Shooting of Black FL Teen Ignites National "Furor", Major Figures Weigh In on Incident!

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Shooting of Black FL Teen Ignites National "Furor", Major Figures Weigh In on Incident!

A 17 yrd old black teenager was shot and killed in a parking lot by a Hispanic man who was the head of the local "block guardian" group, and had a carry permit. A furious uproar, amongst the nations blacks especially, has ensued.

The Supreme "Race-Baiter-In-Chief" Himself:

Rev Jesse Jackson: "BLACKS ARE UNDER ATTACK"

The local police chief has stepped down during the investigation and no arrest has been made. Blacks all over the nation are in an uproar to say the least. Our commander in chief issued his thoughts on it yesterday, along with other prominent figures. The Black Panthers have issued a "Wanted Dead Or Alive" poster for the shooter.

......"President Barack Obama weighed into the controversial killing of a black teenager in Florida in very personal terms on Friday, comparing the boy to a son he doesn't have and calling for American "soul searching" over how the incident occurred".......

......"In Sanford, ., the city's manager, acknowledged that tensions between the black community and police "go back many, many years." "The trust that existed is gone, so we have to start from ground zero," he said. Sanford's police chief and a Florida state prosecutor overseeing the case stepped aside on Thursday as criticism grew over the police handling of the investigation".......

[url=http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/23/us-florida-shooting-obama-idUS... Article[/url]

Louis Farrakhan: ........"‘Where There Is No Justice, There Will Be No Peace…Law of Retaliation May…Be Applied’"........Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan has been among the vocal voices weighing in on calls for justice for Trayvon Martin, an unarmed 17-year-old who was gunned down last month while walking home in Sanford, Florida".......

[url=http://conservativebyte.com/2012/03/farrakhan-tweets-where-there-is-no-j...

John Hindraker of Powerline Blog: ........1) For liberals, it is always 1962, and we are always in Mississippi. Unfortunately, however–from their perspective–it isn’t 1962, and the problems we now face are far more complicated and harder of solution than the problems of the early 1960s. .............So any time something happens that allows liberals to pretend that the 1962 template is operative once again, they rush in. Hence Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan, etc., politicizing the shooting of Mr. Martin; and Barack Obama, too".......

[url=http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/03/thoughts-on-trayvon-martin...

It is a tragedy, in many ways, yet the facts are not yet in and summarized. Attempting to paint this as a 'racist" act seems way overblown. Would the black community be as outraged as they are if the victim had been white? I think not. But one cannot miss an opportunity to make political hay when one comes along. In urban areas very high percentages of crime are committed by young black males, out of proportion to their part of the population. Law enforcement, and civilians in general, have become suspicious of young blacks in high-crime areas, whether we like it or not. 50 yrs of constant redistribution of wealth to large elements of the black community via the "great society" programs and many others, have helped to destroy the black families and black culture in many inner city areas of the nation, the root cause of much of this, and the very thing that allows Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan and others to make political hay out of a tragedy such as this.

Where will it end?

WC

Tom C
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"Never let a good crisis go

"Never let a good crisis go to waste."

This is so transparent, I'm amazed that anyone, outside of the usual lame-stream-media feather-heads are buying it. They media was so disappointed that the shooter was Hispanic, rather than "white", that they now portray him as a "white hispanic". Laughable.

Yes, this was a tragedy, and if Zimmerman is found culpable, he should pay the price.

But as a "narrative" of a larger social problem?

I guess the odds of a black man being shot by a white person turn out to be pretty remote, if this is the example they bring out to tout their stupid social theories. Meanwhile, who has heard of the 13 year-old boy who was doused with gasoline and set ablaze with the taunt: “This is what you deserve. You get what you deserve, white boy.”

Nor is there a peep from Jackson, Sharpton, et al, about the African-American fratracide that is killing hundreds of black teenagers every year.

The people jumping on this bandwagon want people to look at ANYTHING other than the long-running failure of their own policies - whether it be decades of failed liberal social policies, or the disasterous Obama administration, which is likely to go down in history as the worst presidency of all time. The usual rabble-rousers are out there "stirring up the base" - who seem to be people without day-time jobs they are supposed to be at - who can show up at these rallies, especially if they are being paid to do so.

Can you imagine what would happen if hundreds of white people showed up to protest the Allen Coon attack? The media would be having palpatations. But this is what the Democrat party is good at - stirring up the rabble. From the race riots in New York during the civil war, to the Ku Klux Klan, this is the demogogery that is the hallmark of their political power.

Like the Fluke "controversy", this is more manipulation by the failed left to do the only thing they are good at - to complain. That they had to go this far to find something to complain about shows how weak they are.

