Don't these people have jobs?
Yes, they comprise the core of MSEA and inhabit the State Office Building.
To those of us employees who had occasion to go there it was frightening to say the least.
If there is cause to fear anything ,it is this group in S.O.B cafeteria on break.
At times one wished for a garlic neckless or firearm!
Perhaps you should have had a few fifties to throw on the floor to distract them while doing your business.
IT'S NOT COMPLICATED AT ALL!
“It’s a complicated issue, and most people don’t understand the full dynamics,” Ramona Welton said.
People who don't want to belong to your union.....don't want to belong to your union.
Moreover, fact that they recently hired Eric Noyes from SEIU HQ is both good and bad.
Good in that at least he has seen a labor union.
Bad in that he is from SEIU HQ.
Which means he is highly unlikely to ever propose dumping MSEA's affiliation with SEIU HQ.
Better to chuck hardworking MSEA employees off the working class boat than give up that annual tribute.
And this is the dynamic they don't want MSEA members to understand.
Which is why intriguing minds need to ask why that is because what's in it for them?
Because no one else (except SEIU HQ) is getting anything out of that annual payment.
Actually it is like a individual hiring a hooker (SEIU) who runs out of room while customer (member) has their pants down .
That's a whole lot of pants down!
That's one hell of a hooker !!
Dear Ramona Welton,
Here's a very informative news article for you to read and ponder over for a few days...
Have a great day,
You are of course assuming not only reading ability ,but comprehension also.
The members finally comprehended what had been done to them by Ramona and friends.
The "look of the union label" music has now been rewritten played as a funeral dirge !
Instead of throwing some dirt on coffin it will be purple t- shirts and empty pizza boxes.
That's a good point, Bruce, and I wonder if they were busy preparing for the funeral today?
When I went by that union/PAC office at about 12noon today (Saturday), there were several cars in the parking lot and their conference room was all lit up... but their online calendar at https://www.mseaseiu.org/index.php/calendar-of-events/action~oneday/exac... doesn't have anything listed.
What are the chances the SEIU political machine was running yet again on a Saturday?
What are the chances some purely political expenses were incurred today?
What are the chances some political expenses will be filed under non-political accounting codes for today's activities?
HEY RAMONA, IT'S TIME FOR YOUR LITTLE FAR-LEFT UNION/PAC TO GO THROUGH A PROCEDURAL AUDIT.
THE MEMBERS & FEE PAYERS ALL DESERVE BETTER!
Image source: http://blog.vantagepoint.vgm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/4-Audit-Aler...
BTW, Ramona, do you remember this little photo opportunity?
Well, in case you don't already know this, we've been watching your little union/PAC as well! :-)
I’d answer that laws that give employees a choice about representation actually help unions organize and represent workers. As even some union activists have argued in the face of Janus, the compulsory situation has caused the union leadership to become complacent. Because they don’t need to win over the support of employees, they don’t need to listen to the needs of their members.
I could not have said this better myself.
Imagine if McDonalds could have the government force you to buy their hamburgers!
Or if the law firm of Dewey, Cheatem & Howe could force you to hire them!
Or if any Church could force you to attend their services on Sunday!
Eeeeuuuuuu, no thank you!
So why are labor unions so special?
Why can they legally leverage the government to force people to buy their services?
And forget about this "Free Rider" argument by labor unions because it's a straw man.
Since all labor unions have the right to just negotiate contracts for only their dues paying members.
No different than insurance companies. You want their coverage then pay for it yourself.
But don't go forcing others who don't want your business to have to buy it anyway.
Thank you, Sonny, as that was very well said with some great examples! I sincerely believe the Janus case has the potential to help true labor unions while lousy organizations like SEIU will hopefully be dealt a major blow IF the Justices rule in favor of us workers. I'd love to be there on February 26th to hear the case...
Image source: https://www.freedomfoundation.com/litigation/janus-v-afscme/
Looks like a step in the right direction, the DNC, and other democrats who depend on those dues to fund their campaigns are not happy
FROM MSEA’S “WHAT WE DO” WEBSITE:
Affiliation with SEIU
In 1989, members of our union voted to affiliate with the Service Employees International Union, a 2-million member union representing workers all across our nation and throughout North America. SEIU members work in health care, public services and property services. Together, we all set the highest standard for quality services in Maine and across the nation. We accomplish this by making our voice heard on the important services we consistently deliver to Maine people, and by making our voice heard on issues affecting us.We work with Maine’s elected leaders and national leaders to help foster a commitment to the high level of quality services Maine people deserve.
Now see if you can find the quantifiable quid-pro-quo in all that verbiage!
You know like my $1,000.00 for your used car.
You can see the trade off in that transaction straight away, i.e. my money for your car.
But all you see in this transaction between MSEA and SEIU is our money for their nothing.
What we do ?
Answer in 1991 "we" cut a deal with gov. and layoffs happened.
That is part of risk working in public sector.
A 19 year 10 month career was a shortened.
Devastating for sure.
I went back started all over again to protect my Cadilcac retirement benefits.
SEIU/MSEA was very supportive !
When I called office they could not tell me anything except they couldn't even find my name on membership list
nor status of grievance supposedly filed.
What they do is screw members. I took a great deal pleasure knowing every time I posted on this thread Rat Rod Hiltz went nuts.
Because I had inside information . He even called MSEA stewarts at work to see who was feeding me info.. Not them assess.
They didn't want lose their pizza and time off from work fro meetings.
HALF A MILLION A YEAR OR MORE! FOR WHAT EXACTLY?
TOP TEN BEST PAID UNION PRESIDENTS OF 2017
153 union presidents made more than the typical CEO ($194,350) in gross salary.
