Shooting of Black FL Teen Ignites National "Furor", Major Figures Weigh In on Incident!

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BP-SPM:

1: Correct
2: Correct
3: The judges had originally put down "gangsta", but they accept your answer.

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Al Sharpton is backpeddling on his involvement in the Zimmerman case:

So, Sharpton says, the Trayvon Martin story was never about convicting George Zimmerman, or about some aggravated sense of outrage at the fact that a young black man was killed. It was to hold the justice system accountable for delivering on its promise to all Americans.

Rev. Sharpton Pops Back On Trayvon Coverage Criticism (Video)

A few weeks ago, it was a different story:

If George Zimmerman, the Hispanic neighborhood watchman who admitted shooting Trayvon Martin in February, is not arrested, MSNBC's Al Sharpton says he will call for more civil disobedience and economic sanctions.

Al Sharpton threatens more civil unrest if Trayvon Martin shooter not arrested

Interesting idea of "justice".

One idea how Zimmerman might have gotten the injuries described in the police report, is that Martin may have hit him with one of the many skillets he was carrying:

Are I.T. and skillets a possible threat?

Tom C
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Seconds matter.

This includes a lot of conjecture, but is interesting for its attempt to match up the evidence that has been made public second-by-second:

Butch Moore
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The video seems to raise more questions. IF Martin was already at his father's house, why didn't he go in instead of going back to confront Zimmerman? Why isn't anyone else questioning this?

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Sharpton is illiterate, unable to complete a sentence and a racist. Guess that is a reason PMSNBC has given him a program to use lies and innuendo to raise the anger of blacks all over America.

Tom C
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Why isn't anyone else questioning this?

We're missing information about the minute or two before Martin was shot. It's all conjecture.

Butch Moore
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Tom, has the info from the girlfriend's statements come out that he was at his father's house, or is this just speculation by the maker of the video? If he was, and if the body was found where the video shows it, there certainly seems to be something worth questioning....

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Dee Dee's statements weren't conclusive, I think she said "he say he right near his father's house".

But remember Dee Dee will be a lousy witness for either side.

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UPDATE:

A Florida judge on Friday revoked the bail for George Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin case, saying he had misled the court about his finances, and ordered him to present himself to the court within 48 hours.

Judge revokes bail for George Zimmerman in Trayvon Martin case

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Prosecutor goes after Dershowitz:

State Attorney Angela Corey, the prosecutor in the George Zimmerman case, recently called the Dean of Harvard Law School to complain about my criticism of some of her actions.

She was transferred to the Office of Communications and proceeded to engage in a 40-minute rant,

Prosecutor Threatening to Sue Harvard for My Criticism

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....."Prosecutor goes after Dershowitz".....

Wow! Just freakin Wow" is all I can say to that.

Please don't ask me if I am surprised by all of that. In this nation today, we never know what is coming next!

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Looks like the Zimmerman prosecutor has a reputation for being a loose cannon:

Zimmerman prosecutor has history of going after critics

Our justice system at work.

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From the linked story:

......"D’Alemberte had this to say:........“I cannot imagine a worse choice for a prosecutor to serve in the Sanford case. There is nothing in Angela Corey’s background that suits her for the task, and she cannot command the respect of people who care about justice.”.......

One of the commentors below the story said that he "hoped she stayed on the case as she is Zimmermans ticket to freedom with her stupidity!

I think that also.

WC

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Two things to consider.

1. It was a "material fact" alright. It will be interesting to hear O'Mera's explaination.

2. Some have suggested that the prosecution action was overly-aggressive. For example, if they charged every woman with perjury who lied making a restraining order request in Maine, we wouldn't have enough jails. Some look at this as possible leverage the prosecution is trying to get over Zimmerman to get him to plea.

If the charge is accurate, that she knowingly hid this from the court, when she knew it should have been disclosed, and conspired with her husband to do that, I think it would at least be fair to revoke the original bail. That's some "ifs" that we need to determine, though.

Update:

The CNN transcript above appears to be incomplete. I need to confirm this, but I understand that the original hearing included the following exchange between O'Mera and Mrs. Zimmerman:

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Q: How much money is in that website right now? How much money as a result of that website was —

A: Currently, I do not know.

Q: Who would know that?

A: That would be my brother-in-law.

Q: And is he — I know he’s not in the same room as you, but is he available so we can speak to him, too, or the Court can inquire through the State or the Defense?

A: I’m sure that we could probably get him on the phone.

Q: Okay. So he’s not there now.

A: No, he is not, sir.

Q: Do you have any estimate as to how much money has already been obtained or collected?

A: I do not.

Apparently, this part of the exchange was not included in the affidavit for the perjury charge, either, however, there were substantial money transfers between Mrs. Zimmerman and the paypal account. But the existance of the account was brought up, and the prosecution could have asked for more details about it. "Currently I do not know" is a perfectly good answer.

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It wouldn't be the first time a news agency edited out something favorable to Zimmerman.

Tom C
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This boggles the mind:

Another batch of evidence was delivered to the defense in the George Zimmerman murder trial, including records that show up to 10 FBI agents probed the case interviewing local gun dealers.

FBI queried gun dealers in Zimmerman case

10 agents? What does this have to do with whether Zimmerman was getting his head pounded against the pavement when he shot Martin? And crucifing anyone else they can?

Who could claim, at this point, it's "just the government doing its job"?

It sure seems to me that our government seems intent on crucifing a guy who dared defend himself. Also, gosh, if this is what 10 agents were on this, do you think maybe we have too many FBI agents if this is what they are doing?

