Romney announced as winner of Maine caucuses

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Bob S
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Ron Paul took Androscoggin

Ron Paul took Androscoggin county by over 100 votes. Santorum 2nd and Romney 3rd. I was happy to see that quite a few people sporting Ron Paul stickers were elected as delegates. That is the important fact. By the comments that I had heard, the old quard, (the Olympians) were not happy.

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TEAM LEPAGE FOR IMMEDIATE

TEAM LEPAGE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Saturday, February 11, 2012
CONTACT: Brent Littlefield – LePage Senior Political Advisor 877-441-5795

Governor LePage Statement on Maine Republican Presidential Caucus Results

Statement by Governor Paul LePage, R-Maine:

“Republicans from throughout Maine have made their choice known in the GOP Presidential nominating contest. It is clear our most pressing problem is the continued need to grow our economy. I am proud that under my Governorship the unemployment rate has dropped, but we must do more. Maine is interconnected with other states in our nation and we must tackle this problem at all levels of government. That is why I am confident, when this nominating contest is over and a nominee is chosen, that Maine Republicans will join independents in putting new policies in place in Washington that advance economic growth.” – Governor Paul LePage

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LarryinAugusta
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Three inches of snow???????

Three inches of snow??????? My understanding is that the Girl Scouts did not cancel in Washington County the same day. They don't even cancel school for three inches. Snow favored Ron Paul and it was close. If this is the case as to why the caucas was cancelled shame on the people who did it. It is also my understanding that the County Chair thought his county votes would count. Why would they not count every vote?

"The Paul campaign had tried to lower expectations somewhat during the day, alleging that the Romney campaign had been involved in some tricky business, and predicting that the results would be very close.

In particular, a senior Paul aide had suggested that the Romney campaign was involved in the cancellation of Washington County’s caucuses, a small county where Paul’s campaign had expected to do well. “It’s not completely insidious, but they knew we were going to swamp it up there,” said Paul campaign chairman Jesse Benton.

The state GOP said that the caucuses were cancelled due to inclement weather."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72758_Page2.html#ixzz1mBCBnuhW

Dan Billings
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Washington County would not

Washington County would not have changed the result.

When the State Committee adopted the straw poll process, it was made clear that a caucus had to happen by yesterday to participate in the straw poll.

Not a single straw poll vote "counts." It is a straw poll. What counts is the people elected at the State Convention in May. Washington County's votes will count there.

I have never understood why the State rules have not been amended to require all caucuses on one day as is done by the Democrats and in other states.

LarryinAugusta
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Dan, I am a big supporter of

Dan,

I am a big supporter of Charley and what you guys are doing and I appreciate it but saying this the State Committee screwed this one up. We have the most confusing process in the counrty and it makes us irrelevant. Yes, less than 150 people voted in the Washington County straw poll in 2008 but that does not mean that only 150 people would vote this time. Obviously communication was an issue because the County Chair stated that he did not know his votes would not count. If we are going to be so loosy goosy with the results we should have a HUGE margin of error and Charley should have declared the state a tie.

"Washington County Republican Chairman Chris Gardner said that when the decision was made to postpone the caucuses, he didn't realize his county's votes wouldn't count toward the total."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-02-11/romney-paul-maine...

Dan Billings
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This process got the Maine

This process got the Maine GOP caucuses more attention from candidates and the national media and more participation than any caucuses since I became involved in the party in 1998.

Traci G
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At state committee we were

At state committee we were asked to try to get all the caucuses done between the 4th and the 11th so an announcement could be made.

the decision to make an announcement had already been made. that was not voted on by the body of the committee. I was not for this personally because I knew that whoever won the beauty contest there would be grumbling about other peoples caucuses not being counted in the presidnetial preference polling.

I had a call this morning from a man who agreed to help organize a caucus in northern penobscot who questioned what the point would be now~ luckily he is still willing to assist in finding a person to call the caucus for his town and surrounding towns after I explained that we have until March 20th.

I also had a call from a lady who was irate that Penobscot County had the super caucus on Feb. 4th and we were supposed to have them, in her opinion, on Feb. 11th. she was PO'ed and I had to explain to her that some towns were not caucusing until March. she calmed down but she was really really mad. Its hard to build the party when stuff like this happens.

LarryinAugusta
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What were the totals for this

What were the totals for this straw poll compared to 2008. I bet you a coffee that there were less participants this year. I know that Augusa had less. As far as Media attention I did not see a whole lot. I don't remember a whole lot from 2008 either. How do you measure this? We got both Romney and Paul in here because it was close. This is not to say that it we went on a Tuesday night and it was going to be close we would not have gotten them both to come.