You can see the top-10 salary earners here:
UNION CORRUPTION STORIES FOR JANUARY 2018:
The first month of 2018 is coming to an end, and it was an embarrassing one for Big Labor. The Labor Department chronicled numerous union corruption stories in January. Read them all below:
NO WONDER SEIU AND OTHER UNIONS FIGHT EMPLOYEE RIGHTS!
BECAUSE WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MINDS WOULD FREELY CHOOSE THEM?
THAT'S WHY THEY FIGHT TO KEEP THEIR "BERLIN WALL" LAWS ON DECERTIFICATION.
600,000 + VIEWS!!!
I can't believe it myself.
Clearly there is a dearth of information out there.
So people (and no doubt MSEA members) are coming here to get it.
Kind of like Eastern Europeans before the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989.
They know Pravda ain't the truth so they tune into the BBC or Radio Free Europe.
Freedom finds a way.
Always has, always will.
PAC versus True Labor Union
Since the so-called union known as SEIU (with very deep Maine roots) has so proudly and publically self-defined themselves as a political organization for many years, we can only hope Monday's SCOTUS hearing in the Janus vs. AFSCME case will go well for us workers and our families. The decision due out by summer will impact millions of US workers one way or the other...
The WSJ has a good article about the case at https://www.wsj.com/articles/public-unions-vs-the-first-amendment-151934...
In addition, you'll see how nervous the socialist puppet masters are about it at https://socialistworker.org/2018/02/23/what-will-it-take-for-unions-to-s...
It's now Monday, February 26, 2018, and The Day is finally here...
Day of reckoning for public unions coming?
Read the article at http://www.thereporter.com/general-news/20180122/day-of-reckoning-for-pu...
The decision for this important SCOTUS case will be delivered by summer, and it will surely impact millions of public servants dealing with Forced Unionism all over our USA in one way or the other.
It will also affect the DNC and I hope the employees win
This SCOTUS case has certainly received a wide variety of media coverage, but now all we can do is wait for the final decision by the Justices which is due by summer.
The Public-Sector Union ‘Stranglehold’ On Workers’ Paychecks Is On The Verge Of Collapse
6 Key Exchanges From Major Union Case at the Supreme Court
When you can spare about one hour,
listen to the 2/26/18 Oral Arguments from this super important SCOTUS case
The final decision by our Justices should be announced this summer.
“Liberals say conservatives are trying to use the court to break the power of public-sector unions. But if the only way they can maintain their political power is through coercion, then they don’t deserve that power in the first place. The reason so many workers quit (belonging to unions) when given the chance is because they know the unions use their power not to benefit workers but to enrich themselves.” ---Marc Thiseen, The Washington Post
Does anybody really still believe that Labor Union Leaders are pro-worker?
Labor Union Leaders are pro-union, not pro-worker, hence their high salaries.
Just like any Corporate CEO is pro-corporation but generally not pro-shareholder.
Hence all those DFR (duty to fair representation) complaints by union members versus their unions.
Which are very similar to shareholder derivative lawsuits against their corrupt corporate CEO’s.
Labor Unions should have no more right to mandatory dues than corporations have to investments.
And by completely deregulating labor unions BEYOND TAFT HARTLEY, we’ll have a free market.
Whereby consumers of labor relations services will be FREE TO CHOOSE their own providers.
Whenever and wherever they want to.
This will open up the marketplace to more business actors and investors.
And from that competition there will be greater efficiencies achieved for producer and consumer.
Better deals and better service or else they’re out of business like any lousy business.
Such as Pan Am and TWA giving way to Jet Blue and Southwest among many others.
The only regulation if any should be outlawing “no raiding agreements” by labor unions.
That is where labor unions collude with each other not to compete with each other.
Forget that! Make them work for it! Make them compete!
This is the USA, not the USSR!
Thanks for sharing that great post, Sonny, as you've certainly made lots of great factual points in it... it will be very interesting to see how the Justices rule on the Janus case. To say it will be an historic case no matter which way they rule is certainly an understatement... this case will be HUGE one way or the other.
BTW, Sonny, I hope this finds you're doing well.
RE: Janus vs. AFSCME
"Can a private organization force someone to pay them to speak on his or her behalf? That’s the question before the U.S. Supreme Court as it hears oral arguments in Janus v. AFSCME on Monday, February 26. The case may well mean the end of mandatory dues under agency shop agreements, the major source of funds for public employee unions, including the teachers’ unions which have a stranglehold on the nation’s public schools. This week’s guest on Reality Check with Jeanne Allen is Mark Mix, President of the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation, which represents Mark Janus, the plaintiff in the case. Learn all about one of the most important Supreme Court cases of the year on this edition of Reality Check."
HEAR THIS INTERVIEW --> "Episode 10: Mark Mix"
posted at https://www.nationalreview.com/podcasts/reality-check-with-jeanne-allen/...
You're welcome and I am doing well thanks for asking!
Hope you are too.
If workers end up being able to opt out of union dues, will they then negotiate their own individual contracts with the employer?
No at least in State Employment here, the unions are still the designated bargaining parties recognized to represent the employees.
It is hope this will redirect them to servicing the employees. Doing things like settle the hundreds of pending grievamces filed by members.
So why should someone who doesn’t pay dues benefit from the bargaining? You can’t have your cake and eat it, too. If someone wants to opt out, they should be able to go for it. But that means they should have to negotiate their own pay, etc. Right? Why should the union give them services for free? Or why should other union members foot the bill?
That's not what the union does anyway. It spends much of its time supporting the DNC and lining its own pockets. Send me a bill for the time actually spent working for the workers - then we'll talk. The rest of you who agree with their politics and wish to provide their comfortable life are free to continue...