UPDATE: Maine SEIU & their Forced Unionism on state workers and countless others

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Ugenetoo
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Don't these people have jobs?

Don't these people have jobs?

Bruce Libby
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Yes, they comprise the core

Yes, they comprise the core of MSEA and inhabit the State Office Building.
To those of us employees who had occasion to go there it was frightening to say the least.
If there is cause to fear anything ,it is this group in S.O.B cafeteria on break.
At times one wished for a garlic neckless or firearm!

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Perhaps you should have had a

Perhaps you should have had a few fifties to throw on the floor to distract them while doing your business.

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IT'S NOT COMPLICATED AT ALL!

IT'S NOT COMPLICATED AT ALL!

“It’s a complicated issue, and most people don’t understand the full dynamics,” Ramona Welton said.

People who don't want to belong to your union.....don't want to belong to your union.

Moreover, fact that they recently hired Eric Noyes from SEIU HQ is both good and bad.

Good in that at least he has seen a labor union.

Bad in that he is from SEIU HQ.

Which means he is highly unlikely to ever propose dumping MSEA's affiliation with SEIU HQ.

Better to chuck hardworking MSEA employees off the working class boat than give up that annual tribute.

And this is the dynamic they don't want MSEA members to understand.

Which is why intriguing minds need to ask why that is because what's in it for them?

Because no one else (except SEIU HQ) is getting anything out of that annual payment.

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Actually it is like a

Actually it is like a individual hiring a hooker (SEIU) who runs out of room while customer (member) has their pants down .

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That's a whole lot of pants

That's a whole lot of pants down!

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That's one hell of a hooker !

That's one hell of a hooker !!

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Dear Ramona Welton,

Dear Ramona Welton,

Here's a very informative news article for you to read and ponder over for a few days...
http://www.rstreet.org/op-ed/janus-case-friends-of-the-court-offer-weak-...

Have a great day,
MF :-)

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MF

MF
You are of course assuming not only reading ability ,but comprehension also.

The members finally comprehended what had been done to them by Ramona and friends.

The "look of the union label" music has now been rewritten played as a funeral dirge !
Instead of throwing some dirt on coffin it will be purple t- shirts and empty pizza boxes.

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That's a good point, Bruce,

That's a good point, Bruce, and I wonder if they were busy preparing for the funeral today?

When I went by that union/PAC office at about 12noon today (Saturday), there were several cars in the parking lot and their conference room was all lit up... but their online calendar at https://www.mseaseiu.org/index.php/calendar-of-events/action~oneday/exac... doesn't have anything listed.

What are the chances the SEIU political machine was running yet again on a Saturday?

What are the chances some purely political expenses were incurred today?

What are the chances some political expenses will be filed under non-political accounting codes for today's activities?

HEY RAMONA, IT'S TIME FOR YOUR LITTLE FAR-LEFT UNION/PAC TO GO THROUGH A PROCEDURAL AUDIT.
THE MEMBERS & FEE PAYERS ALL DESERVE BETTER!


Image source: http://blog.vantagepoint.vgm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/4-Audit-Aler...

BTW, Ramona, do you remember this little photo opportunity?
https://www.facebook.com/MSEASEIU1989/photos/a.218735091473991.66666.149...

Well, in case you don't already know this, we've been watching your little union/PAC as well! :-)

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BADABINGBADABOOM!

BADABINGBADABOOM!

I’d answer that laws that give employees a choice about representation actually help unions organize and represent workers. As even some union activists have argued in the face of Janus, the compulsory situation has caused the union leadership to become complacent. Because they don’t need to win over the support of employees, they don’t need to listen to the needs of their members.

http://www.rstreet.org/op-ed/janus-case-friends-of-the-court-offer-weak-...

I could not have said this better myself.

Imagine if McDonalds could have the government force you to buy their hamburgers!

Or if the law firm of Dewey, Cheatem & Howe could force you to hire them!

Or if any Church could force you to attend their services on Sunday!

Eeeeuuuuuu, no thank you!

So why are labor unions so special?

Why can they legally leverage the government to force people to buy their services?

And forget about this "Free Rider" argument by labor unions because it's a straw man.

Since all labor unions have the right to just negotiate contracts for only their dues paying members.

