Senator Susan Collins, Honor Your Word; Two Terms

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Henry Clay wrote:
So now I am lying? It seems as though that anyone who disagrees with Rev Celeste is a liar. Bob, you spoke some very strong anti-Catholic rhetoric. I am not making it up. I don't have time to go back and search for it. I know I wasn't the only person offended by it. In that thread, you angered AMG's Catholic population and did not apologize for the comments you made. I would suspect, I could be wrong, but I suspect that you felt badly for saying them and hope that the Catholics on AMG would forgive you for making derogatory statements about their faith. You said some things you shouldn't have said and so did Susan Collins. The difference being she admits that she said it and that she admits that saying it was a mistake. If her not keeping that pledge is the big deal to you- fine, but compared with the outrageous anti-Catholic nonsense that poured out of your keyboard, I would say it is minor.

Yes, Henry, you are the liar, you have accused me, but shown no proof or basis for it. Come folward with your accustation and proof. Or slither back under your rock.

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TURN MAINE BLUE

Here's a link to Turn Maine Blue where they've chatted up Susan's pledge on term limiting herself.

Peter
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This is such a non issue.
She is a great Senator.

zmogus
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Peter. Many don't share your opinion in either statement. I think she's a ridiculous senator myself. I think she's obsessed with her power and will do anything to stay in front of the cameras.

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Maine people don't share that view in fact her approval rating is always above 70% or so.. I believe real Maine voters will vote her in because of her strong work ethic and the willingness to come up with reasonable solutions to solve the nation's problems..

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zmogus,

I think the average Maine voter believes she is a good Senator.

I think the average Maine conservative does not.

I, for one, believe she has done a good job representing the state of Maine.

I do not believe she has represented conservatives well.

I support her because on the whole, she is good for Maine.

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I ran the subject of her two term pledge as a promo for tomorrow's show.

I have already gotten a little over 200 emails since it ran at 10:05a talking about the topic.

I think it is good to get it out there on the table and I think it is good for Susan to answer it.

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zmogus wrote:
Peter. Many don't share your opinion in either statement. I think she's a ridiculous senator myself. I think she's obsessed with her power and will do anything to stay in front of the cameras.

She had grown as a professional in the last 12 years and with that growth she is allowed to change her perspectives. I think she can accomplish more now than she ever thought possible 6 or 12 years ago. That is why she will be re-elected

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Frankly, I don't agree with her leftist politics. She's adopting the ill-informed Al Gore Climate model and fashioning national policy around it. She's betrayed the troops in Iraq simply to embarrass the President. On the Maine scene, she voted for No Child Left Behind,never ONCE conferring with our state legislators or the Maine Department of Education, when we already had our own meddlesome accountability program, Maine Learning Results, in place.

I think she's a lousy senator.

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I love to watch the right wing of republican party continue to dig the hole deeper. Maine, which voted for Kerry, has a D governor, a D state senate, a D state house, and two D congressmen, has two Republican senators and the right wing of the R party wants to bring one of them down and replace her with a D - beautiful!!! Oh yeah, the idea about running Chandler for senate is a great one. I'm sure he'd do better than 30% this time around - not. :D

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GOP STUDENT... how can she can fashion a reasonable solution to Gore Based Global Warming when the model is based on nonsense?

Collins is stupid to believe in anthropogenic global warming.

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democrat, as a Republican I personally don't care about having a stupid senator whether he or she is a Dem or a Rep.

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I don't get into funny details like global warming, I may disagree with her on that issue..I believe we need to do more to curb it I meet her halfway with that..But does that mean I am not going to vote for her NO..I will happily cast my ballot for Susan Collins to be our US Senator in 2008 as I don't want Tom "Do Nothing" Allen to be elected to the US Senate..

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gopcollegestudent wrote:
I don't get into funny details like global warming, I may disagree with her on that issue..I believe we need to do more to curb it I meet her halfway with that..