2008
100% of precincts reporting[14][15] Candidate State Delegates Percentage Delegates
Mitt Romney 2,837 51.67% 20
John McCain 1,176 21.42% 0
Ron Paul 1,002 18.25% 1
Mike Huckabee 318 5.79% 0
Fred Thompson* 8 0.15% 0
Rudy Giuliani* 3 0.05% 0
Alan Keyes 1 0.02% 0
Uncommitted 136 2.48% 0
Write-in 9 0.16% 0
Total 5,491 100% 21
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine_Republican_caucuses,_2008

2012
Maine Republican Caucus, 2012[8] [9]
Candidate Votes Percentage Estimated national delegates
Mitt Romney 2,190 39.2% 11
Ron Paul 1,996 35.7% 10
Rick Santorum 989 17.7% 0
Newt Gingrich 349 6.2% 0
Others 61 1.1% 0
Totals 5,585 100.00% 24

I guess I owe Dan a coffee.

Dan Billings
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The numbers released by the

The numbers released by the State Party last night shows a total number of votes of 5585.

All of the national news networks had live coverage from Portland last night -- Fox, CNN, and MSNBC. Channel 6 broadcast the whole 6 PM news from the announcement.

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I would support amending the party rules so that, in presidential years, caucuses should be held on one day, preferably a Saturday.

I think we would have had more participation if all the caucuses were held yesterday after the Romney and Paul campaigns placed a big focus on Maine. (Paul had done that earlier but competition gets people more motivated.)

LarryinAugusta
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If I was Romney I would not

If I was Romney I would not be happy with the Maine results. He received 13% less then last time. Wow and in his back yard.

LarryinAugusta
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OK, I was at the party last

OK, I was at the party last time and I don't remember a lot of national news people. I just know I was a little disappointed in the coverage as compared to the other states. Maybe that was because we released our results all at once and the other states released data as it came out. Now that would be exciting, releasing the poll data as it was being collected.....

That could make Maine unique, like a mini national primary.

Dan Billings
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I voted against encouraging

I voted against encouraging towns not to release their straw poll results before last night, but I think it worked out well.

Naran
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The York County caucus in

The York County caucus in Sanford yesterday was very crowded, and the media coverage was extensive. CNN was roaming the main building, and their cameras were seemingly everywhere. Local newspapers were well-represented, too.

We met at a school, and the large parking lots were full, with vehicles lining the main road for blocks on both sides. When the caucus chairman asked for "first-timers," many, many hands shot up all over the assembled crowd.

As I mentioned earlier, the Kennebunk town caucus (following the York County caucus) had a great turnout; larger than 2008, from what I recall. Lots of new faces yesterday.

--> Overall, I would say the Maine caucus process gained a lot of attention from the state's voters, with many attending for the first time. I would expect the same for the convention on May 5/6.

I can understand why some people would be concerned about their straw poll results being omitted from yesterday's announcement, but as Dan said, the REAL vote will be at the convention in May.

--> Any caucus meeting between now and the March deadline has the option of posting their straw poll results on AMG, and sending letters to the local papers, as well. Those county groups can still get their results to the public, for consideration.

I would encourage everyone to move forward, put aside the conspiracy theories and the squabbling, and keep their eye on the GOP Convention in May.

Thank you.

Bob S
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I didn't see any media at

I didn't see any media at Androscoggin. I wonder why, because Romney finished 3rd?

Dan Billings
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Romney and Paul were both in

Romney and Paul were both in Sanford so they got their video there.

mainemom
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Bob S, very exciting that so

Bob S, very exciting that so many came out to support Ron Paul.
Will they stay involved and help elect conservatives to the Maine legislature?

Naran
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Good question, Mainemom. Our

Good question, Mainemom. Our caucus chairman reminded yesterday's crowd that the goal is for unified GOP support - no matter which person emerges as the GOP POTUS nominee. We need to get good GOP candidates elected to all levels of governance - not just the office of the president.

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Meanwhile, the misinformation, and the conspiracy theories about caucus cancellations continues.

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Reader comments from PPH:

[quote]DefendAmerica wrote:
17% of the caucus sites in Maine were cancelled - and the Romney campaign were involved with the RNC chairman in Maine - in having them cancelled.
These sites can vote later, but were told that the votes wouldn't count.
RON PAUL will win in these sites.
This is nothing but corruption. Mainers, you have been disenfranchised...what are you going to do about it?[/quote]

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[u]Naran Row-Spaulding wrote, in reply to DefendAmerica[/u]:

I expect you have proof of your despicable allegations that the RNC chairman and the Romney campaign collaborated to have some Maine caucuses cancelled yesterday.

I would pay cash money to watch you make those accusations in person to the Washington County GOP committee - particularly the chairman.

--> Meanwhile, what you seem to ignore is that yesterday's results pertain to a STRAW POLL. The results do not count. They have the same "worth" as a PPH poll on whether Mainers prefer whoopie pies or blueberry for the official state dessert.

--> The real vote, the one that counts, will be held at the GOP Convention on May 5th and 6th, in Augusta.

Instead of wasting time on stupid conspiracy theories, Paul supporters would be better served in moving forward, dropping the petty squabbling, and getting their people to the convention.

[url=http://www.pressherald.com/news/Republicans-gathering-in-Portland-to-vot... page[/url]

CaJo
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what the MGOP and Charlie has

what the MGOP and Charlie has done here is unforgivable. I am a resident of downeast Maine and our caucus for 10 towns in Hancock County isn't even scheduled until next week, and the entire County of Washington, except one town, Pembroke, hasn't even caucused yet.
With a margin of a couple hundred votes no results should have been called, knowing the caucus situation, and the MGOP Leadership was well aware of the situation...