I just feel sorry for anyone who buys into this "narrative."

Mike G
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in comments section Obama

in comments section

Obama <--- a better dressed Al Sharpton

"I will call for a task force on citizen safety and protection to investigate how to make sure a tragedy such as this does not occur in the future"" FL Governor Scott quote.

Wow Gov so a task force is going to prevent someone from shooting someone else, why didn't they think of that before

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And will the race baiters,

And will the race baiters, including the President be held responsible for any violence that occurs from their fanning the flames of division? And not a peep for the 49 shootings in Chicago over St. Patricks day.

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Hannity played the 911 tape

Hannity played the 911 tape of Zimmerman's call to report a suspicious person in his neighborhood.
The dispatcher told Zimmerman "we don't need you to do that" as in, don't follow the guy.
Zimmerman ignored the 911 dispatcher and followed the young man, muttering, "they always get away."
Meanwhile Trayvon on the phone told his girlfriend some guy was following him.
This sounds very bad for Zimmerman.

And I have to say, it is a crying shame that young black men in America have to be on guard that just walking down the street might provoke some idiot like Zimmerman to 1) call the cops or 2) pull a gun.

No story would be complete without an Occupy angle:
Occupiers Tear Up Wall St In Name Of Trayvon Martin

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......"And I have to say, it

......"And I have to say, it is a crying shame that young black men in America have to be on guard that just walking down the street might provoke some idiot like Zimmerman to 1) call the cops or 2) pull a gun"......

I agree with that, and the same thing applies to the Marine that was killed outside of Camp Pendleton a few weeks back by deputy sherriffs.

But there is a reason for this and here is some information........from the NAACP:

Houston, TX........."Texas taxpayers spent $175 million in 2009 to imprison residents from a small part of Houston – only 10 zip codes out of 75".......

People from neighborhoods that are home to only about 10% of the population of Houston, account for more than 33% of the entire STATES population in prison. This group is overwhelmingly black and poor! (read "welfare citizens").

Philadelphia: .........."taxpayers will spend $290 million in 2009 to imprison residents from just 11 of Philadelphia's neighborhoods, representing about 25% of the city population"..........

On this small urban area alone, the state of PA will spend roughly half of the STATES entire prison budget. This small area is overwhelmingly black and poor!

New York: ........."taxpayers will spend $539 million to imprison residents from only 24 of New York City's 200 different neighborhoods. Only 16% of the city's population lives in these areas".......

Again, this relatively small population will account for almost half of the entire STATES prison budget! And they are overwhelmingly black and poor!

Life in these places is demonstrating a complete collapse of Western civilization. And it is due directly to over 50 years of "Great Society" style welfare and redistribution of wealth schemes by the political class.

[url=http://www.stansberryresearch.com/pub/reports/201112PSI_issue.html]The Corruption of America[/url]

In these places and most inner city areas in the country a young black male on the streets looks suspicious to police and citizens alike for the reasons that I have demonstrated above.

That this is a tragedy beyond words is without question. This is the ultimate destruction of our nation and it is playing out right here in Maine with the rapid rise of drug strore robberies home invasions and the like. There is a vast "underclass" that is preying on the rest of us, and it is the direct creation of progressive thinkers and their "welfare state" ideas.

Good citizens will somehow have to find ways to end this destruction of our culture, and to clean the existing mess up.

It won't be pretty!

WC

Tom C
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I blame the African-American

I blame the African-American supposed "leaders." Who are these people? Who elected Al Sharpton?

Their policies of promoting the welfare state have crippled the African-American community. While other ethnic groups have made great economic advances in American culture, Jewish, Japanese, Chinese, Eastern Indian, the parasitic "leaders" have done everything in their power to assure that millions of African-Americans can never be successful.

African-Americans who have made great accomplishments, and who should be held up as great examples - Colin Powell, Condi Rice, Clarence Thomas, Herman Cain, are instead, scorned by these same people... while obscene gangsta-wannabe rap "artists" are held up to entertain contributors at Obama campaign events.

The Democrat party relies on keeping the naïve and the masses "in their place" - and to turn out like lemmings on election day to vote for more short-term solutions to an increasingly desperate problem. The "leaders" who have been directing them for a generation have a great vested interest in assuring that the rabble continue to follow like little sheep to the slaughter.

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So a white dispatcher urges

So a white dispatcher urges calm and caution when an idiot hispanic ninja-wannabee with a German last name shoots an "ordinary citizen" black teen out for a stroll --- and this budges the race-baiting needle? How?

