This Saturday December 3rd there will be a meeting of Ron Paul supporters at the Bangor Public Library at 1pm. This meeting is being put on by the Ron Paul 2012 campaign. All supports of Ron Paul in the greater Bangor area are encouraged to attended. For more info you can contact David Boyer at David@RonPaul2012.com
The Gingrich hit piece is reviewed here. The headline calls it negative. I don't see it that way. But for the cameo commentator appearances, it's Newt in his own words. The balance of the article is pretty fair and quite complimentary.
Roll on, Ron Paul, roll on!
Howie Carr played it in its entirety yesterday. He appeared to really like it, which was surprising. Maybe there's still hope for Carr after all (wink).
The Ron Paul 2012 campaign released this statement regarding the selection of Donald Trump to be the moderator for the Republican debate to be held in Iowa on December 27:
“The Ron Paul 2012 Presidential Campaign Committee rejects the selection of Donald Trump as moderator for the Republican presidential debate to be held on December 27th
“We have conferred with our Iowa campaign chairman Drew Ivers and vice-chairmen David Fischer and A.J. Spiker who are all RPI State Central Committee Members, and they concur with this decision.
“The selection of a reality television personality to host a presidential debate that voters nationwide will be watching is beneath the office of the Presidency and flies in the face of that office’s history and dignity. Mr. Trump’s participation as moderator will distract from questions and answers concerning important issues such as the national economy, crushing federal government debt, the role of the federal government, foreign policy, and the like. To be sure, Mr. Trump’s participation will contribute to an unwanted circus-like atmosphere.
“Mr. Trump’s selection is also wildly inappropriate because of his record of toying with the serious decision of whether to compete for our nation’s highest office, a decision he appeared to make frivolously. The short-lived elevation of Mr. Trump’s stature as a candidate put him on the radar of many organizations and we recall that last spring he was invited to keynote the Republican Party of Iowa’s annual Reagan Dinner, yet at the last minute he left RPI holding the bag by canceling. In turn, RPI canceled its biggest fundraising gala of the year and suffered embarrassment and in addition RPI was required to engage in refunding measures. Our candidate will not even consider participating in the late-December debate until Mr. Trump publicly apologizes to Iowa party leaders and rectifies in full the situation.
“Therefore our candidate Ron Paul, the champion of the Constitution, has advised he will not attend.”
I disagree with that reaction for three reasons: 1. I like to see RP educating the other candidates. 2. It's Iowa. Being absent from that debate could give the wrong impression to some of the indigenous electorate. 3. It's legitimate fodder for the candidates who do choose to attend.
But . . I trust the man's judgement and that he will make good use of the time. So, we'll see how it goes.
#150 Post LOL... Check out use of term "spooning:" http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/12/03/newt-gingrichs-wisdom/
If we are looking for someone who is a 'natural born citizen' and patriot, abides by his three oaths, believes the federal government must abide by the limitations of the Constitution, and who has not changed his position on important subjects in his whole career, Ron Paul is our guy. Having said that, none of these subjects ever come up in these debates run by the media. The solution to that problem is to have some organization like the Heritage Institute or the Cato Institute run the debates. Keep the progressive media as far away from the debates as possible. For reasons mentioned by others, Trump should not be the host either.
Sadly I don't expect Ron Paul will get the republican nomination simply because he is not part of the repub power elite, and because he is not controllable by them. They will never support anyone they cannot hold control over. The republican branch of the progressive tree is as bad as the democrat branch of the progressive tree.
The latest national polling I saw had Dr Paul at 14%. It will be interesting to see the next polling to see where the balance of Cain supporters will go. There is no mistaking that Dr Paul is among the top three and his domestic policies appeal to many. He will likely win Iowa, or at worst finish second. I think many more people would support him if his foreign policy agenda was just a little more realistic given the threats we face in the present world situation.
If congress wants to declare war on another nation, I'd suspect that Dr Paul would not veto same, as if he could, on the other hand if the UN and Nato decided that it was time to take out whoever by executive order by the big boys, than Paul would abstain.
