Is President Obama a Marxist?

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Jim Corr
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Is President Obama a Marxist?

Barack Obama Lauded by Marxists
March 16, 2008 08:57 AM EST

The Soviet Union collapsed, but Marxists did not disappear. For example, the Castro brothers still run Cuba, Daniel Ortega is back in charge of Nicaragua and African Marxists are vying for power in their homelands.

Unsurprisingly, Marxists from Africa to the Americas are lauding young Barack Obama as their "agent of change."

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/31226.html

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Jim,
Very interesting article.
Couple the current support for Obama mentioned in your article with the history of liberation theology. From what I've researched and mentioned previously, [url=http://www.asmainegoes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=565405&highlight=marxis... in South America in mid-20th century[/url] (also Central America) and has its roots in Marxism and humanism.
Perhaps there is a connection...

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Is Senator Obama a Marxist?

This is the story the Senator fears the most. He doesn't want to deal with this before the election. I'm amazed with all the disscussion of his minister and his church that the marxist connection has not come out, especially when noted marxist Cornel West is associated with discussion.

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His church is...

Posted on Fri, Mar. 21, 2008
Some views at Obama's church are controversial
By MARGARET TALEVMcClatchy Newspapers

WASHINGTON -- Illinois Sen. Barack Obama's speech Tuesday on race in America was hailed as a masterful handling of the controversy over divisive sermons by his longtime pastor at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, the recently retired Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.

Among some of Wright's more provocative doctrines are his claims that Jesus is black; that merging Marxism with the Gospel may show the way to a better tomorrow; and that the white church in America is the Antichrist because it supported slavery and segregation.

http://www.star-telegram.com/667/story/540908.html

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Is Senator Obama a Marxist?

Marxist 'tendencies', for sure.

LMD
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The Marxism connection/influence has been cloaked for over a half-century for myriad reasons.
Marxist ideas influenced Liberation Theology and in turn, BLT.
Frankly there is a Marxist connection to the Social Gospel (research Walter Rauschenbusch), which is really just a Protestant version of Liberation theology.
(The Social Gospel is preached in several denominations and non-denominations to this day.)

If you drew a flowchart of the aforementioned, all would tightly intersect.

It wasn't that long ago, (in the '80s) that the Roman Catholic Church finally distanced itself from Liberation theology primarily because of the Marxist connection - a digression from the topic.

We can see that the UCC embodies the Social Gospel; Wright's TUCC does so through its own Black Liberation Theology. I think the Marxist influence on all these 'designer theologies' comes through in the use of class and racial conflict to fuel their message.

Unfortunately, this results in the Biblical Gospel taking a second place to a man-centered theology.

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Is Senator Obama a Marxist?

If Obama is not a marxist, why will he not wear an American flag pin or why will he not pledge allegiance to the American flag? Obama may not be a marxist, but neither is he a loyal American.

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At the risk of touching the third rail, I'll point out that Martin Luther King, Jr. considered himself a "democratic socialist". (Please note I am not saying "MLK, Jr. was a Marxist". ) Definitely preached the Social Gospel.

He rejected Marxism's atheistic view, yes, but certainly embraced its view against capitalism and a few of its other ideals.
In a sense, he 'preached' a milder form of Black Liberation Theology in a manner (IMO) much less inflammatory than Rev. Wright, Jr. but nonetheless with similar objectives once all the rhetoric is dissected out.

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Tsk, tsk! How naughty of all of you! The correct, sensitive and modern term is "Progressive". Marxist is so passe!

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Is Senator Obama a Marxist?

Have you ever heard Michelle Obama speak? Now there is a bona fide Marxist, who just happens to be knocking down about 320 large for a Chicagoland non-profit hospital!

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Another Marxist Friend of Obama...

Obama’s Ayers

John Podhoretz - 02.22.2008 - 11:30

Ben Smith of Politico discusses the relationship between Barack Obama and American terrorist Bill Ayers, who has become a leftist mainstay in Chicago’s Hyde Park, which Obama represented in the Illinois State Senate before becoming a U.S. Senator. Ayers’s home has evidently become an important political waystation for politicians of a certain sort, and it was there, according to Smith, that Obama’s predecessor introduced him to various neighborhood activist types.

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/jpodhoretz/2640

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[quote]Unfortunately, this results in the Biblical Gospel taking a second place to a man-centered theology.[/quote]

That would be "humanism," as outlined in the Humanist Manifesto, the thinking of the Communist movement adapted to modern thinking and social phenomena.

Marxism isn't limited to those cited; we see plenty of examples locally, as in the recent BDN editorial. Cloak it in moral superiority and send it off as the only solution to fairness and equity, or in precise terms, "social justice" and "economic justice.'