No different than insurance companies. You want their coverage then pay for it yourself.

But don't go forcing others who don't want your business to have to buy it anyway.

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Thank you, Sonny, as that was

Thank you, Sonny, as that was very well said with some great examples! I sincerely believe the Janus case has the potential to help true labor unions while lousy organizations like SEIU will hopefully be dealt a major blow IF the Justices rule in favor of us workers. I'd love to be there on February 26th to hear the case...


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Looks like a step in the

Looks like a step in the right direction, the DNC, and other democrats who depend on those dues to fund their campaigns are not happy

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FROM MSEA’S “WHAT WE DO”

FROM MSEA’S “WHAT WE DO” WEBSITE:

Affiliation with SEIU

In 1989, members of our union voted to affiliate with the Service Employees International Union, a 2-million member union representing workers all across our nation and throughout North America. SEIU members work in health care, public services and property services. Together, we all set the highest standard for quality services in Maine and across the nation. We accomplish this by making our voice heard on the important services we consistently deliver to Maine people, and by making our voice heard on issues affecting us.We work with Maine’s elected leaders and national leaders to help foster a commitment to the high level of quality services Maine people deserve.

https://www.mseaseiu.org/index.php/what-we-do/

Now see if you can find the quantifiable quid-pro-quo in all that verbiage!

You know like my $1,000.00 for your used car.

You can see the trade off in that transaction straight away, i.e. my money for your car.

But all you see in this transaction between MSEA and SEIU is our money for their nothing.

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What we do ?

What we do ?
Answer in 1991 "we" cut a deal with gov. and layoffs happened.
That is part of risk working in public sector.
A 19 year 10 month career was a shortened.
Devastating for sure.

I went back started all over again to protect my Cadilcac retirement benefits.

SEIU/MSEA was very supportive !

When I called office they could not tell me anything except they couldn't even find my name on membership list
nor status of grievance supposedly filed.

What they do is screw members. I took a great deal pleasure knowing every time I posted on this thread Rat Rod Hiltz went nuts.
Because I had inside information . He even called MSEA stewarts at work to see who was feeding me info.. Not them assess.
They didn't want lose their pizza and time off from work fro meetings.

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HALF A MILLION A YEAR OR MORE

HALF A MILLION A YEAR OR MORE! FOR WHAT EXACTLY?

TOP TEN BEST PAID UNION PRESIDENTS OF 2017

153 union presidents made more than the typical CEO ($194,350) in gross salary. You can see the top-10 salary earners here:

http://laborpains.org/2017/05/17/union-president-pay-watch-2017/

UNION CORRUPTION STORIES FOR JANUARY 2018:

The first month of 2018 is coming to an end, and it was an embarrassing one for Big Labor. The Labor Department chronicled numerous union corruption stories in January. Read them all below:

http://laborpains.org/

NO WONDER SEIU AND OTHER UNIONS FIGHT EMPLOYEE RIGHTS!

http://www.seiuexposed.com/

BECAUSE WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MINDS WOULD FREELY CHOOSE THEM?

THAT'S WHY THEY FIGHT TO KEEP THEIR "BERLIN WALL" LAWS ON DECERTIFICATION.

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600,000 + VIEWS!!!

600,000 + VIEWS!!!

I can't believe it myself.

Clearly there is a dearth of information out there.

So people (and no doubt MSEA members) are coming here to get it.

Kind of like Eastern Europeans before the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989.

They know Pravda ain't the truth so they tune into the BBC or Radio Free Europe.

Freedom finds a way.

Always has, always will.

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PAC versus True Labor Union

PAC versus True Labor Union


Source: https://www.facebook.com/SEIU

Since the so-called union known as SEIU (with very deep Maine roots) has so proudly and publically self-defined themselves as a political organization for many years, we can only hope Monday's SCOTUS hearing in the Janus vs. AFSCME case will go well for us workers and our families. The decision due out by summer will impact millions of US workers one way or the other...

The WSJ has a good article about the case at https://www.wsj.com/articles/public-unions-vs-the-first-amendment-151934...

In addition, you'll see how nervous the socialist puppet masters are about it at https://socialistworker.org/2018/02/23/what-will-it-take-for-unions-to-s...

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