There is no need for a monarch as we have presently residing in the white house, it is about time for Congress to live up to their obligations as defined by the document that they swear to, rather than pile everything onto an executive branch decision, which the candyasses in congress are so well inclined to do. .
"...Anyways, good for Paul and Huntsman to turn this down. This GOP race is already too much like reality television this election cycle. We hardly need to bring actual reality television into the mix. If you strip away the ideology what we really want out of a president is a strong leader. Refusing to join the circus, like refusing to endorse torture, speaks to the character of both Paul and Huntsman. Integrity is a rare quality in a politician, but an important one..."
Headline: Herman Cain Supporters Flock to Ron Paul
HermanCainForums.com founder endorses Paul, urges 18K+ members to follow suit, notes Revolution PAC.
"Congressman Paul is continuously drawing new support based on the unparalleled strength and consistency of his message," explains Revolution PAC Chair Gary Franchi. "We welcome all former Herman Cain supporters to the Ron Paul Revolution!"
"Culling the crosstabs . . "
Time magazine is aware of Ron Pauls candidacy!
That "flock" article is quite a bit of campaign rhetoric, just because you build it, doesn't mean anyone will come. Paul has a steady core base and that base will continue to grow, but there isn't going to be any Flocking at this point. Paul is in it for the long haul and it will be a long slog through the primaries. The powers that be will offer anyone up as an alternative to Paul. The corporate media and the royal court of special interest talking heads will do their best to retain their power and special status, that being the continual mining of American wealth, military power, taxes and easy money to the detriment of us.
It is up to the American people to see through the smokescreen. The special interests are perfectly happy to have another 4 years of Obama, he has proven himself to be a corporate stooge, they want another corporate stooge to run against Obama, hedging their bets as they always do.
Speaking of corporate stooges and the self-important Royal Court we have The Donald, now if there ever was a man that could play with easy credit and special interests, it is The Donald.
I fully expect that we will have a two party election similar to 2008. One corporate stooge vs the other corporate stooge, I'll hope for a real choice.
Anti-Government Paul Reaps Biggest GOP Haul From Federal WorkersRon Paul, the presidential candidate who says he’ll shrink government the most, is attracting more campaign cash than any of his Republican rivals from two unlikely sources: U.S. government workers and employees of the biggest federal contractors...Paul...who has said he’ll cut $1 trillion in his first year in office, leads in donations from federal employees, with $95,085...more than four times the $23,000 federal employees gave to Mitt Romney, according to Federal Election Commission...
Support from the sausage-makers!
“Liberals, it has been said, are generous with other peoples' money, except when it comes to questions of national survival when they prefer to be generous with other people's freedom and security.” William F. Buckley, Jr
The Ron Paul Factor
Organization and principle could yield a Paul victory in the Iowa caucuses.
“Ron Paul is definitely for real out here,” says Tim Albrecht, the communications director for Iowa governor Terry Branstad, who has not endorsed any GOP candidate. “He is going to get 18 percent in the caucuses no matter what. If there’s a snowstorm, he’ll probably win, since he has such dedicated, passionate supporters. The question is whether he can move higher than that.”
Comment from Patrick J:
"What I always think is amusing (and telling) is the number of Paul critics who compare him to 'the crazy old uncle you keep locked up in the attic.' Not having such a relative myself, the prevalance of this idea around the net has led me toward the belief that Paul's critics disproportionately have a history of grave mental illness in their families."
If anyone would know the waste in government it is the federal workers who see it everyday. The same with the military, who see the same waste, this explains why Paul has support from these people.
The DAILY CALLER
In Iowa, Paul closes to within one point of front-runner Gingrich
"The poll, conducted by Public Policy Polling, found weakening support for Gingrich among self-identified tea partiers, and a dramatic rise in Paul’s favorability rating."
"Political commentators have predicted that Ron Paul can win in Iowa because of his supporters’ unusual dedication and enthusiasm."
That and the widely held understanding that he's right, maybe?