The next time someone mentions either of those terms to you, ask them to define SPECIFICALLY what they mean by them.

Workers of America, unite!

Where is McCarthy when we need him most?

Unfortunately, the R's won't have the stones or the moral fortitude to bring up these very profound philosophical points for fear of being seen as "divisive" and "uncaring."

That's what I called my neighbors when they refused to chip in and pay my property taxes, which I thought was a perfectly reasonable request.

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Can I hear an "amen" for Melvin!
Great post.
Great advice to ask the Wordy Blowhards of the world just what they mean by those two terms. (Actually I think I've done that with one particular member of AMG in the past - and received no response. I digress.)

While we're at it, why not throw Saul Alinsky into the mix of Friends of Hillary and Friends of Obama - they're certainly bosom buddies to one degree. Obama taught Alinsky seminars for years.
Hillary idolized him; wrote about him.

Heck.

They're all out there... :shock:

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We'll hold a "Marxist" Ball in Portland (where else), and we'll invite them all! A big reunion for all those revolutionaries. We'll ask Fidel to MC! What do old Marxists do when they retire? Maybe Cornel West can make it from Jersey! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Most of the "entitlement" components of our federal budget are Marxist.

The founding fathers must be rolling over in their graves.

Eric Low
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Is Senator Obama a Marxist?

All liberals are Marxist to a lesser or greater extent. I wonder about our own Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins sometimes.

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Captured FARC Computers Name Obama..

In early March the Columbian military launched an attack on a FARC leader in Equador killing him. Information obtained from laptop computers has linked Hugo Chavez in providing financial support to FARC. Information obtained also suggests some "US" contact with FARC suggesting Senator Obama will be the next US President and that might work to the benefit of FARC. Once a Marxist, always a Marxist I guess!

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/03/captured-farc-computers-name-b...

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Another Marxist Endorsement!

Nicaraguan President Ortega thinks Obama's run is "revolutionary!" That can't be a good thing!

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/02/14/america/LA-POL-Nicaragua-Orteg...

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Is Barack Obama A Marxist Mole?

AIM Report | March 18, 2008

Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA).

In his biography of Barack Obama, David Mendell writes about Obama’s life as a “secret smoker” and how he “went to great lengths to conceal the habit.” But what about Obama’s secret political life? It turns out that Obama’s childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist.

http://www.aim.org/aim-report/is-barack-obama-a-marxist-mole/

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So what do you get...

when you cross a Marxist with a racist?

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Obama's words as troubling as pastor's

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Posted: March 20, 2008
1:00 am Eastern

© 2008

Barack Obama wants us to believe that he slept through 20 years of angry venom spewed out by his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, from the pulpit of his church. Obama's larger task will be to convince us that he was asleep while writing parts of his first book, "Dreams from My Father."

Now that this media darling is getting a closer look, it is time for thoughtful reporters to ask themselves this question: Why was it necessary for someone in his 40s to have written – not one – but two books on his extremely short life?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59340

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IS BARAK A RACIST?

I am sure that most anyone on the Dem side of any political race in America is certainly a "socialist" or filled with socialist ideas that involve redistribution of wealth. I am not quite so sure whether of not that makes one a Marxist?

What concerns me more than whether or not Obama is a Marxist is the larger looming possibility that he is a racist, maybe the most flagrant since George Wallace ran years ago. Only this time it appears as though it is black on white racism rather than white on black in the traditional way.

Obama has listened to 20 years of vitriol and hatred that has spewed from the evil mouth of Rev Jeremiah Wright. He has tried to politely distance himself from Wright's speech yet has not denounced him in a way that is deserved. No decent American can condone the racist and bigoted tripe that has spewed from this man's pulpit. And Obama is not exception.

Is Barak Obama a racist or is he not?

His willingness to condone Wright's ideas by refusing to totally refute them is telling to me.

And in the process his actions, or lack thereof, are destroying the best chance the Dems have had to win in some time.

As Michael Goodwin puts in when writing in the NY Daily News:

..."You can't be a President if you won't stand up to an anti-American bigot. More to the point, you can't become President by running against the country or having people around you who hate it"...

..."With only 10 contests left, the campaign is turning on Wright's outlandish anti-American statements and Obama's tepid reaction to them. Obama seems flummoxed by the complexities of the racial polarization he promised to heal and the party is being divided in a way that could sink him"....

[url=http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/03/23/2008-03-23_how_obamas_min... RACIST SELF DESTRUCTION?[/url]

Re the Dems "trainwreck" mentioned in this article. All the years of their support of multiculturalism and diversity, way beyond any goals of Martin Luther King, plus the relentless preachings of Rev Jessuh Jackson and Sharpton, put me way beyond the point of having any sympathy.

