last thing they would want to do is give them the right to vote.
No, the plan of both the Republicans and Democrats is to unify Mexico, the United States, and Canada into a single North American entity, an intermediate step on the path to global government.
That is why we are being flooded with illegals to create the first "GLOBAL NATION."
If you don't believe me, ask Senator Barbara Mikulski.
Not to worry , he came across as an idiot with a common
speech impediment!
"He couldn't say Illegal"
As a matter of form do not local elections only require
residency not citizenship a federal requirement ?
No matter I am against it
angler.k,
I'm not saying that Bush is for illeagals vtoing, but he kept the flow of them up to depress wages and now he's reaping the whirlwind. If he'd have made securing our borders a priority, it would have happened. We can put a man on the moon, but we can't put up a decent fence?
Four years later, but it's still on the Burner.
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Updated: 4:00 PM
Petitioners for non-citizen vote collect 2,000 signatures
By Tom Bell tbell@mainetoday.com
Staff Writer
Organizers who are petitioning to give non-citizens the right to vote in Portland elections say they have gathered about 2,000 signatures and plan to collect at least 3,000 more at polling places around the city on Election Day next Tuesday.
The group needs to collect 4,495 valid signatures by July 14 to put a question on the ballot next November.
The League of Young Voters is leading the petition drive.
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What part of "American Citizen" escapes the supporters of this outrageous measure?
If I were a Portland voter, you can bet your prize Aspidistra that my answer to the petitioners on election day would be "No Way."
It will be impossible to get 3000 sig on election day. 4700 people voted in Portland in the 2006 primary which had no auxiliary issues on the ballot. I suspect 1500 of them have already signed the petition. 500 will vote absentee and not walk by the table. 1000 will go out the entrance to avoid petition tables. Leaving 1700 people to talk with. The only time I have gotten 80% of the voters to sign a petition was in Standish for the LD 1495 petition at a school building bond vote last September where Standish overwhelmingly voted down the bond. This is going to get less than 50% of that 1700 to sign.
Although I am not going to sign it, the only reason I do not want it on the November ballot is that I am concerned that it will confuse and distract the voters who will be voting on the Elected Mayor and other charter changes.
Steven Scharf
SCSMedia@aol.com
Just the fact that allowing a non-citizen to vote in a country is even considered shows how ridiculous politics have become. Lets take it the next step and let non-citizens vote by absentee ballot.
If we allow non-citzens to vote do you think the muslims will let their cattle,scratch that, I mean women vote?
Posted: 12:00 AM
Noncitizen vote petition falling short
A group in favor of voting rights for noncitizens got about 1,000 fewer people to sign up than expected.
By Tom Bell tbell@mainetoday.com
Staff Writer
PORTLAND — Petitioners seeking to grant voting rights to noncitizens collected about 1,000 signatures fewer than expected at the Portland polls Tuesday. Organizers blamed low turnout in Portland for the shortfall.
The petitioners... expected to turn the petitions in ...this week, but ...about 1,000 signatures short of... 5,000.
The group now plans to collect 300 signatures a week before turning them in by the July 14 deadline...
They had almost 3 times the number of voters to meet than I predicted for Portland and still did not get more than 1000 signatures.
Steven Scharf
SCSMedia@aol.com
Which shows how many Portland residents have a brain, and more importantly, an understanding of the phrase "American CITIZEN."
Participatory democracy requires participation – if legal residents (albeit non-citizens) pay taxes, they should be given the opportunity to vote in local and school board elections. To deny them this opportunity for participation is wrong, if you believe that taxation without representation is unjust.
Steven, We collected over 2,000 - almost double the 1000 you predicted we would not gather. The article states that the league got 1,000 fewer signatures than expected- the goal was 3K and actual was just over 2K.
Francisz is a liberal. Who knew?
Who knew?
Oh, wait, let me check my Nolan quadrant to be sure. Or start cramming to take the World’s Smallest Political Quiz.
Again.
My law firm pays a big tax bill in Waterville. Should I get a vote in Waterville elections as a result? Or the law firm?
If people don't pay taxes, should they not get the vote?
Dan - sounds like you should get two votes in Waterville - one as a member of your law firm, and the other for all those parking tickets you pay.
Should all of the camp owners get to vote whereever their camps are?
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John and Stephen Spring are having an event tonight at Portland High School about this.
Hope to see you all there for the discussion in room 304 at PHS - 7:00 on Apr. 12th.
Come right in the front door facing Cumberland Ave.
In Service,
Stephen Spring
Portland School Board
http://springcares.blogspot.com
You sometimes have to take the good with the bad. They only want to allow immigrant voting in local elections.
I may make it there.
Steven Scharf
SCSMedia@aol.com