This one makes my head hurt. So many people looking for complexity in a pretty simple situation.

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Best way to make a bad

Best way to make a bad situation worse

taxfoe
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Zimmerman was attacked by the

Zimmerman was attacked by the kid. It's what the police, while allowing this to be turned into a public relations nightmare, have been saying all along. Apparently there has also been an eye witness, all along.

CCP 1 PUNK 0

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The fact remains, Zimmerman

The fact remains, Zimmerman put himself in harm's way by following the young man during and after his own 911 call, ignoring the advice of the public safety representative. Zimmerman went beyond standing his ground.
Neither guy acted admirably, but no one had to die that day.

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If the Black Panthers have

If the Black Panthers have issued a death threat on the shooter doesn't that make then a terror threat group under the new Patriot Act?

Tom C
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"The guy on the bottom who

"The guy on the bottom who had a red sweater on was yelling to me: 'help, help…and I told him to stop and I was calling 911," he said.

Trayvon Martin was in a hoodie; Zimmerman was in red.

His statements to police were instrumental, because police backed up Zimmerman's claims, saying those screams on the 911 call are those of Zimmerman.

Witness: Martin attacked Zimmerman

Well, we'll see, but if this story holds up, we'll see it drop pretty fast down the "memory hole."

Which is too bad, because it would make a great "teachable moment."

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It is indeed heartening to

It is indeed heartening to see everyone "waiting for the investigation". There is one aspect that has not received much press yet.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&S...

A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

-- and the issue is: "What did Trayvon Martin "reasonably believe" about the armed Hispanic male stalking him?" It is why CHP holders must look to their own conduct leading up to a situation. It is an interesting possibility that this was a case of mutual mistake.

mainemom
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The NBPP says they want

The NBPP says they want Zimmerman taken "ALIVE, not dead or harmed."
Still vigilantism.
Ironic that Zimmerman was practicing vigilantism when this all went down.

Meanwhile, Spike Lee tweeted Zimmerman's address. I wonder why?

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Here's a prime opportunity

Here's a prime opportunity for the esteemed Voices of Moderation to make itself heard---condemning black as well as white vigilantism or rushing to judgement, or even racist incendiaries. I'm waiting, ears a-cocked, to hear from them.

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The New York Post profile of

The New York Post profile of Zimmerman raises questions about the stability of cop wannabes who roam citizen patrols:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/cop_wannabe_on_paranoid_patrol_lfV...

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New York Post profile should,

New York Post profile should, of course, outweigh either the perceptions of eyewitnesses or the physical evidence. It is why our system of justice is best served when the biased editors of newspapers many states removed from the crime scene have the sole and unquestioned power to pass judgment on mere common citizens.

Bah !! Who needs so-called "evidence"?

Tom C
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Sonner (Zimmerman's lawyer)

Sonner (Zimmerman's lawyer) says his client was injured that night and went to the hospital with a broken nose and a serious cut on the back of his head.

Lawyer: Family of Trayvon Martin to pursue civil case

"This is not about self-defense," the Rev. Al Sharpton told a crowd in New York on Saturday.

Hey, Rev! How'd the Tawana Brawley case work out for you?

Hey, Jesse, how'd the scholarship to Crystal Mangum work out? Think you got your money's worth there?

I think our race-baiting friends might have been scammed again.

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Isn't it pretty obvious that

Isn't it pretty obvious that Obama wants to start a race war?

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Some of the commentary on

Some of the commentary on this case is ignant.

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......."Isn't it pretty

......."Isn't it pretty obvious that Obama wants to start a race war?".........To go along with his, and the Dems, "class war" that they have been promoting all winter. But I think they have plenty of help.

......"The new Black Panther Party offered a bounty of $10,000 Saturday for the “capture” of a Florida neighborhood watch captain who killed unarmed teen Trayvon Martin........“An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth,” leader Mikhail Muhammad said after announcing the reward for George Zimmerman at a protest in Sanford, Fla".........

........."Muhammad called on 5,000 black men to mobilize and capture the neighborhood watch volunteer".......“If the government won’t do the job, we’ll do it,” Muhammad said, leading chants that included “freedom or death” and “justice for Trayvon.”.........

What is all of that saying?

[url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/black-panther-rage-10g-capture-... Daily News[/url]

And more!

......"George Zimmerman, a neighbourhood watch volunteer who followed and then shot the unarmed boy, had the bounty publicly placed on his head during a protest in Sanford, the Florida commuter town where Trayvon died"......

......."Asked if he was inciting violence, Mr Muhammad said: "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth." To the sound of cheers from followers, who wore black uniforms".......