I despise racial quotas, racial pandering by the well known characters involved, the prescence now of black on white racism in many places, and all of this that is way beyond any of the teachings of Rev King and his followers who worked on a good cause at that moment in time.

The politics of the jackass party have come home to roost finally. It is well deserved.

Like Nero I will fiddle over the ashes of the destruction of their socialist AND racist agenda and love every minute of it.

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Is Senator Obama a Marxist?

Aren't these the words of a true racist?

Obama wrote frankly about how he blamed "white people – some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives."

Saddest part is that for some time I found myself admiring the man. He is a wonderful speaker and became, for some time, a man demonstrating true leadership abilities.

But this side of him makes me sick.

I wonder how many white people who have supported him til now, feel betrayed.

I do not have any concern about the color of ones skin or his ethnicity. I care about his ideas and what kind of a person he is.

I despise those who are driven by racial motives.

This is a sad day, maybe, for all of America.

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WC - He's certainly a "racist" if you apply the definition used broadly against "whites." His belief in Black Liberation Theolgy however doesn't quite see it that way. I believe that many have begun to unravel the truth about this man and will turn away from him. He will continue to be the media darling though and we will never see the truth reported there.

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I've decided to resurrect

I've decided to resurrect this thread from the 2008 campaign. Considering he has been in office for three years we still know little about what drives this President. However, we do have his policies that speak for him. I am convinced that President Obama has been, and always will be a Marxist. I believe the evidence has always been there, but the media will certainly not explore it. I would like us to explore it through research and discussion. In the broader context I would also like to discuss the transformation of the Democratic Party into the Democratic Socialist Party. If you look at what is happening at both the national and state levels within the Democratic Party you see a coordinated attack on capitalism and religion in this country. I don't believe that is happening by accident.

In Lenin's book entitled The State and the Revoultion, he quotes Karl Marx about the transition from Capitalism to Communism. "Between capitalist and communist society lies the period of the revolutionary transformation of the one into the other. Corresponding to this is also a political transition period in which the state can be nothing but the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat." Lenin goes on to state, "to achieve its emancipation, the proletariat must overthrow the bourgeoisie, win political power and establish its revolutionary dictatorship."

In the First Phase of Communist Societ Lenin again refers to Marx, "What we have to deal with here is a communist society, not as it has developed on its own foundation, but, on the contrary, just as it emerges from capitalist society; which is thus in every respect economically, morally, and intellectually, still stamped with the birthmarks of the old society from whose womb it comes." I believe BHO is taking us on a the past towards this first phase. First and foremost you have to wreck the capitalist society by bringing it to its knees. What better way to achieve this than through uncontrolled debt and deficits. You have to increase the welfare burden upon the state so that everyone is reliant upon them for their mere existance. Once you've broken the back of capitalism then you have set the stage for the dictatorship.

Saul Alinsky wrote in Rules for Radicals, ""A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage -- the political paradise of communism." Marx, Lenin, Alinsky, Obama. They all follow the same playbook, therefore we know where they want to take us. It is time we stop hiding the truth from the people. We refer to them as Democrats, Liberals, Progressives, when in fact they are Marxists in pursuit of the Marxist utopian dream. We let them hide in plain sight without attempting to reveal who they really are and what they really want to do to this country and this state.

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BHO on income redistribution.

BHO on income redistribution. In his own words!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKYRxQtRJjc

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Consider BHOs indifference to

Consider BHOs indifference to our ever increasing debt and deficit. Consider his welfare state mentality. Is there a method to his madness? The Cloward-Piven Strategy was published in The Nation in 1966. The strategy was developed by Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, professors at Columbia University in NYC. Piven was married to Cloward. They wrote an article titled “The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty,” advocating increased enrollment in social welfare programs in order to collapse that system and force reforms, leading to a guaranteed annual income. This political strategy has been referred to as the “Cloward-Piven strategy.”

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Outlining his strategy in

Outlining his strategy in organizing, Alinsky writes:

There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoyevsky said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and chance the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution. To bring on this reformation requires that the organizer work inside the system, among not only the middle class but the 40 per cent of American families – more than seventy million people – whose income range from $5,000 to $10,000 a year [in 1971]. They cannot be dismissed by labeling them blue collar or hard hat. They will not continue to be relatively passive and slightly challenging. If we fail to communicate with them, if we don't encourage them to form alliances with us, they will move to the right. Maybe they will anyway, but let's not let it happen by default.

Sound familiar?

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More on the Alinsky - Obama

More on the Alinsky - Obama connection.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMW_48tZ2rM

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I believe that Obama is

I believe that Obama is America's Putin or America's Fidel...or worse.

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The young Harvard Law School

The young Harvard Law School Obama doesn't sound any different than the President Obama of today!

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/at-harvard-obama-dived-into-dive...

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