Bob S
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I am hoping so mainemom. It

I am hoping so mainemom. It looks like a lot of RP supporters became delegates.

Vic Berardelli
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I do not get WGAN up here but

I do not get WGAN up here but a friend who was in the Portland-area said about an hour of John MacDonald's program this morning discussed the flap over the arbitrary deadline for the preference poll and the uncounted counties and towns.

CaJo
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please be aware that over ten

please be aware that over ten towns in Hancock County, had their caucuses scheduled for Feb18th, including my entire district. For the record i think it is heavy Paul supporters but that is not the point...we were not even going to have a chance in the say of who is the favorite in the straw poll announcement, along with other locations such as Washington County and other locations who have not caucused yet either...it is shameful to say the least what the GOP and Webster has don imo...

Dan Billings
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It has been known since the

It has been known since the fall that the straw poll would end on February 11th. Towns were encouraged to caucus before that date. The decision on a date to caucus is a local one.

Naran
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Dan - it sounds to me as if

Dan - it sounds to me as if people who feel disenfranchised should be directing their questions and displeasure toward their local committee chairs, who should have known the straw process was ending on Feb. 11th.

Bob S
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It has been known since the

It has been known since the fall that the straw poll would end on February 11th.

I didn't know.

Also another thing that annoyed me, was when Auburn caucus elected their delegates and informed them it would cost 25 dollars, several Ron Paul supporters didn't have check books. They had debit cards and cash. They wanted to pay cash but the Auburn chair kept saying No. No cash. Finally they accepted cash. Auburns chair seemed irritated with Paul supporters fron the beginning.

Vic Berardelli
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Dan, As I am a brand new

Dan,

As I am a brand new member of the State Committee, so I do not know the answer. You say it was known since last fall that the poll would close on Feb. 11. May I ask if each town chair was notified individually by the state party office last fall? Or, was it simply announced at a State Committee meeting and the committee members were supposed to notify their towns and counties? Ifd that is so, then some didn't do their jobs because I received a few phone calls this morning complaining that their caucus date was scheduled before they ever learned of the straw poll deadline.

Pat Riot
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quoting Politico,

[quote="quoting Politico, LarrryinAugusta"]In particular, a senior Paul aide had suggested that the Romney campaign was involved in the cancellation of Washington County’s caucuses, a small county where Paul’s campaign had expected to do well. ‘It’s not completely insidious, but they knew we were going to swamp it up there,’ said Paul campaign chairman Jesse Benton.[/quote]

Laugh out freaking loud! Poor Ron Paul can’t win anything anywhere because IT’S ALL A CONSPIRACY, damn it!

J Fred
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One cannot blame Charlie

One cannot blame Charlie Webster and the Maine GOP, assuming that they put the word out that the straw poll was going to end yesterday. At that point it's up to the town chairs to git 'er dun.

I was very pleased with the turnout in Biddeford. Mark Worrell and Al Coulombe had the caucus running as smoothly as possible and the turnout was amazing. We're talking GOP. Biddeford. Wow!

Thanks to all who organized and participated! It's good to hear so many people talking about smaller government. Perhaps a majority is finally ready to turn the tide.

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I cast my ballot for Ron Paul

I cast my ballot for Ron Paul and am content with a "virtual tie." The idea that a 100-vote or 200-vote victory would make a significant difference seems silly to me. Charlie Webster's aim was to generate interest and press coverage. Sure, he favors Romney since he believes that will help him retain the legislative majority, but the virtual tie promoted his primary objective. A runaway Romney victory would have generated far less attention. As it is Paul's showing has attracted a lot of attention, even with the UK's Daily Mail. And the result is likely to generate additional attention to the convention in May.

Bob S
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Poor Ron Paul can’t win

Poor Ron Paul can’t win anything anywhere

Pat Riot, you are a riot. That said, Ron Paul won Androscoggin County by quite a margin. Santorum 2nd, with Romney trailing 3rd. As a newbie to this, I just kept quite and observed. I will tell you that the Paul supporters were well dressed, clean, and from all age groups. There was no shortage of young proffesionals who supported Paul. Almost all of the negativity was aimed directly at Pauls supporters.

It was quite obvious that the old guard is angry because they read the writing on the wall. They are losing control.

LarryinAugusta
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It seems that Kenebec County

It seems that Kenebec County result numbers are wrong? I wonder if any other counry numbers are wrong. This does not look good. Paul lost 14 votes here because someone made a mistake. This is why people have trust issues. Now how close is it? We know know for a fact after looking at one county that the margin of error is high enough that Charlie should have called it a tie. Lets see a new press release.

Using the know error rate in KC as a state rate Paul would have won.

Wrong GOP Totals 118 143 62 21 0 346
Right Kennebec County Totals 123 164 62 24 8 381
Missing Totals 5 19 0 3 8 35

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