[url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/black-panthers-offer-10... people are both ignorant and crazy, a dangerous combination[/url]

Attempting to turn a tragedy into a race war with "wanted dead or alive" bounties on the head(s) of designated scoundrels is not going to solve anything but has great potential to make things a whole lot worse.

WC

Tom C
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Some of the commentary on


Some of the commentary on this case is ignant.

Like what?

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I have a very good friend who

I have a very good friend who is a CPA in Orlando. He reports there is much more to this story than the "facts" we're hearing from Jesse, Al and Barack.

Surprised????

The dead kid attacked the guy, injured him and knocked him to the ground. One thing the press has done to fan the flames is show pictures of the guy when he was 10 or 12... Looking like he just got home from choir practice. The press is NOT showing his Facebook pictures- showing a 6'2" guy in full gangsta gear, flipping off the camera.

But those images don't support the narrative being created by the race pimps.

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The race in this matter

The race in this matter should be minimized if not tossed out of the debate. For years now, in the inner cities across this Nation, there has been a racial conflict between Blacks and Hispanics for territory. This conflict is similar to many other cultural conflicts on the inner cites over the years. The Irish, Italians, Asians, and so on all had to fight there way out of the inner city complex. It shouldn’t take a social science academic to point what Captain Obvious could see.

The rule of law shall prevail and weight the facts. This frenzy of highly charged emotional drama will make it difficult. It always seem we need to have some healing moments after a crisis that has been created. There are some factions in society that will never heal.

The White-Latino inference is directly attributed to the idea of the Latino conforming to the white social order and acting as an enforcer of white values. This is where the confusion begins. There are many respected Black members of our society. I’ve has the privilege of meeting many during my days of Higher Education in Springfield, MA. I didn’t just sit in academia to converse with those on the campus, but ventured out into the heart of the city at times to associate with the many different folks. Blacks are a proud group of people; they have been unjustly misled by false interpretations of conformity. Thus many are still stuck living in the inner city.

The facts of this shooting have been drowned out by noise. However it is still unjust to hunt down an unarmed man and kill him dead. The proper course of action is to get the Police to go after him and report what took place.

The actions of one man should not define the idea of citizens patrolling an area to keep the peace.

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The dead kid attacked the

The dead kid attacked the guy

the kid was being stalked. A confrontation arose and the kid " stood his ground". The guy was getting his ass whipped and consequently shot the kid. Both of them mis-read the signals the other was placing on them.

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"the kid was being stalked. A

"the kid was being stalked. A confrontation arose and the kid " stood his ground". The guy was getting his ass whipped and consequently shot the kid. Both of them mis-read the signals the other was placing on them."

Calvin:

Tell us what you saw that night.

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Truth vs narrative! Isn't it

Truth vs narrative! Isn't it always the case? The narrative from the left is that this was an "unprovoked" racial killing. People like Jackson and Sharpton aren't really concerned about truth. I recently read a Chicago Sun Times article reporting close to 100 gang related homicides in the city this year, SO FAR! One of the more rent killings was of a six year old girl. Anyone see Jackson or Sharpton protesting that little girl's death? Most of those crimes are minority on minority. Where's the outrage?

Here's my take on the law and the events as we believe them to be. Zimmerman is on patrol when he begins to follow the deceased. He contact's 911 as is told to stand down. He ignores the advice and approaches the deceased. At this point he has made an aggresive move without provocation. I don't view his actions as individual from this point on, but as part of a continuing senario which he has placed into motion. What happens next is still unclear, but some type of physical altercation takes place and Zimmerman uses his weapon arguing self-defense. I don't believe "stand your ground" shields Zimmerman from his actions in this case because he chose to provoke a confrontation. I don't believe that was the intent of the law in the first place. Time will tell and as always those wicked "FACTS" will determine the truth. The narrative from the left will be unaffected by the truth as it always is.

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Anyone got a link to the

Anyone got a link to the latter-day Facebook photos, etc?

Even FNC is only showing the choir-boy type photos; you know, the "he was such a good boy" shots.

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Jim Corr, I suspect your

Jim Corr, I suspect your analysis of what and how it went down is probably fairly close to reality. Too bad all the way around.

charlie

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Right now, what we the public

Right now, what we the public have is a bucket of "suspicion". The law:

A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

and

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

Possibly this, too.

One thing I've often noted is that if you actually suffer "serious bodily injury", you have a pretty strong case of self defense, unless you are the perpetrator of the thing in the first place. In Floida, the buzzword is "great bodily harm", and I haven't looked a great deal into that definition.

By the way -- Florida has the "provocation" thing covered..

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