[size=13]Glenn Beck says Ron Paul is preferable to Newt Gingrich[/size]
Unexpurgated Ron Paul . . 15 minutes with Alex Jones
Ron Paul weighs in on 5 or 6 active AMG topics, including Holder, 2nd Amendment and F + F, Defense Authorization Bill, The Grinch, Obama Agenda, etc . .
15 minutes well spent, IMHO.
There is a reason that the Romneycare guy can't break through 25% and it isn't just Romneycare.
"These guns [sic, any 223/308/7.62x39 semi-auto rifle with full capacity mags] are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people."
Former Massachusetts (the birthplace of Liberty) Governor, Mitt Romney, 2004.
That clown has no regard for human rights or our Constitution.
I heard this earlier today on an Atlanta area radio program . . "Ever hear the saying ' between you, me and the lamp post'? Mitt's the lamp post!"
This has all the ear marks of a Ross Perot II that will hand the WH back to the Obmessiah.
Ross "that giant sucking sound" Perot
There's probably a book out there somewhere that details where the Perot campaign went wrong. I don't have sufficient interest to pursue it. If the wiki bio is accurate, Perot was a very popular contender and it was his lack of political expertise that did him in. It doesn't look like he spoiled either election for anyone but himself.
That said, wvr, you seem to be of the opinion that Paul has no shot at the R nomination and will be relegated to a 3rd party run. Considering what the Paul campaign has accomplished thus far despite the dismissive treatment it has received from the media, including the so called conservative branch, I'd say you're mistaken. Take a look at the back handed headlines popping up. The media stooges, like Wolf Blitzer for instance, are beginning to hedge their access by suggesting that "Holy Cow! Ron Paul could win Iowa!" He's eating the crap they've all been trying to feed you.
What happens when Paul wins the nomination? Will you support him?
On Faux last night, so-called Architect Carl Rove spouted about Paul and Santorum being likely to "over perform" in Iowa. Repeatedly. As in, if either comes in at #1 it will be "overperforming." It's only winning if Romgrich comes out on top.
Embarrasing. Really. Anyone else caught it?
I could care less about what Wolfe Blitzer has to say on anything. I've followed Ron Paul on and off for several decades. I first came to know about him watching Firing Line with W.F. Buckey and thought at the time that Ron Paul was a kook and nothing I've seen has altered that opinion. I'm more than willing to give people a chance to grow and change, but I've not seen that in Ron Paul. He's the perennial Libertian kook candidate who we hear from every 2 to 4 years. With The Obmessiah in the WH, ANYTHING looks good at this point, but Paul would be a mistake. He'll go down worse than John McCain and I DON'T want to see that happen. Your question about if Paul wins the nomination. I don't believe he will because, aside from the Brown Shirts (another similarity to Ross Perot), there's little support for him out there. Paul's Supporters are very effective at ginning up support and inflating straw polls, but Paul is not a Conservative Republican. He's just managed to hook himself on to the Republican party because his true Libertian Party doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell.
Well put WV_Republican...I was listening to Hannity the other night in the car at work having dinner and Hannity said that Raynd Paul's office had called asking to come on to break "some really important news"....So after hyping it a bit Hannity made room for his call...When he got him on the phone the "important breaking news" was that he was supporting his father and proceeded to trash Newt...Shawn cut him off and told him that was sneaky and underhanded..After the call he asked his producer on the air who took the call if the staffer had said what the news was and she said no and was told that it was to important to talk about till Raynd himself got on the air which as she said was an outright lie...Typical of of Paul supporters I guess...I thought Raynd was better than that...
"...He's the perennial Libertian kook candidate..."
"...but Paul is not a Conservative Republican..."
You are against all things Libertarian, period. Do note LP is pro-choice, which RP is not. And as RP will uphold Constitution if he is not conservative in your book, who is? What exact type of conservative are you?
A W.F. Buckley/Ronald Reagan Conservative. Not and "anything goes" Libertarian.
Ron Paul on the issues: http://www.issues2000.org/Ron_Paul.htm
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