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....."It sure seems to me that our government seems intent on crucifing a guy who dared defend himself".......

I remember how, after the Clintons were elected for the first time, that the IRS decided to go over the NRA's tax situation. Government can be a really evil thing when those connected to it can use it to turn the dogs loose on the ........"hated one"....!

Just the latest example. They will not rest until the Zimmerman lynching is complete.

On the other hand, if they weren't working on this, they might be investigating Eric Holder and his "fast and furious" gun sales to Mexican hoodlums disaster!

Mr Zimmerman is clearly the wrong color these days.

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This excessive involvement of the Federal government into this racially charged case...thanks to Al Sharpton, Spike Lee, Jesse Jackson and a biased and dishonest MSM...is just a sample of what's going to happen if Obama is safely elected again.

The Obama regime will be going after the Stand Your Ground laws in various States which allows law abiding citizens to defend their person against attack outside of their homes, and they'll also try to reverse the Castle Doctrine (the idea that a man's home is his castle and he has a right to protect his and his family's lives from unwanted invaders and criminals).

This perversion of the use of government is what the late journalist and commentator Sam Francis labeled "Anarcho-Tyranny". Government refuses or is longer capable of protecting your rights as a citizen but it passes bad laws which create choas and anarchy in society, underminding respect for the law and endangering the life and property of law-abiding citizens.

Obama had no hesitation about intervening into this local/state criminal issue...Martin looked like his imaginary son. I wonder if Romney has the stones to say anything about it. If Romney's recent non-response to Obama's flagrant disregard of the law and the Separation of Powers doctrine of the US Constitution between the Executive (the President) and Congress seen in Obama's "executive order" announcement Friday not to enforce the law on illegal immigration, thus granting administrative Amnesty to hundreds of thousands of illegal invaders (and future Democrat voters) is any indication, probably not.

If Romney does not find his voice soon on Obama's "catch, release, and vote" Amnesty fiat (who needs any stinkin' Congress anyway) Mitt will be toast in the 2012 election. He had better make up his mind: gain the approval of Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) and the "Hispanic community" ( John McCain's losing strategy in 2008) or win a close election victory in 2012 by standing with the majority of the American people and against illegal invaders of our country who are taking our jobs, committing crimes, and gobbling up our welfare dollars for schools, hospitals, and jails.

Tough choice, but that's what tough, smart men are known for doing in a tough fight. Can Mitt stand up to the GOP's "cheap labor" business lobby and against the cheap charges of "racism" from the Sussman-Obama liberal media and show that he has the Right Stuff? We'll know soon enough. Maybe the word, "impeachment" should start crossing a few GOP lips, including Romney's, to show they are serious about the rule of law and winning elections.

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I can't help feeling that if he'd been a "black Hispanic" instead of a "white Hispanic" we'd never have heard of this.

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I can't help feeling that if he'd been a black Hispanic and Trevor Martin had been white, the tone of this thread would be entirely different. By testifying that he was indigent, Zimmerman has shown himself to be a liar, which means his account of what happened could be entirely false. Too bad Martin can't tell his side of the story, but Zimmerman made sure that couldn't happen.

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I can't help feeling that if he'd been a black Hispanic and Trevor Martin had been white, the tone of this thread would be entirely different.

Heck, if that were the case there wouldn't be a thread.

Neither would this likely be a national news story.

Just sayin'.

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Tom:

As to the reported exchange and "I don't know", I agree that, where others have access to the account and can get into it, Zimmerman wouldn't be in a good position to "know" how much is in it "right now" while he's incarcerated. The other interesting bit is the "estimate". I know for SURE who would know -- the branch manager of the bank holding the account.

Finally -- "how much of that money was . . . "

Completing the sentence would make a hell of a lot of difference.

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The Washington Post wants to know - who is supporting George Zimmerman?

And that question is: Who are George Zimmerman’s supporters?

George Zimmerman calls show he has support -- but from whom?

That sends a chill up my spine.

A Washington Post columnist reacts to a part of the jailhouse tapes where Zimmerman tells his wife he'll wear a hoodie when they drive around to keep people from recognizing him:

Words cannot even express how disgusting this is. An unarmed Trayvon was wearing a hoodie when he was shot and killed by Zimmerman on Feb. 26. That the neighborhood watch volunteer could even say “hoodie” is beyond callous.

George Zimmerman’s callous ‘hoodie’ comment

Oh, brother.

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Oh brother is right. Listen to the tapes. Zimmerman and his wife deliberately misrepresented how much money was pooring in for his defense. A white guy stalks and kills a black guy and thousands of dollars are donated for his defense? What is this, 1962?

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A white guy stalks and kills a black guy

Not only that, he beat the snot outta' the black guy's knuckles with the BACK of his head!

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......"Not only that, he beat the snot outta' the black guy's knuckles with the BACK of his head!".......

Oh, good one! LMAO! Gotta get a straw to drink my cranberry juice with......as I can't put it to my lips while laughing.

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Not only that, he beat the snot outta' the black guy's knuckles with the BACK of his head!

OMG TJC, that was FUNNY! Darned good thing I wasn't drinking coffee at the time, that's all I can say.

Reminds me of an exchange from a movie, Mystery Men:

"Mr. Furious: [talking about Carmine the Bowler] Seems there was a little controversy there regarding your father's death.

The Bowler: Yes, the police said he fell down an elevator shaft. Onto some bullets.

The Blue Raja: You know, I've alwas suspected a bit of foul play there."