The first thing you need to do is READ!! Become informed. It's free. Students study! How can you "meet her halfway" when her position is ludicrous?

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What if I don't believe that her position is ludicrous..

Besides I haven't seen Susan Collins on TV all the time pushing global warming as much I have seen Senator Snowe pushing the issue..

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gopcollegestudent wrote:
I haven't seen Susan Collins on TV all the time pushing global warming as much I have seen Senator Snowe pushing the issue..

You watch TV? Senator Snowe is stupid too, when it comes to global warming. What can I say? If you think that mankind is causing global warming by driving cars and heating our homes with petroleum products and if you want to punish yourself with CARBON TAXES for driving to work and sitting in a warmed house (while watching TV), then Collins and Snowe are your "guys/gals" !

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democrat wrote:
I love to watch the right wing of republican party continue to dig the hole deeper. Maine, which voted for Kerry, has a D governor, a D state senate, a D state house, and two D congressmen, has two Republican senators and the right wing of the R party wants to bring one of them down and replace her with a D - beautiful!!! Oh yeah, the idea about running Chandler for senate is a great one. I'm sure he'd do better than 30% this time around - not. :D

Couldn't agree more, EXCEPT I don't want a D taking Susan's place. I am proud that Maine has two MOR Republican senators. On the national scene, it is the only thing we having going for ourselves. They may not be perfect, but who is? Both these ladies represent our state with class. and above all else, that's what is important to me.

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TM...

So "class" trumps truth in your book?

Bobb

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If a candidate makes a campaign promisie to serve X terms and is elected, at least in part, because of that promise - I think the candidate should abide by that promise. Otherwise, every campaign promise becomes suspect. How good is your word? That might not hold true if the candidate mentioned serving X terms in passing somewhere on the campaign trail.

Suppose said candidate breaks that campaign promise and announces a run for Y terms? And suppose the candidate's opponents are all stinkers. It's fair enough if supporters are willing to give the candidate a pass on promising to serve X terms to avoid having to elect a stinker. And maybe the candidate will get re-elected. But breaking a promise will give opponents a campaign issue. Breaking a promise does tarnish the candidate who made the promise.

skf

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Editor wrote:
Otherwise, every campaign promise becomes suspect.

In my book, every campaign promise is already suspect.

Peter
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The fringe ought to find a candidate to run against her in the primary if they feel so strongly about this issue.

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Peter -

That's a separate issue.

skf

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On the WLOB string Ray Richardson said IF the choice is between Collins and Allen, he'd choose Collins. Peter has mentioned that the "fringe" should run someone against Collins in the primary. I hope that happens, Peter. So far the presumption has been that the campaign is between Collins and Allen. I find that dismaying!

Peter
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SKF-
Has your perspective on the impact that AMG has changed since the first day it was launched?

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If the two major party candidates are Collins and Allen, it would be a perfect scenario for a third party candidate to win a plurality of votes. Collins and Allen are two peas in a pod NOW since Collins has become anti-war, anti-Bush. Allen always has been. Other than Supreme Court nomination support (that happens rarely), I suspect they share common positions in just about everything else. They are both incumbents who have strong followings. Allen is extremely popular in the first district. Collins has broad liberal support because she is one. A strong, eloquent conservative candidate could do well, in my opinion.

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Peter -

I don't understand your question. Please rephrase.

skf

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GW,

Has anyone mentioned a run? A third party candidate would have to be awfully well funded to mount a real run.

Collins and Allen will take most of the oxygen in the room

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Editor wrote:
Peter -

I don't understand your question. Please rephrase.

skf

When you started AMG- did you reaize the impact that it does.

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Peter -

What's your real question? If it's, Are elected officals allowed to change their minds? Yes. But that too is a separate issue.

If I run for office and part of my standard campaign appeal to voters is, "Elect me and I will serve two terms only," and I decide to run for three terms -- my decision will come with a price.

skf

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What price would that be in this case? A slightly narrower margin of victory?